Mathew Barzal Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Tanev gives the Islanders the defensive presence they were missing this season and helps to incentivize Tavares to return. In return, the Canucks get another top 15 pick. This could make for a draft with Dahlin/Boqvist/Hughes/Bouchard + Wilde/McIsaac/Woo/Dobson. Instantly, our future on defense looks much brighter with Hutton sputtering and Pouliot looking very much like a stop gap. Ho-Sang has continued to struggle with his attitude issues (?). Regardless, he is an offensive dynamo and would help out the Comets a lot next year. He's an expendable asset given the Islanders forward depth. I'm not much of a proposal guy, so feel free to burn me at the stake if this is way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Just now, Mathew Barzal said: Tanev gives the Islanders the defensive presence they were missing this season and helps to incentivize Tavares to return. In return, the Canucks get another top 15 pick. This could make for a draft with Dahlin/Boqvist/Hughes/Bouchard + Wilde/McIsaac/Woo/Dobson. Instantly, our future on defense looks much brighter with Hutton sputtering and Pouliot looking very much like a stop gap. Ho-Sang has continued to struggle with his attitude issues (?). Regardless, he is an offensive dynamo and would help out the Comets a lot next year. He's an expendable asset given the Islanders forward depth. I'm not much of a proposal guy, so feel free to burn me at the stake if this is way off. How soon after the season are teams allowed to trade guys? I wonder if the islanders would acquire Tanev to show Tavares they are trying to win now? This could really work in our favour, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Good one, man. I'd be in lika' dirty shirt! Would even throw Granny in, if it greased the wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, Mathew Barzal said: Tanev gives the Islanders the defensive presence they were missing this season and helps to incentivize Tavares to return. In return, the Canucks get another top 15 pick. This could make for a draft with Dahlin/Boqvist/Hughes/Bouchard + Wilde/McIsaac/Woo/Dobson. Instantly, our future on defense looks much brighter with Hutton sputtering and Pouliot looking very much like a stop gap. Ho-Sang has continued to struggle with his attitude issues (?). Regardless, he is an offensive dynamo and would help out the Comets a lot next year. He's an expendable asset given the Islanders forward depth. I'm not much of a proposal guy, so feel free to burn me at the stake if this is way off. no burns, I actually like this one a lot. Two top 15 D next draft, yes thank you. I don't know how much value Ho-Sang really has, he's not an upgrade on Jake e.g., but he could be an interesting future addition to the top 9 or maybe an energy guy. It would be interesting to see what Green can do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 If there's any team that would trade an RD (Hamonic) just to re-aquire one a year later it'd be the Islanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 If Tanev value has dropped, I'd be willing to do 1 for 1 Tanev for the 15th overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, Xbox said: If there's any team that would trade an RD (Hamonic) just to re-aquire one a year later it'd be the Islanders. To be fair, didn't Hamonic want out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 That’s a pretty fair deal for both teams imo. Ho-Sang hasn’t gotten a fair shake on the Islanders, and they need a guy like Tanev. Good proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Owl Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Ho Sang makes Goldy look like Bo as far as being engaged in the play goes. Please keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mathew Barzal said: To be fair, didn't Hamonic want out? Oh I didn't know that. I thought Calgary just offered them a ridiculous offer so they traded him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure1010 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I like the proposal. But islanders say no just for the simple fact as to y would they. If they lose tavares then they lost a high draft pick and a forward who is a wild card. But they gain a good stay at home defenceman Who is 28 with a lot of miles on him to rebuild around. They still have no goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 With the Islanders, it all depends on Tavares. If signs point to him leaving, then those picks aren't going anywhere. If it looks like he'll stay, then they would probably use one of those picks to upgrade their roster and Tanev would fit well. Maybe we could include Gagner since he's good friends with Tavares. We just get an extra late round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I would highly doubt that Snow would pay that for Tanev. I think we will all be sorely disappointed with the return on the inevitable Tanev trade. Tanev for Ho Sang and a second might be closer. Honestly I have made proposals to acquire Ho Sang in the past. Buuuuuut that was a past that didn't include Pettersson, Goldobin, Dahlen, Leipsic, Boucher. The position of smallish skilled fwd appears to have been filled. I want the Canucks to find room for Gaudette, Pettersson, and maybe Dahlen, Juolevi, Gadjo, Lind too for a cup of coffee next season. I don't see room for Ho Sang let alone Baertschi, Gagner, Goldy, Boucher and were stuck with Loui. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtieCanuck Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Alflives said: How soon after the season are teams allowed to trade guys? I wonder if the islanders would acquire Tanev to show Tavares they are trying to win now? This could really work in our favour, right? I believe as far as the rules are concerned, you can trade immediately after the regular season is over but only teams not actively in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 They could trade him to a playoff team as I understand it he just wouldn't be able to play until next season. I'm a bit foggy on this though. Usually only happens for teams looking to add AHL depth. NOT Tanev caliber players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Considering that NYI could potentially have two lottery picks, as Calgary's I believe is not top 10 protected that they recieved in the trade for Travis Hamonic, and the possibility of losing JT. I think NYI may decide to hold onto the pick. Creative idea though, I was definitely thinking about this as well a few weeks ago at the deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Considering that NYI could potentially have two lottery picks, as Calgary's I believe is not top 10 protected that they recieved in the trade for Travis Hamonic, and the possibility of losing JT. I think NYI may decide to hold onto the pick. Creative idea though, I was definitely thinking about this as well a few weeks ago at the deadline It's actually why they did not make a trade at the deadline. Snow was expecting to use the Calgary pick to improve his roster at the deadline but with Calgary possibly missing the playoffs he decided to hold on to the pick. It's not lottery protected and a top-15 has more value than a late 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 30 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Considering that NYI could potentially have two lottery picks, as Calgary's I believe is not top 10 protected that they recieved in the trade for Travis Hamonic, and the possibility of losing JT. I think NYI may decide to hold onto the pick. Creative idea though, I was definitely thinking about this as well a few weeks ago at the deadline 6 minutes ago, mll said: It's actually why they did not make a trade at the deadline. Snow was expecting to use the Calgary pick to improve his roster at the deadline but with Calgary possibly missing the playoffs he decided to hold on to the pick. It's not lottery protected and a top-15 has more value than a late 1st. I understand this, but assuming their picks withstand the draft lottery and Tavares shows interest in re-signing contingent on major moves to make the Islanders a contender I think sacrificing one of their two mid round picks would be an option. If you look at their roster it's not as if a giant youth movement is going on either where they should be stingy with futures. Most of their top producers are in their prime, Barzal and Beauvillier being the exceptions. Maybe I should have put that hypothetical in the OP, oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Would pass on Ho-Sang and go after Keifer Bellows or Devon Toews instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Ahh, CDC. Where people do nothing but complain about the durability of Gudbranson and Tanev, yet think we can get a 1st and a prospect for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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