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#61 oldnews

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:26 AM

He's an anomaly. Had a single point and was -29 in 55 games last season with the Isles.
Was a 19 year old who had 46% offensive zone starts...? What's the point of bringing up a player like him and playing him as a 3rd/4th line tweener with Jay Pandolfo and Tim Wallace....? Odd.
Throw him this way.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:26 AM

silly reasons to want out. WTF is wrong with him? dont go near this guy Gillis. Another Cody Hodsgson in the making.


The difference is that Cody was in a good Organization, where all the players are respectful of the hierarchy. Where Nino is in an organization that is Bat S$%t Crazy.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:33 AM

I don't understand, how could you be drafted at 5, play 64 games and accumulate just 3 points? Where would we put someone like that?

We are having enough trouble scoring at present without taking on ANOTHER project.

The thought of giving up someone like Lu in the deal would haunt us forever.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 05:23 AM

I think the point (remembering the formula of a roster player who helps us, a prospect, and a pick) is that Ninno is the prospect in the equation. Someone who helps us in the future. We would give him time to develop!

We also would require an able bodied roster player...



I don't understand, how could you be drafted at 5, play 64 games and accumulate just 3 points? Where would we put someone like that?

We are having enough trouble scoring at present without taking on ANOTHER project.

The thought of giving up someone like Lu in the deal would haunt us forever.


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:57 AM

We also would require an able bodied roster player...


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Wow I can't believe peoples replies...
Im done here. You people are disgusting..


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:00 AM

I don't understand, how could you be drafted at 5, play 64 games and accumulate just 3 points? Where would we put someone like that?

We are having enough trouble scoring at present without taking on ANOTHER project.

The thought of giving up someone like Lu in the deal would haunt us forever.


It's called being rushed and put in a bad situation.

I know you just started watching hockey, but do you know who Joe Thornton is? In his rookie year he had 7 points in 55 games. He turned out to be a good player. Nino has had good stats in the AHL and deserves another shot, at least to be invited to camp.. I mean honestly, for the Canucks Archibald was invited to camp..
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:24 AM

I don't understand, how could you be drafted at 5, play 64 games and accumulate just 3 points? Where would we put someone like that?

We are having enough trouble scoring at present without taking on ANOTHER project.

The thought of giving up someone like Lu in the deal would haunt us forever.


He barely had any minutes playing 3rd/4th line with some terrible linemates.

Nino is still a very very good prospect and I would love have him on the Canucks.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 01:10 PM

Come on people this guy was drafted in 2010, was 19 years old playing in the top league on a crappy team.
No need to give up on him yet, if Garth is willing to trade him then I'd be happy to get him on our prospect pool.
Plus he's a left wing and we need more left wing prospects in the system
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:08 PM

Come on people this guy was drafted in 2010, was 19 years old playing in the top league on a crappy team.
No need to give up on him yet, if Garth is willing to trade him then I'd be happy to get him on our prospect pool.
Plus he's a left wing and we need more left wing prospects in the system



heres the problem

H'e's on a crappy team.

Yet he can't even crack the teams top 6 lineup? Thats sad. They didn't put him on the 3rd line. He did.

Because he wasn't good enough to play top 6 minutes yet.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:17 PM

heres the problem

H'e's on a crappy team.

Yet he can't even crack the teams top 6 lineup? Thats sad. They didn't put him on the 3rd line. He did.

Because he wasn't good enough to play top 6 minutes yet.


Lol so?
so he's not ready to play in the NHL at the age of 18 or 19, hodgson / Kassian wasn't either but you know what the difference is? we didn't keep him up here to fail. The kid had his confidence shattered and the horrendous organization of NYI failed to let him develop in juniors.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:19 PM

heres the problem

H'e's on a crappy team.

Yet he can't even crack the teams top 6 lineup? Thats sad. They didn't put him on the 3rd line. He did.

Because he wasn't good enough to play top 6 minutes yet.


Yet. Key word. He's young. Not every top5 pick is ready to jump into the league right away. In fact, most of them are not.


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:45 PM

silly reasons to want out. WTF is wrong with him? dont go near this guy Gillis. Another Cody Hodsgson in the making.


Islanders kept him up for the year at the age of 19.. He clearly wasn't ready. Now he doesn't even get an invite to camp?
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:57 PM

Would love this kid in our prospect pool. In the World Juniors he put the Swiss team on his back and almost had them take home a medal IIRC.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 05:07 PM

Google him and the first thing you notice is the word bust.

