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In order to give everyone as much heads up as possible, here is the tentative schedule for Round 1 of the Dispersal Draft, subject to change depending on alterations to the final standings.
You can view the Dispersal Draft page here.
Details and rules will also be posted in the Dispersal Draft thread when it is created.
April 16th - 1. @snowflake 2. @HighOnHockey
April 17th - 3. @theo5789 4. @Rush17
April 18th - 5. @Ilunga 6. @Kondor40
April 19th - 7. @Caboose / @Gally 8. @Tony Romo
April 20th - 9. @arby18_ 10. @J.I.A.H.N
April 21th - 11. @ThatMike 12. @Brettzky
April 22th - 13. @ActionJax09 14. @The Brindy Gypsy
April 23th - 15. @Primal Optimist 16. @Zenflamesfan
April 24th - 17. @Canuck Surfer 18. @Sharpshooter
April 25th - 19. @Gator 20. @Dak Prescott
April 26th - 21. @Sludge 22. @Mike Vanderhoek
April 27th - 23. @Devron 24. @lethunder
April 28th - 25. @Squeak 26. @da.moose
April 29th - 27. @Sergei Bobrovsky 28. @aGENT
April 30th - 29. @Relyt Krets 30. @canuck2xtreme
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5 minutes ago, Gator said:
Are we able to send players down without waivers to add an AHL guy to roster?
If you mean send a non-playoff player down, that isn't necessary. Just don't add him to your playoff roster.
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All playoff rosters that have been posted have been entered into the Playoff pool!
Also, all teams that missed the playoffs have had their team charts transitioned to the off-season.
Once games today have been finalized by Sunday, the Dispersal Draft will begin and Draft Lottery Phase 1 will take place.
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Winnipeg Jets playoff roster
Zach Hyman - Bo Horvat - Timo Meier
Jesper Bratt - Blake Lizotte - Jordan Eberle
Brandon Tanev - Morgan Geekie - Sam Lafferty
Jason Polin
Ryan Graves - Hampus Lindholm
Ryan Pulock - Erik JohnsonZach Whitecloud - Nick Perbix
Adin Hill
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Playoff rosters can be posted anytime, so remember to get your roster submitted!
Also remember that for a player to be eligible, they have to be listed on your roster prior to the playoffs. So if you have black aces, make sure to add them, or you won't be able to add them to the active roster for subsequent rounds.
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INJURED RESERVE: The Winnipeg Jets have placed Zach Whitecloud on injured reserve.
IR ACTIVATION: The Winnipeg Jets have activated Erik Johnson from injured reserve.
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13 hours ago, Sharpshooter said:
Boston is now only 14 points behind Toronto.
Pickup says 12...
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2 minutes ago, arby18_ said:
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Activity Check! Please reply to this message to let me know you're still here!
@Kondor40 @Canuck Surfer @arby18_ @ThatMike @Primal Optimist @theo5789 @The Brindy Gypsy
@Squeak @Sludge @aGENT @J.I.A.H.N @Dak Prescott @Sergei Bobrovsky @Devron
@Tony Romo @HighOnHockey @Mike Vanderhoek @Brettzky @Rush17 @ActionJax09 @da.moose
@Sharpshooter@lethunder@Ilunga @Caboose @snowflake @Zenflamesfan @Relyt Krets @Gator-
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1 minute ago, Sharpshooter said:
There was a vote?
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Dispersal Draft Details
With the league wide vote at a decisive 18-0 in favour of running the Dispersal Draft, the league will be conducting the Dispersal Draft upon the conclusion of the regular season. Each team will get to select twice during this Dispersal draft. The draft will run in reverse standings order, and then repeat the same order for the second round. All assets from the Anaheim Ducks and New York Islanders will be available to be selected.
You can view the Dispersal Draft Page here.
The Dispersal Draft will begin on Sunday April 16th.
- A new thread will be created for this draft, just as with the Entry Draft.
