Zuongo Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Plus Retained salary on Lou. So after all these big moves, what do you think of the outcome. I know in the context of these trades its a little different, but value wise are you happy with the return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I'm happy with the return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Not a good return overall IMO. Happy with Horvat, but not so much with the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 This is twisted, just because we lost Matthias to free agency doesn't mean we didn't get him From what we had to what we have, I feel the Canucks brass has mismanaged some assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaramel MacKhiato Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Do you think we should've kept the former? Imagine our team now, we would be aging with no hopes for a future (and 2 starting goalies). Rebuilding is a risky business, who knows how our young guys (Markstrom, Horvat, McCann) will turn out. They could easily develop into a schneider or a Kesler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakanucks Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I'm fine with it, the only player I wish we had was Schnieds, but then we wouldn't have horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestlockWarrior Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Love it !! Especially considering how handcuffed Kesler made us w. His 2 team trade demand. If Horvat Mcann and Markstrom all teach their potentials then this is a landslide victory for Canucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Are we younger, bigger, faster, and have a foundation for the future? I would say we're not doing too badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insomniac604 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I think it's fine. We got some picks and in the meantime our prospect pool has been nicely stocked. We suffer for a little bit until they get experience and we'll be good to go.I worry about our D depth but that depends on how Corrado, Sbisa and Subban wind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Unless McCann and Markstrom reach their potential, no not really. I do like the Schneider-Horvat trade though. He's going to be one of the best centers in the league in his prime imo. Schneider would just be wasted here since we won't be ready to compete for a while and we probably couldn't get a better return unless we trade within the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Are we younger, bigger, faster, and have a foundation for the future? I would say we're not doing too badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHatnDart Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Defence is the biggest question mark going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 So the only one on that list with both high value and no NTC was Schnieder and we got Horvat in return for him. Yeah, I'm pretty happy considering the circumstances and the NTCs that Gillis saddled us with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chayne Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Considering being hand cuffed with salaries, not bad I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckBoss Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Honestly, not bad But with those big names you'd think we should have hit the jackpot on the returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Honestly, not bad But with those big names you'd think we should have hit the jackpot on the returns Big names who handcuffed management with no trade clauses. It's not really the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SN- Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Too many people look at that and only see numbers and names. There's a lot of context that needs to be considered like intangible qualities to players, contract intricacies, team and player history, and the needs of the team. Considering the new direction of the team, and how badly Benning was handcuffed by the ridiculous contracts of the previous administration, I think these are pretty good moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanstorm Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Luongo, Schneider, Kesler, Bieksa, Lack, = Markstrom, Horvat, Sbisa, Sutter, Dorsett, McCann, 3rd, 3rd, 7th We failed miserably. Yes in the long run we will be improved but if we wanted to be on top for the next couple seasons and have a real shot at the cup again we shoulda kept the Luongo/Schnider/Kesler/Bieksa. Maybe traded Schneider if we could of kept Horvat, then we wouldn't need Markstrom and we would have. Luongo/Lack/Kesler/Bieksa/Horvat << I'd be happy with that. Some future pieces with Lack/Horvat, and keeping the grit and core of Luo/Kes/KB maybe having the edge to get to the finals again soon. Sutter,Sbisa,Dorsett,McCann and those picks aren't really interesting to me, but still helpful in the future.. Dorsett is alright on the 4th line and knows how to stick up for a teammate and Sutter I don't know much about but he's a 2nd/3rd liner to replace what Kesler was in that right handed shot, I don't think he will be as efficient as his numbers show but if the canucks make a push in the future he could be a part of that core then. Who knows.. Markstrom I think could be really good for us some day so I am happy with that but if I could keep the core.. yup i'd do that. We also are missing the Kassian + 3rd round pick/Prust trade which I was not happy with. I know Kesler wanted out but he shouldn't of been a ___ about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoosh Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Too many people look at that and only see numbers and names. There's a lot of context that needs to be considered like intangible qualities to players, contract intricacies, team and player history, and the needs of the team. Considering the new direction of the team, and how badly Benning was handcuffed by the ridiculous contracts of the previous administration, I think these are pretty good moves. Well said. I think the return hasn't made me jump around in excitement at the time they happened, but the outcome and the potential we got there is more exciting than what we've had in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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