False, first thing I notice was the word Google, then his nickname El Nino, than his height, weight, wikipedia, trade, web, sound tiger, born. But nope no bust.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:22 PM

Nino.... thought this was about me for a second.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:40 PM

False, first thing I notice was the word Google, then his nickname El Nino, than his height, weight, wikipedia, trade, web, sound tiger, born. But nope no bust.

Get your eyes checked.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 07:08 PM

The Islanders are such a terrible organization.
Hire a real GM not a back-up goalie with little to no management experience.

The amount of top players they could and have drafted in the past 15 years, they should be icing all-star teams by now.


I know right it's crazy how bad they are after getting high draft picks for so long. They should hire Burke he could turn the Islanders around.

I mean how couldn't he with high draft picks and no pressure to win. The clown owner needs to wake up and fire Garth Snow and hire a real GM with experience like Burke.

Heck even Pierre McGuire could do a better job drafting and developing players than Garth freaking Snow.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:03 PM

Would love this kid in our prospect pool. In the World Juniors he put the Swiss team on his back and almost had them take home a medal IIRC.


I was at the Canada/Switzerland game in those WJCs - the Swiss lost 5-0, but they were very impressive nevertheless - they could skate with Canada, they could play a physical game with Canada, and they played a good team positioning game. The only really notable difference was how much better the Canadians were with their sticks, on both sides of the puck - but it was clear that the Swiss were closing the gap on the world - I wasn't surprised at this WJC how closely competitive they were - they took another stride.
Neiderreiter was clearly one of the best youngsters in the world. Playing him as a fourth liner with guys who have absolutely no offensive talent would seem to be an odd way to use a 19 year old bluechip but getting rid of the devalued youngster at this point would be exceeding dumb. I doubt the Islanders move him, but you never know.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:16 PM

If we could get Nino I'd do it in a heartbeat. He is a great player. We would need another nhler in the deal though. Grabs is probably the best choice unless they want to give us a a center to make room for strome next year.
Also anyone who is complaining about Hodgson asking for a trade needs to give their heads a shake. Hodgson is playing on Buffalo's top line and it is producing like crazy. Vanek had a 5 point night playing with the kid. We got so screwed in that trade its not even funny.
Buying out dipietro is a good idea but I'm not sure the owners would want to.
Realistically if we are taking Dipietro for Luongo that just makes the deal more one sided for ny.
I could see us getting nino and dipietro for luongo straight up and if we wanted bailey or even nielsen we'd have to give up a forward or D that can play solid nhl minutes.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:24 PM

If we could get Nino I'd do it in a heartbeat. He is a great player. We would need another nhler in the deal though. Grabs is probably the best choice unless they want to give us a a center to make room for strome next year.
Also anyone who is complaining about Hodgson asking for a trade needs to give their heads a shake. Hodgson is playing on Buffalo's top line and it is producing like crazy. Vanek had a 5 point night playing with the kid. We got so screwed in that trade its not even funny.
Buying out dipietro is a good idea but I'm not sure the owners would want to.
Realistically if we are taking Dipietro for Luongo that just makes the deal more one sided for ny.
I could see us getting nino and dipietro for luongo straight up and if we wanted bailey or even nielsen we'd have to give up a forward or D that can play solid nhl minutes.


to trade for Nino, it's going to take a hit on our already weak prospects pool.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:38 PM

I think Snow had no intentions of him playing with the team yet. They wanted to take the Detroit approach at leave him in the minors for one more year. There's nothing wrong with that, so they decided it's no use bringing him to camp. Nothing wrong with what they did. Why is everyone siding against Snow's decision? I don't get this. You guys talk like you what is going on. We really don't know the details. Maybe he showed up to camp out of shape and decided not to bring him to camp as a punishement? Who knows.
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1 Pavel Bure

2 Markus Naslund

3 Nathan Mackkinon

4 Jonathan Drouin.

5 Jonathan Tavares

 

http://bleacherrepor...d-top-prospects

combine results.  Ehlers 5'11 162 lbs of solid rock.  


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:47 PM

I think Snow had no intentions of him playing with the team yet. They wanted to take the Detroit approach at leave him in the minors for one more year. There's nothing wrong with that, so they decided it's no use bringing him to camp. Nothing wrong with what they did. Why is everyone siding against Snow's decision? I don't get this. You guys talk like you what is going on. We really don't know the details. Maybe he showed up to camp out of shape and decided not to bring him to camp as a punishement? Who knows.