- We will schedule 2 teams per day to make their selection so teams will have a heads up about roughly when their turn will be up. GMs will still be tagged in the thread.
NOTE: If both teams scheduled for a day have made their selections in their turns and your team is next, you are permitted to select immediately, but no team will be considered to have missed their pick until their assigned day has passed.- Teams are permitted to pass on their chance to select a player by posting 'pass' in the Dispersal Draft thread when it is their turn.
- There will be NO make up picks if a team misses their assigned day.
- No trading of Dispersal draft selection order is permitted. Teams may select a player and trade them after the fact if they desire, but there will be no trades to effect the order of selection.
- When selecting a player, your team inherits the players current GML contract, including clauses.- Pending UFA/RFAs are eligible to be selected. All pending UFAs will be open to the idea of an extension, but as always, contract terms, money and fit with the team (especially fit) must make sense. There is an element of risk with selecting a pending UFA, as there is no guarantee that they will sign an extension.
- Any players who are still left after 2 rounds will be released to Unrestricted Free Agency.
- Any players selected in the Dispersal draft are ineligible for the 2023 Playoffs.
- Any 2023 Entry Draft selections are also available to be selected.
- For the 2024 Entry Draft, only the Anaheim 2nd round draft selection is be effected. That selection will be placed in the very middle of the 2nd round for the team that holds that draft selection.Please let me know if you have any questions asap! Thank you.
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CDCGML Playoffs Round 1
(Projected Matchups)
Western Conference
W2. St. Louis vs C1. Winnipeg
C3. Nashville vs C2. Colorado
W1. Arizona vs P1. Edmonton
P3. Vegas vs P2. Seattle
Eastern ConferenceW2.
Ottawa vs A1. Tampa Bay
A3. Toronto vs A2. Buffalo
W1. Boston vs M1. Washington
M3. Pittsburgh vs M2. New Jersey
Looks like this is how the playoffs will sort out, unless Boston can catch Toronto for that third Atlantic Division playoff slot! The rest of the series appear to be set!
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I just want to see Petey get to 100 points. So as long as he gets points, I don't care if we win or lose at this point. They already went on their hot streak to take them out of Bedard sweeps, so what's another spot or two at this point?
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On 4/4/2023 at 10:41 PM, Canuck Surfer said:
A) Has this been consolidated? For @Gator's benefit, decided without getting overly excited about beach bums.
Propose specified dates versus within 24 hours last pick. I'm off travelling and its much easier to manage than have several turns jump in a day. If necessary 2 picks per day. It also helps due to always having a time difference, and in my case it will be rotating. It has worked really well in other league's, except for @Primal Optimist who is always anxious for his turn...
I wonder if it would work well if we did a hybrid. So a specific date for teams so they have a heads up well in advance (2 teams per day as you suggest), but say the teams from one day have both already chosen and team X is up first tomorrow, team X could select immediately if they would like, and so on. That way teams can draft faster if they'd like, but a team wouldn't miss unless their assigned day passes?
Downside to that is we could get it moving decently and then it could stall for days waiting for someone's day. But it's not like we don't have 2 months to get it done anyways.
Thoughts everyone?
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CDCGML Standings Update!
(as of April 6, 2023 @ 7:58am)
* = denotes Wild Card
Western ConferenceCentral Division
1.
Winnipeg - 6334
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Colorado - 6056
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Nashville - 5807
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Arizona - 5629*
5. St. Louis - 5484*
6. Minnesota - 5256
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Chicago - 5215
8. Dallas - 3918
Pacific Division1.
Edmonton - 4982
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Seattle - 4903
3. Vegas - 4742
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4. Anaheim - 4224
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San Jose - 4020
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Los Angeles - 3842
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Vancouver - 3464
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Calgary - 3456
Eastern Conference
Atlantic Division
1.
Tampa Bay - 6170
2.
Buffalo - 5591
3.
