Is There Anything We Can Do to Bring About a Change in Ownership?

[Seannnp]

Just called my bank and unfortunately they said right now is not the best time for me financially to buy the team as it would over extend me a little bit. 

 

Now can anyone lend $6 for my hemorrhoid medication? - my accountant said this would over extend me as well. 

[Seannnp]

11 hours ago, RU SERIOUS said:

There is a possible solution but that would take a concerted effort by Canucks nation and the people of BC to demonstrate, hang banners, shame him and protest loudly - en masse - to rid this team of Aqua-lini. To get this to happen we'd need even more terrible years of failure - enough to provoke and pi$$-off even the most patient & reasonable fans to Rise-up and yell "Enough is Enough" and disgrace Aqua-lini publicly by the thousands - as an incompetent idiot that has meddled and mismanaged this team into the sewer. 

 

We all know he is the root of all Canucks problems so until he goes - nothing will ever change.

dont think that would be enough. if my team is worth 3 billion, you could start burning ppl at the stake and I still wouldnt sell LOL. A protest by a few thousand ppl isnt going to convince me to sell a money printing machine. 

[erkayloomeh]

Is he really that bad of an owner ? 

[Heretic]

Why do so many blame Owners or Management all the time?

It's not really even the players - it's the agents who have inflated player's salaries.

Based on performance, our team is NOT worth the money the owners have paid them.  

Of course the owners want their teams to make the playoffs every year - that's gravy for them.  
  

[CR7]

This post was about as thought out as Ownerships direction with the team...

 

If you don't like what's happening and cannot afford to buy the team, may I suggest Arizona, I hear they are always looking for fans. They'll never get your hopes up either, you'll always know they plan to be a bottom feeder

[TFerguson]

12 hours ago, RU SERIOUS said:

There is a possible solution but that would take a concerted effort by Canucks nation and the people of BC to demonstrate, hang banners, shame him and protest loudly - en masse - to rid this team of Aqua-lini. To get this to happen we'd need even more terrible years of failure - enough to provoke and pi$$-off even the most patient & reasonable fans to Rise-up and yell "Enough is Enough" and disgrace Aqua-lini publicly by the thousands - as an incompetent idiot that has meddled and mismanaged this team into the sewer. 

 

We all know he is the root of all Canucks problems so until he goes - nothing will ever change.

I wish we had a fan base unified on this and actually tried to apply some pressure where we could without withdrawing support from the team. Based on this discussion it seems like plenty of people, even on these boards, still support ownership and/or have no desire for change in that area. That surprises me but I get that it’s a situation beyond the scope of what we can do anything about realistically 

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, TFerguson said:

I wish we had a fan base unified on this and actually tried to apply some pressure where we could without withdrawing support from the team. Based on this discussion it seems like plenty of people, even on these boards, still support ownership and/or have no desire for change in that area. That surprises me but I get that it’s a situation beyond the scope of what we can do anything about realistically 

We have a good owner for money stuff. He just needs to keep his snout out of hockey ops. And after the whole Boudreau issues this past year I think he might have leaned his lesson. We might see him actually listing to management, instead of directing them. We might see an OEL buyout! How awesome would that be? 

[TFerguson]

12 hours ago, Dr. Crossbar said:

You know ... I grew up in a city without an NHL team. It really sucked. When I moved to Vancouver, that same year I got swept up in the 94 run to the Cup and was like, wow, THIS is what it's like to live in an NHL city. It was magical.

 

Not long after that, I also remember what it was like to experience the down years and the very REAL reality that ownership wanted to sell the team and the very REAL possibility that the team could be moved. It was a horrible thought at the time and still is to me now.

 

Thankfully the team didn't move after a change in ownership and fans are fortunate to still have an NHL team here. It would have been really tough watching a city ... say Memphis ... going on that 2011 run rather than Vancouver. That would have been equally as tough as watching the Bruins win like they did. 

 

Sorry, but I'll take this ownership and their approach, also their commitment to the team, than having to face the team leaving town and watching the "moved" team hoist the Cup. Imagine how Nordiques fans felt watching the Avalanche the year after they moved.

 

Be careful what you wish for. 

 

We do finally have a bright, effective management and coaching staff with a pedigree of winning.

 

Is there anything we can do to stop these posts?

 

12 hours ago, Devron said:

It’s like playing with fire. I’m good. I’m hopeful with what’s going on right now. Allvin and Co seem to be doing a fine job within the parameters of ownership

 

5 hours ago, -DLC- said:

Thanks for quoting that....hadn't read that post/the thread.

 

Funny someone else got the "be careful what you wish for"...yep. It isn't a given that everything will just be awesome...it's a very real risk. Stuff's expensive here and new owners may not find any attachment to Vancouver.

 

+10 is right!

 

1 hour ago, erkayloomeh said:

Is he really that bad of an owner ? 

 

1 hour ago, Heretic said:

Why do so many blame Owners or Management all the time?

It's not really even the players - it's the agents who have inflated player's salaries.

Based on performance, our team is NOT worth the money the owners have paid them.  

Of course the owners want their teams to make the playoffs every year - that's gravy for them.  
  