Rush him into the NHL to only play 4th line minutes would suggest otherwise.

Also they never invited him to camp, even though he was on the team last year, and was bridgeport's leading scorer.

Those 2 things combined would piss anyone off, and question their ability to manage a club. He wants out before his career is ruined
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:08 PM

By the looks of all, he still needs time to develop. And he really should take time to develop another year in the minors. Wether it's on long island or somewhere else, he needs to do as he is told by people that have done these things in the past and developed players properly before.

He's talented, no doubt. But as everyone knows, scoring and keeping a high level in the AHL is quite a bit different that doing it in the NHL. Still, I wouldn't mind having him. I'm sure he will get his chance and be an elite player in the league in the future.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:24 AM

I think Snow had no intentions of him playing with the team yet. They wanted to take the Detroit approach at leave him in the minors for one more year. There's nothing wrong with that, so they decided it's no use bringing him to camp. Nothing wrong with what they did. Why is everyone siding against Snow's decision? I don't get this. You guys talk like you what is going on. We really don't know the details. Maybe he showed up to camp out of shape and decided not to bring him to camp as a punishement? Who knows.


If the Islanders all of a sudden want to change their philosophy on developing young players and leave them in the ahl to develope that's fine. But you don't bring up a 19 year old player, play him with absolute plugs leaving him little chance to succeed, and then not even give him a camp invite after he was one of the best players in the ahl during the lockout.

The point is he shouldnt have been in the nhl as he clearly wasn't ready at 19 years old, then after having a really solid campaign in the ahl they dont give him a camp invite when he actually might be ready? Sounds pretty damn backwards to me.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:24 AM

If the Islanders all of a sudden want to change their philosophy on developing young players and leave them in the ahl to develope that's fine. But you don't bring up a 19 year old player, play him with absolute plugs leaving him little chance to succeed, and then not even give him a camp invite after he was one of the best players in the ahl during the lockout.

The point is he shouldnt have been in the nhl as he clearly wasn't ready at 19 years old, then after having a really solid campaign in the ahl they dont give him a camp invite when he actually might be ready? Sounds pretty damn backwards to me.


Exactly, you have to go through the motions, you bring him up for camp, let him work to make the team. After the short camp you send him back down saying "We think you have tremendous upside and would like you to finish the year in the AHL, work hard and you may see a call up if a spot opens"

This way Nino at least gets an explanation.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:03 PM

I would be open to Nino any day. He was misused by NYI last year as most have said. I enjoyed watching him playing while he was in the WHL for Portland. It was always exciting when he got on the ice.

I think a change of scenery and a non fourth line role would do wonders for the kid. I wouldnt complain if that was in VAN
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:16 PM

I would be open to Nino any day. He was misused by NYI last year as most have said. I enjoyed watching him playing while he was in the WHL for Portland. It was always exciting when he got on the ice.

I think a change of scenery and a non fourth line role would do wonders for the kid. I wouldnt complain if that was in VAN

So you figure he could step into The Canucks 3rd-2nd line? If the Canucks got him they would probably put him in the minors to give him a good look before putting him on the big club. Of course if that happened a pile of NHL 13 GMs on here would be screaming for Gillis or AVs head.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:24 PM

so what do you awesome gm wannabe's propose?

I can't wait to see this.
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Players Nikolaj Ehlers have been compared too by the fan base of the Vancouver Canucks.

 

1 Pavel Bure

2 Markus Naslund

3 Nathan Mackkinon

4 Jonathan Drouin.

5 Jonathan Tavares

 

http://bleacherrepor...d-top-prospects

combine results.  Ehlers 5'11 162 lbs of solid rock.  


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:58 PM

So you figure he could step into The Canucks 3rd-2nd line? If the Canucks got him they would probably put him in the minors to give him a good look before putting him on the big club. Of course if that happened a pile of NHL 13 GMs on here would be screaming for Gillis or AVs head.


lol so true eh?
Nino would definitely be in the minors this year. That said he'd have a good shot at the team next year, UFA Raymond and UFA Higgins.
In 3-5 years I would love to see a Nino - Schroeder - Kassian / Jensen line
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:02 PM

Seems like a lot of posters on this thread don't really know who Nino Niederreiter is.
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