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#31 SkeeterHansen

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:07 AM

I think making trades is harder than fans think


This isn't NHL '13, where quantity bests quality. People don't seem to understand that.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:08 AM

i think mg is a crappy gm, only good move he had was trading for higgins, dont say hamhuis because so many teams offered him contracts and the only reason he came here was because hes a BC boy and wanted to play at home, its not like gillis pulled any magic to get him


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A jennings winning pair
Signing Schnieder to a good contract
Signing the Sedins to a discount
Signing Edler to a discount
Signing Hammer
Signing Burr to a discount
Not panicking because we're not undefeated

bad GM bad GM, bad coach, bad team. I am a canuck baby...I expect a win every game dammit.Clearly, I have never played a sport in my life because I expect my team to play a whole season without losing, to be first overall every year, to win the stanley cup every year, because know what? My mommy gave me ribbons for just participating and gave me everything I want, so my canucks have to give me what I want. I want pefection, I want them to play better than the Oilers of the 80's and when they don't I am going to whine and cry and complain, because when I do mommy gives me what I want, so why don't the canucks?
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#33 Bob.Loblaw

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:09 AM

Nobody thought Kadri would do this well. At the time, everyone would have called for MG's head if he traded a goalie for Kadri.


Well, I think we should've seen an improvement coming, if not a breakout. Only the cynics would've predicted him to play as bad as he used to.

Your second statement actually does suggest MG is a sucker for the fans and media.
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#34 BuretoMogilny

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:10 AM

I think this fan represents a vast majority of Canucks fans...


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#35 BuretoMogilny

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:12 AM

MG was also hired as a rookie GM. IT was a shock to me when he was hired. One would think with a team that had the likes of the sedins and luongo the Canucks would have hired a seasoned more proven GM instead of a rookie.

Because in situations like this, things such as not pulling the trigger can occur, or pulling the trigger and giving up to much like premature moves happen. For instance why not wait till july 1st, if we lost out on hamhuis why not then try to trade for Ballard, we would have had a 1st round pick like Howden and could have made a trade at a different time. He prematurely made the move and now we have too many high priced lhd.

Same goes with signing Garrison, 6 years 4.6m ntc!!?? for a guy who had one decent year where a large portion of his points and goals were score in the first half of the season, seriously come one im sure gm's around the league couldnt believe that move. Dont get me wrong I like garrison but I was hoping for a bridge contract of 2-3years at around 3 m or so as a home town discount.

Once a goalie trade happens that is a huge telling of where our team is headed and what MG has done. I agree with the post about Kadri. I saw his potential and I think he just needed a fresh start and thought he could be serviceable and excel, well that boat and sailed.

The coach should be on the hot seat hes had many years with a great roster and hasnt done enough past 2nd round once, yes it was cup final game 7. Who cares president trophies big whoop it sure helped when we played the 8th seed last year and got ousted early in the 1st round.

If i was the owner I would be a bit concerned with the direction of this team. Losing our toughest player to waivers, he could hit, was a decent skater and stood up for teammates what more can you ask for in a 4th line grinder? Now we have a ton of money spent on D men and goalies, and some higher priced forwards who are injury prone and havent had time to gel (booth,Kesler)

Wheres are so despereately needed secondary scoring? Remove our great goaltending performances early in the year and we could but in a whole different situation. You cant rely on a goalie every night, same as the cup final. Even tho Luo had some crapty games he also won us a few aswell. Our team scored 8 goals all series, Most teams would have lost in 4 or 5 games if that was the case. And to this date we still lack quality secondary scoring 2 years later...



Stop the whining... IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE WATCHING A TERRIFIC HOCKEY TEAM THATS IN 3RD PLACE AND ISN'T PERFECT GO CHEER FOR THE HAWKS!

THEY ARE SETTING RECORDS TO GO CHEER FOR THEM!!!

Edited by debluvscanucks, 01 March 2013 - 07:37 AM.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:14 AM

Yeah I know, trades are hard to make, you have to find the perfect fit and the perfect partner.

I am willing to bet out of every 10 possibilites you explore with any reasonability, atleast 9.5 of those endevors fail to gain any serious traction.

Trades aren't easy to make, people gotta understand MG can't get whoever he wants whenever he wants too.


