[Trade] Canucks trade Bo Horvat to Islanders for Anthony Beauvillier, Aatu Raty, 2023 1st-round draft pick

[Ted Lasso]

As a leader he was stoic. As a teammate, he was permissive of cheapshots. 
 

 

3 hours ago, Boudrias said:

I have to admit I am getting antsy to see Hronek play at least 10 games before the season ends. If he can anchor the 2nd pairing then we really have something. Meyers is likely gone. Can Hronek stabilize OEL’s game is likely the question to ask. Is there a LD in the works that can take the 2 LD away from OEL ?
 

IMO Hughes has moved past the thought that he needs a partner to back his d side game. Each season his overall game gets better. What I am trying to say is that if Livingstone signed with Vancouver Hughes could be the vet that helps him establish his NHL game. 

Agreed - Hughes’ defensive abilities keep getting better. He uses his speed to catch up and defuse breakaways when they occur.  
 

He also seems to make any partner look good. Juulsen, for example, hasn’t looked out of place.

Edited March 20, 2023 by Kenny Powers

[garthsbutcher]

I cant imagine anyone misses NO SHOW BO at this point

[Elias Pettersson]

37 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said:

Bo was a class act, and good player. While I agree we don’t need to shit on him, we don’t need to romanticize him either.

 

The critiques of him as a captain are valid, as are the valuations on his contributions vs salary expectations.

 

 

Great points as always Kenny. Pointing out that Horvat has zero goals in his last 8 games isn’t sh*tting on a player, it’s stating factual information. That’s how it works as a fan. We still talk about Bure and Linden 30 years later, the Sedins 10 years later, but somehow Horvat is off limits. 
 

Nobody ever said he was a bad player or a sh*tty captain. But to suggest he had zero fault or influence in our 8 years of hell under Benning is disingenuous. Management takes alot of the blame but the players have to take some of that blame as well. Including the captain of the team. 
 

As you pointed out, the critiques of his captaincy are fair game and his contributions versus what his contract expectations were are fair game as well. 

[SilentSam]

25 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said:

As a leader he was stoic. As a teammate, he was permissive of cheapshots. 
 

As a 

Agreed - Hughes’ defensive abilities keep getting better. He uses his speed to catch up and defuse breakaways when they occur.  
 

He also seems to make any partner look good. Juulsen, for example, hasn’t looked out of place.

I’m seeing shades of Aaron Rome in Juulz, steps up quickly to shutdown or force a mistake by opposition. Like his aggression, and very Heavy Shot.

 

[SilentSam]

2 hours ago, SilentSam said:

I’m seeing shades of Aaron Rome in Juulz, steps up quickly to shutdown or force a mistake by opposition. Like his aggression, and very Heavy Shot.

 

..   oh shit..   

 

   we have a clone farm ???

 

tell me I’m wrong  

 

 

 
Butcher.

 

 

 

Juulsen  

[Toews]

17 hours ago, Kenny Powers said:

That really bugged you, hey?

 

You’re so frothy that you’re writing another romance novel about Bo, instead of watching the game.
 

Sorry, I couldn’t get through your last post. Too long, too repetitive and too illogical. You’re all over the ice.

 

 

Romance novel was @SilentSam's line, lets go for a little more originality here.

 

Again the one frothing at the mouth is you as you come up increasingly stupid takes like Bo wasn't trying hard or my personal favourite, Bo is big and Canadian, therefore he has to hit and fight or he is "spineless". That logic doesn't apply to the Henrik, Naslund or Pettersson, who will be our next captain. You need to get over the hurt feelings, its time to move on. 

Edited March 20, 2023 by Toews

[Ted Lasso]

2 hours ago, SilentSam said:

I’m seeing shades of Aaron Rome in Juulz, steps up quickly to shutdown or force a mistake by opposition. Like his aggression, and very Heavy Shot.

 

Great comparison

[Ted Lasso]

23 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

..   oh shit..   

 

   we have a clone farm ???

 

tell me I’m wrong  

 

 

 
Butcher.

 

 

 

Juulsen  

Hahaha, you’re not wrong

[Ted Lasso]

10 minutes ago, Toews said:

Romance novel was @SilentSam's line, lets go for a little more originality here.