 

59 minutes ago, CR7 said:

This post was about as thought out as Ownerships direction with the team...

 

If you don't like what's happening and cannot afford to buy the team, may I suggest Arizona, I hear they are always looking for fans. They'll never get your hopes up either, you'll always know they plan to be a bottom feeder

I’m surprised by the support ownership still has on this board. 
 

I agree with those who’ve said winning will change everything. That’s what I’m hoping for. 

[TFerguson]

5 hours ago, -DLC- said:

Not really true:

 

Since 2011:

 

Remember....this fanbase doesn't consider "getting in" or losing in the first couple of rounds contending.

 

Be careful what you wish for...new owners could mean new city. 

 

Also, for this part:

A full reno of the arena and a new practice facility will turn things around?

 

Also....owners hire people to do the job of building a contender through drafting and development. And I feel that our impatience as fans (some of whom jump ship) is showing. They ARE making changes to management and coaching staff...let's see how that plays out. 

 

"Since 2011" there have been different personnel in place and you can't pin past failures on this group (entirely).

You’re crazy if you think winning the Stanley Cup in 2011 and then being back to the cup FINALS twice since then and this year being the most dominant team in the NHL through the regular season by a wide margin doesn’t qualify them as consistent contenders. 
 

If that were the Canucks record we absolutely would consider ourselves contenders every year whether we got kicked out early or not 

 

[TFerguson]

11 minutes ago, Alflives said:

We have a good owner for money stuff. He just needs to keep his snout out of hockey ops. And after the whole Boudreau issues this past year I think he might have leaned his lesson. We might see him actually listing to management, instead of directing them. We might see an OEL buyout! How awesome would that be? 

I like the positivity and I used to agree about the Aqulinis being good with "the money stuff" but then how do we explain being the last team without a practice facility, which likely, comes down to the family refusing to make that investment in the team or wanting more from the city to do it. Rogers is also quickly becoming one of the most outdated rinks across the league and I would love to see a large infusion of cash there too. 

[nuckin_futz]

13 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

You're a day trader.  You probably have at least $50k sitting in your chequing account.  Don't be so cheap...

Guy's gotta have a little mad money kicking around.

 

[McBackup]

2 hours ago, HKSR said:

Ok... I thought about it... we can do this!

 

We have 99,397 members on here.  If we all chip in $15,091, we'd have the $1,500,000,000 we need!

 

Alternatively, if we just get the active 5,563 members to chip in $269,638.68, we can also hit the $1,500,000,000!

 

WHAT SAY YOU!?!

 

 

I’ll chip in 15,091 and one cent so I can control the uniforms and end the miserable endless debate.

[BureBurrito]

Only a complete tanking of their valued assets (to sell). Otherwise. 

 

No.

[BureBurrito]

2 hours ago, erkayloomeh said:

Is he really that bad of an owner ? 

you ask that after the last decade of futility, mismanagement and meddling?

[stawns]

Nope

[stawns]

1 minute ago, BureBurrito said:

you ask that after the last decade of futility, mismanagement and meddling?

Imagine, a boss who wants input on the business he puts hundreds of millions of dollars into.  The gall of some people

[Heretic]

1 hour ago, TFerguson said:

 

 

 

 

 

I’m surprised by the support ownership still has on this board. 
 

I agree with those who’ve said winning will change everything. That’s what I’m hoping for. 

I never said I "support" them - I just don't blame them.  

[Baggins]

2 hours ago, erkayloomeh said:

Is he really that bad of an owner ? 

Everybody seemed to love him when the team was winning. You know, when he spent money without a second thought. Like upgrading the workout and dressing rooms, a chamber to speed up injury recovery, a sports psycologist, sleep, doctor, nutritionist. Burying one way contracts in the minors, buying out contracts, and even green lighting cap circumvention (Luongo) that put team salary above the cap limit. He still seems to spend money without a thought. Spending to the cap, buyouts, sending one way contracts to the AHL. That gets ignored and he's called cheap for wanting to make the playoffs. I don't think he "interferes" nearly as much as some like to claim. The real issue is he didn't green light what some fans wanted - a full on tanking of the team. When a team isn't winning fans need somebody to point fingers at.

[Dr. Crossbar]

5 minutes ago, Baggins said:

Everybody seemed to love him when the team was winning. You know, when he spent money without a second thought. Like upgrading the workout and dressing rooms, a chamber to speed up injury recovery, a sports psycologist, sleep, doctor, nutritionist. Burying one way contracts in the minors, buying out contracts, and even green lighting cap circumvention (Luongo) that put team salary above the cap limit. He still seems to spend money without a thought. Spending to the cap, buyouts, sending one way contracts to the AHL. That gets ignored and he's called cheap for wanting to make the playoffs. I don't think he "interferes" nearly as much as some like to claim. The real issue is he didn't green light what some fans wanted - a full on tanking of the team. When a team isn't winning fans need somebody to point fingers at.

Bingo! Excellent post! Nailed it! 

[TFerguson]

1 hour ago, Heretic said:

I never said I "support" them - I just don't blame them.  

Fair enough