I've honestly always been very curious to see how trades materialize.
How often GM's
- shop players
- Propose trades
- How much discussion there is between teams
- How many trades fail at the last minute
- Do all GMs know about a trade before it happens

Etc
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:23 AM

i think mg is a crappy gm, only good move he had was trading for higgins, dont say hamhuis because so many teams offered him contracts and the only reason he came here was because hes a BC boy and wanted to play at home, its not like gillis pulled any magic to get him

You're so blind its ridiculous. 'Only good move was trading for Higgins' :lol: Lets take a look here

Over Gillis's tenure here he has

- Gave up next to nothing for Ehrhoff
- Brought in Samuelsson (later sent to Florida for a second line power forward in Booth)
- Signed a top 2 D man (Hamhuis)
- Signed Torres (who was amazing here)
- Re-signed the Sedins
- Re-signed Burrows (twice)
- Traded a rookie who was complaining about ice time for a promising young power forward
- Got Lapierre for dirt cheap
- Drafted big and skilled players over the last two years (Jensen and Gaunce)
- Re-signed Kesler
- Re-signed Luongo
- Kept both goalies due to the risk of one getting injured and not getting the right offer (payed off nicely so far)

Gillis has really only made three bad moves so far

- Trading for Ballard while giving up Grabner and a 1st which could've been Howden, Kuznetsov, Etem etc
- Let Ehrhoff go
- Let Torres

Need I go on?

Oh yea, he was also GM of the year two years ago.

Edited by Steven Stamkos' Mullet, 01 March 2013 - 02:24 AM.

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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:02 AM

Stop the f'ing whining... IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE WATCHING A TERRIFIC HOCKEY TEAM THATS IN 3RD F'ING PLACE AND ISN'T PERFECT GO CHEER FOR THE HAWKS!

THEY ARE SETTING RECORDS TO GO CHEER FOR THEM!!!


Whats your problem. Im stating my personal opinion. I have and always will be a Canucks fan till the day I die. Doesnt mean I cant voice my opinion about who the team hires to me the GM or coach or certain moves they make. This is a forum, and everybody voices their opinion.

In my post did I ever say Gillis is horrible, he has been an epic fail and cant run a team? No, ive stated my concerns about certain things that have happened and I hope things change as the style of play and the lack of quality scoring depth is a concern to me, and should be to many fans.

No need to run your mouth, I dont think I was out of line with what I said, I have seen far worse on this forum.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:16 AM

Everyone thought Gillis was a genius when he traded Samuelsson and Sturm for Booth.

It's easy to judge in hindsight.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:50 AM

I think making trades is harder than fans think


Gillis has a lot of difficulty making good trades. His biggest trades have crippled this team. He's the reason the current team is struggling and our future looks bleak with a lack of quality prospects.

He started off OK but has been going downhill since he traded away Grabner and a first for Ballard. He's transformed the highest scoring team in the league to what we have now

...and then he lets Volpatti go for nothing when we desperately need more grit.

Good GMs don't find it hard to consistently make trades that work out.

Edited by speedyglass, 01 March 2013 - 03:59 AM.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:03 AM

Oi yoi yoi.  MG has said numerous times that making hockey trades can take alot of time, and can involve many variables.  And you forget other teams are operating on the same principles.  To uninformed fans, it`s easy to think making trades is no different
than NHL13.  

I`m sure Gillis is examining weaknesses of the team and determining what to do about it.  Let the man do his job.

This..some people think trades can be made in 1 day, they can on a video game. In the real world in a cuttroat sport like the NHL it takes time and patience to pull off a good hockey trade, you also have to have a willing partner. Lots of people said the Canucks should offer sheet guys like O'Relly and look how that turned out for the Flames, lot harder than it looks.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:15 AM

Brutal thread....
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:29 AM

There's no proof he was offered Kadri and Schenn. I doubt the Leafs would even offer that.

Burke was rumored to have offered Schenn for Luongo, and then he offered Bozak and Kadri for Luongo. They were never rumored in the same package.

As for him being gun shy. I think he's scared of messing with the chemistry of the team. But as of right now there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of that, so maybe it's a good time for a deal.


What chemistry?
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:44 AM

Lu for 1st
Kesler for 1st +
Booth,. higgins for 1st
Bieksa for 1st
Hamhuis for 1st +
Garrison for 1st

make them waive their ntc's

add that to canucks' 1st = 7 1st rd picks in deep draft. Window is now, this core aint getting any younger or better. If Gillis cant get them over the hump then its better to tank. Cup or Bust! As it stands right now this team won't go all the way; maybe 2nd rd or conf finals but that should be considered a big failure.

Would prefer not to tank, so Gillis it is up to you to make this team wayy better by deadline. If not then just build for the future and don't settle for 2nd rd or conf finals appearance!

Canucks dont go all the way and next year they are stuck with aging sedins, injury prone kesler, aging defensemen in bieksa and hamhuis while other teams' younger superstars will hit their prime.
Also stuck with overpaid players in booth, ballard, garrison.

