canuck73_3 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 hours ago, 189lb enforcers? said: How many posts describe his actual systems and his execution of them? I’m at zero so far or did I miss some in here? Cliche, cliche, buzzword. FiRe ThE cOAcH. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, canuck73_3 said: Cliche, cliche, buzzword. FiRe ThE cOAcH. Ok, if this slump continues I believe many here need to send Pouliot and Gudbranson an apology. Defence and goalie exposed as last season. Is this something you think is good coaching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 the current votes are Yes to coaching changes (138) - (91) No coaching changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I would prefer to see a GM change. Move Benning to head of scouting and hire a GM that knows how to assess / sign effective UFA's to reasonable contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 You're missing an option on your poll. Keep Ian Clark ... No way you let Ian Clark go. He's the goalie guru... I'd keep Ian Clark and Manny Malhotra.. Fire Green and Baumer DeBoer will want to bring in his own assistant anyways let him decide on assistants. If he wants to keep Newell Brown let him if he wants both new assistants then he gets both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckster19 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I'm sick of Green, we have a great first line and it looks completely anemic most games, how many teams have managed to turn it around with a coaching change and yet here we are still doing the same old s---. If we don't make the playoffs in the next two years I'm going to be off the Benning bandwagon as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I used to defend Green, but it’s getting harder for me to do that. The systems that are currently in place do not suit the offensive players on this team, and our defensive systems are even worse. No more collapsing and giving the opposition so much time and space. We get destroyed 5v5 playing such a passive defensive system. To me Benning has put together a good team on paper. I don’t think he is the problem (He won’t be on the hot seat unless we miss the playoffs next season imo). It is up to the coaching staff and ultimately the players to execute. I think they need a new (and more experienced) voice behind the bench, and to employ an offensive strategy based on puck possession to be successful. In my opinion, Benning should let Green, Brown, and Baumgardner go. Bring in an experienced head coach and let him pick his staff, but retain Manny and Ian Clark. I think the players have lost all confidence in our systems. This team needs a shakeup in the worst way. We can still salvage this season if we act before it’s too late. As soon as the holiday roster freeze is over, pull the trigger Jim. Your team needs it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heated Blue Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said: I used to defend Green, but it’s getting harder for me to do that. The systems that are currently in place do not suit the offensive players on this team, and our defensive systems are even worse. No more collapsing and giving the opposition so much time and space. We get destroyed 5v5 playing such a passive defensive system. To me Benning has put together a good team on paper. I don’t think he is the problem (He won’t be on the hot seat unless we miss the playoffs next season imo). It is up to the coaching staff and ultimately the players to execute. I think they need a new (and more experienced) voice behind the bench, and to employ an offensive strategy based on puck possession to be successful. In my opinion, Benning should let Green, Brown, and Baumgardner go. Bring in an experienced head coach and let him pick his staff, but retain Manny and Ian Clark. I think the players have lost all confidence in our systems. This team needs a shakeup in the worst way. We can still salvage this season if we act before it’s too late. As soon as the holiday roster freeze is over, pull the trigger Jim. Your team needs it. I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately the club seems get itself into trouble being 'honorable'. My fear is they might hold onto Green and co too long and waste this season. If so then Benning will also be on the hot seat that much sooner. I hope i'm proven wrong and they make the changes needed in a timely manner and salvage this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 11/26/2019 at 12:09 AM, WCE said: hire Babcock before Seattle gets him I hope we did, he would put these lazy canucks back into the right direction ..alot hate him here, but i like him and his coaching style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screw Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 11/26/2019 at 12:09 AM, WCE said: hire Babcock before Seattle gets him and Hitchcock for assistant. Double cocks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Why didn't Friedman say this about the other coaches who got canned? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screw Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Toews said: Why didn't Friedman say this about the other coaches who got canned? Friedman is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) On 12/18/2019 at 1:39 PM, Roger Neilsons Towel said: I used to defend Green, but it’s getting harder for me to do that. The systems that are currently in place do not suit the offensive players on this team, and our defensive systems are even worse. No more collapsing and giving the opposition so much time and space. We get destroyed 5v5 playing such a passive defensive system. To me Benning has put together a good team on paper. I don’t think he is the problem (He won’t be on the hot seat unless we miss the playoffs next season imo). It is up to the coaching staff and ultimately the players to execute. I think they need a new (and more experienced) voice behind the bench, and to employ an offensive strategy based on puck possession to be successful. In my opinion, Benning should let Green, Brown, and Baumgardner go. Bring in an experienced head coach and let him pick his staff, but retain Manny and Ian Clark. I think the players have lost