 

Again the one frothing at the mouth is you as you come up increasingly stupid takes like Bo wasn't trying hard or my personal favourite, Bo is big and Canadian, therefore he has to hit and fight or he is "spineless". That logic doesn't apply to the Henrik, Naslund or Pettersson, who will be our next captain. You need to get over the hurt feelings, its time to move on. 

 

This post is the equivalent of ‘No I’m not, YOU are!’

 

Having higher expectations for a 215 lb Canadian to be physical, and stand up for his teammates (vs a 180 lb Swede) is pretty reasonable. Especially as the Captain, who leads by example.

 

Sorry you’re having trouble getting that it’s not logically inconsistent. 

 

 

[Canucks Curse]

bo at 8.5 x 8 gross, I thin kobo is great 

[SilentSam]

2 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said:

bo at 8.5 x 8 gross, I thin kobo is great 

We needed the French Canadien version of “Beau” all along !!! Lol 

 

Perhaps we get a first rounder for him from the Habs in a couple of years !!!!

[Timråfan]

1 hour ago, SilentSam said:

..   oh shit..   

 

   we have a clone farm ???

 

tell me I’m wrong  

 

 

 
Butcher.

 

 

 

Juulsen  

Kravtsov is a replica also

[MeanSeanBean]

4 hours ago, garthsbutcher said:

I cant imagine anyone misses NO SHOW BO at this point

I miss Bo. I'm glad we traded him, but doesn't mean he wasn't one of the teams heart and soul players. Only 13 people have had the chance to wear a C for my favorite time, and I respect all of them, even if I wasn't around at the start.

 

[Slegr]

Trading Bo was one of the best moves this season. There is no way he deserves the contract he signed. He was a solid enough player, but not offensively gifted or consistent enough to be paid like he has. Good for him for cashing in though. 
I honestly haven’t missed him one bit. I think the team is playing better without him. That’s perhaps largely because of the better defensive system and hotter goaltending, but he isn’t the difference maker some imagine him to be. 

[ilduce39]

Moving Bo makes sense when Miller is playing like an elite 2C.  Will look even better if we find a shutdown 3C to support Petey and JT.

 

There’s still a potential issue with Miller’s age vs the age of the rest of our core.  But in the short term Bo and Miller were almost redundant as high offensive 2Cs - but neither excelling in a matchup role.

[iinatcc]

Wow people are so quick to trash Bo Horvat after he leaves the team 

 

 

[SilentSam]

26 minutes ago, ilduce39 said:

Moving Bo makes sense when Miller is playing like an elite 2C.  Will look even better if we find a shutdown 3C to support Petey and JT.

 

There’s still a potential issue with Miller’s age vs the age of the rest of our core.  But in the short term Bo and Miller were almost redundant as high offensive 2Cs - but neither excelling in a matchup role.

I think Miller isn’t going to be affected too much by his age..  the motivation he plays with is rubbing off on the entire team,  when everyone is motivated, engaged, and playing tenaciously ,  it’s that motivation that reciprocates back to you as a player.

 

He might even start finding those seams in the game to play between that opens up more opportunities.

 

Seeing these other young men now responding and playing at a new level , can be inspirational, and intimidating enough for him to keep himself in great form for years.

We will get at least 3-4 great years out of Miller,   Even if he drops off a bit,  he will be a conduit on the team to change a game when necessary,  that’s a unique skill in itself.

 

Timming , and determined to upset the balance of a game when it’s the straw to be pulled.

 

I’m loving this team and the cast we are assembling 

[SilentSam]

2 minutes ago, iinatcc said:

Wow people are so quick to trash Bo Horvat after he leaves the team 

 

 

Nobody was trashing,  I was calling him out 2 years ago.

 

He gone , it’s great now,  better than ever .

[Ted Lasso]

40 minutes ago, ilduce39 said:

Moving Bo makes sense when Miller is playing like an elite 2C.  Will look even better if we find a shutdown 3C to support Petey and JT.

 

There’s still a potential issue with Miller’s age vs the age of the rest of our core.  But in the short term Bo and Miller were almost redundant as high offensive 2Cs - but neither excelling in a matchup role.

PDG - Miller - Boeser has been used in matchups lately, and seems to be limiting other teams’ top lines. Wonder if that’s an experiment, or just a placeholder until we can acquire a shutdown 3C. 

[SilentSam]

1 hour ago, Timråfan said:

Kravtsov is a replica also

Compared to whom Timra?