Edited by ALTtimegreat, 01 March 2013 - 07:45 AM.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:56 AM

I always love how, when players start panning out as hoped, people take a "see, I told you so" attitude. Or when our guys drag their feet a little, we should scrap everything.

Kadri's work ethic could likely be called into question at certain times...sure, the dream and desire was there, but he was a little inconsistent and it took awhile to get him to buckle down. There is never any certainty in that and, as much as he's lighting it up now, he's been a work in project. If you're screaming for roster players who'll contribute on an immediate basis to improve things, he was by no means a sure bet for that, despite the success he's having. In hindsight, every deal is horrible/great but you don't have that crystal ball available.

Patient and steady has been the approach...although it doesn't give the gamers that daily deal instant gratification that they're looking for, you don't simply "get" players or send them elsewhere. I have faith in MG, as a calculating GM who has recently been acknowledged as the best GM in the league. At that level, it usually doesn't indicate a flash in the pan thing or someone who doesn't know what he's doing.

Ha, if you know anything about MG's history, you'd know he'd likely be anything but gun shy. A guy who stands by his convictions and isn't easily swayed...one who's had to stand up in the face of adversity and often, that did mean standing alone. This is a guy who acts on things - he doesn't react, as some here would have him do.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:32 AM

You're so blind its ridiculous. 'Only good move was trading for Higgins' :lol: Lets take a look here

Over Gillis's tenure here he has

- Gave up next to nothing for Ehrhoff
- Brought in Samuelsson (later sent to Florida for a second line power forward in Booth)
- Signed a top 2 D man (Hamhuis)
- Signed Torres (who was amazing here)
- Re-signed the Sedins
- Re-signed Burrows (twice)
- Traded a rookie who was complaining about ice time for a promising young power forward
- Got Lapierre for dirt cheap
- Drafted big and skilled players over the last two years (Jensen and Gaunce)
- Re-signed Kesler
- Re-signed Luongo
- Kept both goalies due to the risk of one getting injured and not getting the right offer (payed off nicely so far)

Gillis has really only made three bad moves so far

- Trading for Ballard while giving up Grabner and a 1st which could've been Howden, Kuznetsov, Etem etc
- Let Ehrhoff go
- Let Torres

Need I go on?

Oh yea, he was also GM of the year two years ago.


I think you're missing a few things... and suddenly the list changes in weight heavily...

Over Gillis's tenure here he has

- Gave up next to nothing for Ehrhoff
- Brought in Samuelsson (later sent to Florida for a second line power forward in Booth)
- Signed a top 2 D man (Hamhuis)
- Signed Torres (who was amazing here)
- Re-signed the Sedins
- Re-signed Burrows (twice)
- Traded a rookie who was complaining about ice time for a promising young power forward
- Got Lapierre for dirt cheap
- Drafted big and skilled players over the last two years (Jensen and Gaunce)
- Re-signed Kesler
- Re-signed Luongo
- Kept both goalies due to the risk of one getting injured and not getting the right offer (payed off nicely so far)

Gillis has really only made three quite a few bad moves so far

- Trading for Ballard while giving up Grabner and a 1st which could've been Howden, Kuznetsov, Etem etc
- Let Ehrhoff go
- Let Torres
-Mismanaged Hodgson (our best prospect since the last lockout) and his injury and traded him for a prospect that may or may not pan out, at a time when we needed a scoring center and Kesler was clearly injured heading into the playoffs
-Signed Garrison to a terrible contract when a RHD was needed not another left
-Gave Luongo the "C"
-Signed Luongo to a terrible contract
-Kept both goalies when other assets are needed. Terrible mismanagement of this situation
-Let Salo go despite his presence when healthy being clearly evident and replace him with Garrison
-Barebones prospect pool, ranked one of the worst in the league
-Punted Malhotra under questionable circumstances
-Failed to adress weaknesses like toughness while letting strengths like scoring from the back end weaken
-Offered Sundin a horrendous contract that would have left no room to resign the Sedins
-Signed Marco Sturm in the first place! Duhh!
-Has a D corps making way too much $$ with little upside

I'd say he's not as good as your original list.

Edited by teamsta, 01 March 2013 - 08:33 AM.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:12 AM

I think making trades is harder than fans think

Absolutely. It is way harder than it used to be due to salary cap considerations. Not only does it make a simple one for one more difficult teams look for opportunities to clean up there own cap messes. I appreciate that your comments are generally calm and well thought out.

We have won back to back Presidents' trophies and went to Game 7 of the SCF. Why do fans want a manager that trades for the sake of trading? I want one that makes trades to improve the team.