all confidence in our systems. This team needs a shakeup in the worst way. We can still salvage this season if we act before it’s too late. As soon as the holiday roster freeze is over, pull the trigger Jim. Your team needs it. Great points, to me it seems that Greens' future is ultimately, in the hands of the players. His legacy will be based on the team accomplishments but if the players will battle for him I believe management will keep Green (Trotz as an example, did not have an winning record till his sixth year in Nashville). Getting a new coach whether experienced or not does not guarantee much, in my opinion. Green needs to realize, then be decisive when to make the neccessary changes once the league has made there adjustments to counter his strategy - the same goes for player; whether, it be in game adjustments or during the long season. I really hope he doesn't squander this opportunity to evolve as a coach and hopefully, use this this rough stretch to help cement a real legacy as a Canuck coach (or not). Currently, Iam in a wait and see attitude right now, with Green cause this is the first year he was given a roster that is capable of competing and also, this is the first rough stretch this year, so far. Up to his players now.... Edited December 21, 2019 by ShawnAntoski 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 wow just the "Canucks need all new coaching staff." voting option alone is almost caught up to the "Canucks do not need any new coaching staff." voting option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) On 12/16/2019 at 1:33 AM, Dats hockey said: Pros and Cons of Green’s Coaching, Hmmmm what can the CDC come up with? Actually curious, can’t think of many Pros at this point but Cons -Can’t get players to play the FULL game -doesn’t match lines -doesn’t coach well with leads -Doesn’t have a good offensive scheme -Seems to always have the lines in a blender Bet you can find some pros now. If not, allow me to help out: Player's coach No mind games Good with Media Not afraid of a Run n Gun style offense Rewards the hard workers Been great developing Prospects(Petey, Jake, QH and Boeser) Now let's go over your cons: -Can’t get players to play the FULL game I disagree with this and would also argue that even if this was correct that's not on the coach. -doesn’t match lines Disagree, Horvat and Beagle's line routinely match the oppositions top lines -doesn’t coach well with leads Doesn't coach well? 'We got the lead boys but I am all out of ideas on how to win' Again I'd say that's on the players. -Doesn’t have a good offensive scheme Second highest scoring team in the West with games in hand -Seems to always have the lines in a blender If something is not working, fix it. If we're going to call out coaching when we're struggling it's only fair to praise them when we're rolling. Edited January 3, 2020 by Tre Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 12/17/2019 at 10:42 AM, Roberts said: the current votes are Yes to coaching changes (138) - (91) No coaching changes The current votes are Ridiculous "fans" 138 - smart fans 91 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Tre Mac said: Bet you can find some pros now. If not, allow me to help out: Player's coach No mind games Good with Media Not afraid of a Run n Gun style offense Rewards the hard workers Been great developing Prospects(Petey, Jake, QH and Boeser) Now let's go over your cons: -Can’t get players to play the FULL game I disagree with this and would also argue that even if this was correct that's not on the coach. -doesn’t match lines Disagree, Horvat and Beagle's line routinely match the oppositions top lines -doesn’t coach well with leads Doesn't coach well? 'We got the lead boys but I am all out of ideas on how to win' Again I'd say that's on the players. -Doesn’t have a good offensive scheme Second highest scoring team in the West with games in hand -Seems to always have the lines in a blender If something is not working, fix it. If we're going to call out coaching when we're struggling it's only fair to praise them when we're rolling. But at the time my point was valid, not saying he hasn’t stepped it up. I was super surprised yesterday that he called his timeout when we where doing bad. Growth that’s a good sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Dats hockey said: But at the time my point was valid, not saying he hasn’t stepped it up. I was super surprised yesterday that he called his timeout when we where doing bad. Growth that’s a good sign He’s had more then a couple good timeouts now. You shouldn’t be surprised nor should you live in the past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 On 12/18/2019 at 1:39 PM, Roger Neilsons Towel said: I used to defend Green, but it’s getting harder for me to do that. The systems that are currently in place do not suit the offensive players on this team, and our defensive systems are even worse. No more collapsing and giving the opposition so much time and space. We get destroyed 5v5 playing such a passive defensive system. To me Benning has put together a good team on paper. I don’t think he is the problem (He won’t be on the hot seat unless we miss the playoffs next season imo). It is up to the coaching staff and ultimately the players to execute. I think they need a new (and more experienced) voice behind the bench, and to employ an offensive strategy based on puck possession to be successful. In my opinion, Benning should let Green, Brown, and Baumgardner go. Bring in an experienced head coach and let him pick his staff, but retain Manny and Ian Clark. I think the players have lost all confidence in our systems. This team needs a shakeup in the worst way. We can still salvage this season if we act before it’s too late. As soon as the holiday roster freeze is over, pull the trigger Jim. Your team needs it. This aged well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 8:36 AM, stawns said: The current votes are Ridiculous "fans" 138 - smart fans 91 How modest of you to believe that those who agreed with you are smart and those that didn’t are ridiculous and not real fans. Does your head fit through doorways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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