Nuxfanabroad Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Thread I saw on HFBoards asks this interesting question. There are quite a variety of views/insights, & prob lessons all 31 GM's could glean from analysis of this Sept blockbuster. As a Sens-backer, I'm quite pleased with how they came outa' this deal. They got the best decade(one could ask for) outa' EK, & flipped him for 6 useful pieces. Not too shabby. His health plays a BIG factor in the evaluation. & it looks like he won't be re-signing in the San Fran Slums..denying another 2nd rounder to OTT. So all told, they prob got: - 2019 2nd, 2020 1st, Tierney, Demelo, Balcers, Norris(signed him today) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Well Sharks definitely lose if Karlsson walks in free agency 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, captainhorvat said: Well Sharks definitely lose if Karlsson walks in free agency But say they sign him, & his injuries go on forever? Could potentially look like the Ducks/Kesler(LTIR write-off). Doug Wilson gave up on the experts, & now visits gypsy ladies for tarot/tea leaf readings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Considering if they didn't trade Karlsson it was likely he would have signed elsewhere, and the Sens would have had nothing to show, I say they won that deal. It doesn't matter whether he signs in San Jose again or not. The Sens win either way. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nucker 67 Posted May 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2019 They're all losers 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Thread I saw on HFBoards asks this interesting question. There are quite a variety of views/insights, & prob lessons all 31 GM's could glean from analysis of this Sept blockbuster. As a Sens-backer, I'm quite pleased with how they came outa' this deal. They got the best decade(one could ask for) outa' EK, & flipped him for 6 useful pieces. Not too shabby. His health plays a BIG factor in the evaluation. & it looks like he won't be re-signing in the San Fran Slums..denying another 2nd rounder to OTT. So all told, they prob got: - 2019 2nd, 2020 1st, Tierney, Demelo, Balcers, Norris(signed him today) Where did you hear that he's not re-signing? Even Karlsson says he would like to stay but it depends on different factors (paraphrasing) Edited May 27, 2019 by Dazzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Whoever signs him next 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 It was either lose him for nothing or get something for him, so considering the return Ottawa got, they should be very happy with how it went Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Dazzle said: Where did you hear that he's not re-signing? Even Karlsson says he would like to stay but it depends on different factors (paraphrasing) His tweet kinda sounded, "thanx for the memories..." Guess we'll see, but the Sharks might encounter cap-grief, with a few questionable contracts on the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 hours ago, captainhorvat said: Well Sharks definitely lose if Karlsson walks in free agency I think the Karlsson signing was about giving Jumbo another legit shot at the cup because that's all that was guaranteed. Who predicted Karlsson having a groin issue at the time of the signing. EK for the future was always a maybe Without the injury, maybe they win the trade. Injuries so often dictate the cup winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeydew Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Ottawa imo at least they got assets back even if it's not really what they wanted in terms of "value" but considering Karlsson is leaning towards of leaving the Sharks I have to say the Sens won this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Sharks won. Sens could have got more, if they focused on quality over quantity. Norris is OK, but not a high-end prospect, and the rest are just depth guys and long-shots. I'd say Brannstrom (who they got in the Stone deal) will end up worth more than the entire return for Karlsson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Sharks lost big time. They pushed all their chips in, and their bluff got called. They be due for a big fall off next season. Might miss the playoffs too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Erik Karlssons Wife 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Read into that what you will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, naslund.is.king said: Erik Karlssons Wife B,b,but she's married to Beauty Salon Zorro! Don't tell her I stuck pins in his voodoo groin..k? sidenote: Hey Snarks-backers..take yer PP chomp & aim it at yer collective fat-cap A$$, eh?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 5 hours ago, captainhorvat said: Well Sharks definitely lose if Karlsson walks in free agency Them the risks if you feel you're that close (and frankly look how this post-season has gone where it seems the Cup is up for grabs). You can't always play it safe & sometimes you gotta go 'all in' (though it's hardly like they gave up five 1st round picks + alot of cash) as you don't know how long that window will remain open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Benning won't go there I hope ( signing him ) but I feel Ottawa did well here. San Jose failed by falling short of reaching the finals, I think his value has gone sideways and stays in San Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) Ottawa didn't lose. They could perhaps have done better, but something is better than nothing: Erik KarlssonFrancis Perron September 13, 2018 Josh NorrisChris TierneyRudolfs BalcersDylan DeMelo2019 2nd round pick2019 or 2020 conditional 1st round pick2021 conditional 1st or 2nd round pick2022 conditional 1st round pick Comment: The 2019 2nd rounder is the better of San Jose's own or Florida's own, previously acquired. If the Sharks miss the playoffs in 2018-19, the 2019 or 2020 first-rounder will be in 2019; otherwise, it’s a 2020 first-round pick that will go to Ottawa. If the Sharks re-sign Karlsson the Senators receive a conditional second-round pick in 2021 which would become a first-round pick if the Sharks make it to the Stanley Cup Final in 2019. If Karlsson is on an Eastern Conference roster (reserve list during the 2018-19 season, the Sharks would have to send the Senators an additional first-round pick no later than 2022. The Sharks lost some potential and with all of the conditionals on the picks, they could be out a fair amount if they do or do not sign Karlsson. Aside from the named guys, they are out a 2019 2nd, a 2020 1st, and then there's the conditional picks. regards, G. Edited May 29, 2019 by Gollumpus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 So now there are rumblings the Karlssons would like to return to Ottawa? Hmm..be fine w/me! Would make this whole episode, grand larceny for the Mighty Sens! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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