Yes, we seem to be struggling right now but the wiser course is to see if they can right the ship. There is a full 4 weeks until the trade deadline. Did we really miss out on something people? Cole? Ryder? McGrattan? Losing Volpatti?
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:19 AM

Yes 2 pres trophies, One SCF appearance
A jennings winning pair
Signing Schnieder to a good contract
Signing the Sedins to a discount
Signing Edler to a discount
Signing Hammer
Signing Burr to a discount
Not panicking because we're not undefeated

bad GM bad GM, bad coach, bad team. I am a canuck baby...I expect a win every game dammit.Clearly, I have never played a sport in my life because I expect my team to play a whole season without losing, to be first overall every year, to win the stanley cup every year, because know what? My mommy gave me ribbons for just participating and gave me everything I want, so my canucks have to give me what I want. I want pefection, I want them to play better than the Oilers of the 80's and when they don't I am going to whine and cry and complain, because when I do mommy gives me what I want, so why don't the canucks?

Beautiful post.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:20 AM

I think you're missing a few things... and suddenly the list changes in weight heavily...

Over Gillis's tenure here he has

- Gave up next to nothing for Ehrhoff
- Brought in Samuelsson (later sent to Florida for a second line power forward in Booth)
- Signed a top 2 D man (Hamhuis)
- Signed Torres (who was amazing here)
- Re-signed the Sedins
- Re-signed Burrows (twice)
- Traded a rookie who was complaining about ice time for a promising young power forward
- Got Lapierre for dirt cheap
- Drafted big and skilled players over the last two years (Jensen and Gaunce)
- Re-signed Kesler
- Re-signed Luongo
- Kept both goalies due to the risk of one getting injured and not getting the right offer (payed off nicely so far)

Gillis has really only made three quite a few bad moves so far

- Trading for Ballard while giving up Grabner and a 1st which could've been Howden, Kuznetsov, Etem etc
- Let Ehrhoff go
- Let Torres
-Mismanaged Hodgson (our best prospect since the last lockout) and his injury and traded him for a prospect that may or may not pan out, at a time when we needed a scoring center and Kesler was clearly injured heading into the playoffs
-Signed Garrison to a terrible contract when a RHD was needed not another left
-Gave Luongo the "C"
-Signed Luongo to a terrible contract
-Kept both goalies when other assets are needed. Terrible mismanagement of this situation
-Let Salo go despite his presence when healthy being clearly evident and replace him with Garrison
-Barebones prospect pool, ranked one of the worst in the league
-Punted Malhotra under questionable circumstances
-Failed to adress weaknesses like toughness while letting strengths like scoring from the back end weaken
-Offered Sundin a horrendous contract that would have left no room to resign the Sedins
-Signed Marco Sturm in the first place! Duhh!
-Has a D corps making way too much $$ with little upside

I'd say he's not as good as your original list.

How did Gillis mismanage Hodgson? He wasn't going to get ice time over our captain or Selke winner from the year before, and was traded so he can get ice time. And this is one thing about CDC that makes me want to pull my hair out. Writing players off who signed here in the summer because in 20 games he hasn't lived up to a fan's stupid expectation
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:21 AM

Lu for 1st
Kesler for 1st +
Booth,. higgins for 1st
Bieksa for 1st
Hamhuis for 1st +
Garrison for 1st

make them waive their ntc's

add that to canucks' 1st = 7 1st rd picks in deep draft. Window is now, this core aint getting any younger or better. If Gillis cant get them over the hump then its better to tank. Cup or Bust! As it stands right now this team won't go all the way; maybe 2nd rd or conf finals but that should be considered a big failure.

Would prefer not to tank, so Gillis it is up to you to make this team wayy better by deadline. If not then just build for the future and don't settle for 2nd rd or conf finals appearance!

Canucks dont go all the way and next year they are stuck with aging sedins, injury prone kesler, aging defensemen in bieksa and hamhuis while other teams' younger superstars will hit their prime.
Also stuck with overpaid players in booth, ballard, garrison.

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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:26 AM

Gillis shy to pull the trigger cost us Kadri and Schenn.

Kadri has like 20 points this year and is still developing. Not a huge fan of Schenn but at least he's big, physical and a right hand shot.

