Popular Post 4petesake Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said: Again. It's not about them missing out on the chance to draft Bedard. It's the fact they decide to keep trading picks when they are at the bottom of the league and they don't have a strong farm system. It is not sustainable to keep trading their picks and think they can be a top team long term. I just think they have and are neglecting the long term sustainability of this franchise to win now which has up to this point not worked. I guess keep trying until it works. I think I am just angry with Aquilini and his greed for making the playoffs and not building a contender or a sustainable contender. It just wreaks of lazy, fast tracking that has hurt this franchise. You can’t argue about the lack of success over the last ten years but this management group don’t own those failures. We’ll see if they’re any better but I get why people get the déjà vu jitters in the meantime. You refer to Aquilini and his greed for playoff money and I think it was @DeNiro that made similar comments earlier. How do you explain that he has spent pretty much to the salary cap limits (and over) for this entire period while only getting gate receipts for maybe 6 or 7 home games in that time? Currently paying salaries for 3 head coaches as well. Like him or hate him for his approach or his business life but I’m not buying the “playoff greed” angle. He may not be doing it right but greed it ain’t. 1 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckfanforlife82 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: Sure. Those kinds of guys (like Miller) are not easy to get. But to me the key core is the five guys listed. Goalie. #1C. #2C. #1D#2D. A big, tough, scoring winger could be considered a key core piece too. I accept that. I just like it because I think there needs to be a bit more toughness to our top 9. I miss Bertuzzi in his prime. Maybe Josh Anderson. Edited March 9, 2023 by Canuckfanforlife82 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Just now, AlwaysACanuckFan said: Supposedly it's supposed to be a deep draft up until 15th spot so other than the top 5 is there a big difference in skill level between 7 and 15? The draft was deep when the Rangers drafted Hugh Jessiman too. Duds can happen in deep drafts too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roger Neilsons Towel Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2023 Just now, canuck73_3 said: He then added the supporting cast, final piece of the core is not the final piece of the team. And objectively he’s kinda not wrong. Yeah he added that. Just seems like we’re cherry picking reasons to jump on eachother now. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: Which is part of why Bo got moved for Beau and Hronek eventually and more moves will happen in the offseason. The core has already greatly shifted. I dunno I am skeptical if all the team needed was another d-man and forward to help the core then OEL + Garland would have been a slam dunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, YearoftheNuck said: I honestly just ran the simulator one time and the 10th and 11th place teams won lol! So basically we gotta climb higher to get a shot 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Just now, Roger Neilsons Towel said: Yeah he added that. Just seems like we’re cherry picking reasons to jump on eachother now. Wasn’t meant that way but I get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Just now, iinatcc said: I dunno I am skeptical if all the team needed was another d-man and forward to help the core then OEL + Garland would have been a slam dunk. More is coming, it didn’t stop at Hronek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said: I just like it because I think there needs to be a bit more toughness to our top 9. I miss Bertuzzi in his prime. Maybe Josh Anderson. Yup. Love to be heavier and harder to play against on the Wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: Supposedly it's supposed to be a deep draft up until 15th spot so other than the top 5 is there a big difference in skill level between 7 and 15? I believe Craig Button said on Donnie and Dhali a couple weeks ago that after the top 5 the middle of the draft gets pretty muddy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ey40 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Mando27 said: I mean I'm glad the team seems to be playing well, but we have seen this song and dance many times before. Time will tell if they can carry it over to next season. This is the same thing that worries me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 minute ago, ey40 said: This is the same thing that worries me. I get the concern but I think more moves are coming, this team will look very different next fall. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YearoftheNuck Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said: I believe Craig Button said on Donnie and Dhali a couple weeks ago that after the top 5 the middle of the draft gets pretty muddy. Yeah there really seems to be. There’s a ton of variance, with some experts ranking Dvorsky at 3, whereas another has him at 19. And some are very high on Sale, placing him in the 4 spot, and another has him at 17. There’s a lot of instances of this too. With so many good players, and undoubtedly some busts sprinkled in amongst the gems, we’re really going to need our scouts to bring their A game with this pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, 4petesake said: “Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to know the difference.” Enjoy the wins, take satisfaction and solace in the losses. Everything else is out of our hands. Amen! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) Look the times when the Canucks were real contenders... what were those teams' rosters: '94 107 point, 60 goal game breaking Superstar in Bure Three other players all over 60 points, and over 25 goals... including Linden with 32 goals. Solid D Corps Very underrated goalie in McClean, Vezina finalist twice and multi year NHL Allstar 2011 A 41 goal, 104 point Daniel and a 94 point Henrik Sedin... both Superstars and Art Ross winners... Henrik Hart trophy the year before. A 41 goal 71 point Ryan Kesler... Selke winner and 8th place in Hart balloting. Alex Burrows at 26 goals and a Selke consideration. Three other forwards with 14 or more goals... including some very physical players. The most mobile D in the league... with a pre-injury Alex Edler as main stay.... including Christian Erhoff on D with 14 goals and 50 points... this not even including the very highly skilled Sami Salo who was injured most of the season. The best overall goaltending tandem in the league with Luongo and Schneider... Luongo 3 time Vezina winner. What does this team have: A potential 100 point center in Pettersson A declining potential 75 point center in Miller, D skills questionable. A potential 75 point winger in Kuzmenko, D skills questionable. Young developing forward group with some bright lights, Podkolzin, Mikheyev. Overpriced remainder of forwards... Boeser etc. A potential 80 point offensive D man in Hughes... small D. Garbage remainder of D group... all would be 5/6's on good teams. A team representative to the allstar game in goal in Demko, a couple mediocre backups in Delia and Martin and a potential future starter in Silovs. CAP problems The difference is obvious. This team needs more building blocks... it needs new players who have the special abilities which it takes to get to the finals. This is especially the case with the D... we need at least another two high quality top four defensemen. This is why those of us who see the meaningless wins late in the season and wonder why may be justified in thinking so. Edited March 9, 2023 by *Buzzsaw* 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyfan-observer Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Great to see them winning again though was a bit dicey at times - they need to keep it going - try even harder so that they can get into the top 20 and show improvement to their loyal fans - If they can someone gain another net 10+ points on some teams in the remaining games, they will be out of these lottery sweepstakes - this indicates they are not too far off the playoff bar like some other teams and gives hope to the season ticket holders.heading into next season. Next game vs OTT will be tough so Demko will probably start - also need to play Petey and Huggy extra minutes if we are to win and finally overtake some of these teams we have been chasing for a while. Will be an interesting weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 38 minutes ago, BPA said: If Canucks win all their remaining 18 games, they will end up with 95pts. I wonder if that would be enough to catch a wild card spot. Anything can happen! 3 minutes ago, *Buzzsaw* said: Look the times when the Canucks were real contenders... what were those teams' rosters: '94 107 point, 60 goal game breaking Superstar in Bure Three other players all over 60 points, and over 25 goals... including Linden with 32 goals. Solid D Corps Very underrated goalie in McClean, Vezina finalist twice and multi year NHL Allstar 2011 A 41 goal, 104 point Daniel and a 94 point Henrik Sedin... both Superstars and Art Ross winners A 41 goal 71 point Ryan Kesler... Selke winner and 8th place in Hart balloting. Alex Burrows at 26 goals and a Selke consideration. Three other forwards with 14 or more goals... including some very physical players. The most mobile D in the league... with a pre-injury Alex Edler as main stay.... including Christian Erhoff on D with 14 goals and 50 points... this not even including the very highly skilled Sami Salo who was injured most of the season. The best overall goaltending tandem in the league with Luongo and Schneider... Luongo 3 time Vezina winner. What does this team have: A potential 100 point center in Pettersson A declining potential 75 point center in Miller, D skills questionable. A potential 75 point winger in Kuzmenko, D skills questionable. Young developing forward group with some bright lights, Podkolzin, Mikheyev. Overpriced remainder of forwards... Boeser etc. A potential 80 point offensive D man in Hughes... small D. Garbage remainder of D group A team representative to the allstar game in goal in Demko, a couple mediocre backups in Delia and Martin and a potential future starter in Silovs. CAP problems The difference is obvious. This team needs more building blocks... it needs new players who have the special abilities which it takes to get to the finals. This is especially the case with the D... we need at least another two high quality top four defensemen. This is why those of us who see the meaningless wins late in the season and wonder why may be justified in thinking so. See above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: That was a frickin' awesome interview. A motivated JT is what this team needs to win. When he's playing a high-effort straightforward game and not giving up on plays and trying risky blind passes he's a force and I think Tocchet is getting the best out of him. I hope it keeps up. If it does his contract is a bargain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 43 minutes ago, Westcoasting said: Hey Bozo players get injured no matter what the minutes they play. Players get injured more often when they are overplayed and tired. Happens in the playoffs every year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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