Kadri was considered a bust and Luke Schenn doesn't really fit our defense. He would be a good physical bottom pairing guy but doesn't he make like 3.5m? Overpayment for what he brings.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:44 AM

I now dread every move Mike Gillis makes.............and thats the truth.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:50 AM

Yes 2 pres trophies, One SCF appearance
A jennings winning pair
Signing Schnieder to a good contract
Signing the Sedins to a discount
Signing Edler to a discount
Signing Hammer
Signing Burr to a discount
Not panicking because we're not undefeated

bad GM bad GM, bad coach, bad team. I am a canuck baby...I expect a win every game dammit.Clearly, I have never played a sport in my life because I expect my team to play a whole season without losing, to be first overall every year, to win the stanley cup every year, because know what? My mommy gave me ribbons for just participating and gave me everything I want, so my canucks have to give me what I want. I want pefection, I want them to play better than the Oilers of the 80's and when they don't I am going to whine and cry and complain, because when I do mommy gives me what I want, so why don't the canucks?


Sorry man the edler contract was just awful...what a terrible overrated defenseman.as was mentioned Hammer sought us out and made the deal himself.Yes Mike gillis is a good GM...this next trade will define his legacy. Time will tell.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:25 AM

Can't blame Gillis for injuries and it's effects on the team. Just look at this lineup

Sedins-Burr
Booth-Kesler-Kassian/higgins
Raymond-Schroeder-Hansen
sestito-Lapierre-kassian/Higgins
Weise

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Garrison
Ballard-Tanev
Alberts

Luongo
Schneider

That's a damn good lineup. There could be slight upgrades like getting a top 6 winger to replace higgins/kassian in the top 6 or get a good RD since we have LD who struggle playing RD or get a 3rd line C who is bigger.

Trading a goalie for a top 6 winger or a RD or center depth would be the only knock right now for Gillis.

it's hard for the players to get chemistry with AV always changing the lines every shift it seems and injuries. Sedins-Burr are the only line set it stone over the years and that changes too
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:31 AM

I think making trades is harder than fans think


Oh for sure...its not like the seventies when I traded hockey cards....BUT when a team gains players that the Nux could have easily grabbed its hard to have faith in our GM...
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:34 AM

I usually don't agree with any thread in Canucks talk, but OP I think you may be on to something... Ill give you a +
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 12:04 PM

I think being in a fish bowl has made Gillis gun shy. Mike now feels that the deal has to be a block buster type to appease the fans and media. We have prospects we have picks we have ufa's that could walk at the end of the season we have 2 starting goalies. At the moment we could make a number of smaller trades that could help but he seems to want to stand pat.


MG has his vision and gives a rat's @$$ what the fans or media thinks about how to build a team...I'm sure many of you have seen him scoff with disdain at some of the ludicrous ideas that comes from the fandom and the media.

And as Kack Zass has put it, making trades is a lot more difficult than many think.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 12:06 PM

I always love how, when players start panning out as hoped, people take a "see, I told you so" attitude. Or when our guys drag their feet a little, we should scrap everything.

Kadri's work ethic could likely be called into question at certain times...sure, the dream and desire was there, but he was a little inconsistent and it took awhile to get him to buckle down. There is never any certainty in that and, as much as he's lighting it up now, he's been a work in project. If you're screaming for roster players who'll contribute on an immediate basis to improve things, he was by no means a sure bet for that, despite the success he's having. In hindsight, every deal is horrible/great but you don't have that crystal ball available.

Patient and steady has been the approach...although it doesn't give the gamers that daily deal instant gratification that they're looking for, you don't simply "get" players or send them elsewhere. I have faith in MG, as a calculating GM who has recently been acknowledged as the best GM in the league. At that level, it usually doesn't indicate a flash in the pan thing or someone who doesn't know what he's doing.

Ha, if you know anything about MG's history, you'd know he'd likely be anything but gun shy. A guy who stands by his convictions and isn't easily swayed...one who's had to stand up in the face of adversity and often, that did mean standing alone. This is a guy who acts on things - he doesn't react, as some here would have him do.


Trading away Grabner and Hodgson is NOT being patient and steady. Regardless of what they wanted, he caved and we picked up lesser talent.

But you're right, MG wasn't gun shy in the past. He made big moves before and after the cup run. He made some good trades to pick up guys like Ehrhoff, Higgins, Lapierre. He's also picked up Ballard, Booth, Kassian, and been eaten up for it. Whether he deserved that criticism or not is beyond the point. He's probably rattled, even if he says otherwise.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 12:13 PM

Gillis has a lot of difficulty making good trades. His biggest trades have crippled this team. He's the reason the current team is struggling and our future looks bleak with a lack of quality prospects.

He started off OK but has been going downhill since he traded away Grabner and a first for Ballard. He's transformed the highest scoring team in the league to what we have now

...and then he lets Volpatti go for nothing when we desperately need more grit.

Good GMs don't find it hard to consistently make trades that work out.


Guess you missed the memo that the Canucks picked up Sestito...
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