Toronto - 5068
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Boston - 4997*
5. Ottawa - 4884*
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Florida - 3669
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Detroit - 3478
8.
Montreal - 2327
Metropolitan Division
1.
Washington - 5689
2.
New Jersey - 5417
3. Pittsburgh - 4652
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NY Islanders - 4418
5. NY Rangers - 4012
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Carolina - 3812
7. Philadelphia - 3490
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Columbus - 3241
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24 minutes ago, aGENT said:
Sorry, having trouble hearing either of you from way up here in the top 3. You'll have to speak up.
He'd be 8th in our division... just saying....
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Even if it were straight up, I'd say no to that one. We need cap space. Taking on 4 more years of Risto at $5.1 million is a bad idea for a team needing to clear cap space.
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49 minutes ago, Gator said:
Are we allowed to skip picks? Assuming I'm drafting last because I'm winning this thing I don't want to get stuck with a terrible contract!
Reverse regular season standings order.
And if you want to pass on selecting someone, you can do so.
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53 minutes ago, Primal Optimist said:
It does seem the exec has made up its mind, which is very much understandable.
Anaheim has 32 players right now but 8 of them expire as UFA's in a couple weeks
The Islanders have 29 (7 of them unsigned draftees) players right now but 6 of them expire as UFA's in a couple weeks
61 total players minus the 14 expiring deals is 47 total players with rights beyond this summer.
So if we do two rounds of pics that would grab pretty much all the guys: so is the plan to let the pending UFA's go to free agency AND THEN draft from the remaining? Or draft including the pending UFA's?
We could stick the unsigned draftees back into this coming summer draft, even if the three 2021 draftees would be considered overagers, there are only three of them...
that would bring the total of contracted guys down to 40: one round of picks and the final ten have their deals voided and they go to UFA this summ?
Just a suggestion to make the impact the lowest possible on the existing clubs. One pick each is very low impact on our cap situations and each club can pretty much pick from cheap to expensive or i presume opt not to pick anyone at all and trade their pick to another club?
I am just spitballing ideas, because if all 61 players and then all the draft picks go to the diispersal draft, that is at least 2 assets going to each club and whereas this is an unforseen situation even up to after the deadline: no one had a chance to work on freeing up cap space except for those in the know about the future planning for these vacant teams.... which isn't ideal, but then none of this is. SO yeah, just spitballing ideas.
edit for notes: looks like just 8 RFA players on Anaheim, and 14 including the unsigned draft picks with the isles
Final edit: I could, relatively quickly, work out a fair simple 30 dispersal draft eligible guys from each roster by using NHL RFA status: simply voiding the draft picks each of the two defunct teams currently owns and putting their draftees back into this coming GML entry draft. From above notes there would be roughly 25 such RFA status players currently under contact between the two clubs and simply round up to 30 total by birth date. the youngest assets NOT considered RFA's by the NHL rules after April 14th are included in the dispersal draft until there are 30 total assets to be drafted: everyone else goes to free agency this summer?
Again this would mitigate the total impact down to the lowest possible fair level of one pick each in reverse standings order. let me know what you think and I would be happy to get to work on such a list which would be transparent, fair but not onerous on our already stretched caps and also have an added bonus of putting some great players in the summer UFA mix for clubs to bid on like we would normally do with UFA's.
if your minds are set and you have it figured, please just say so and I will do what ever the deal is when the time comes.
All players and draft picks currently held by Anaheim and the NY Islanders would be available, regardless of contract status.
I think you're trying to galaxy brain it with the RFA status and here's who makes the cut for dispersal and these guys are released and these guys are back into the draft. I think that keeping it relatively simple is the best course. Anyone who is on either of those teams right now should be up for selection.
Now, if we want to consider releasing the unsigned picks back to the draft before dispersal and/or only doing one round of dispersal and having any players not selected become UFAs, that's something we can look at if the membership would prefer that setup. Under the outline I posted on Saturday, unselected players would be released to UFA anyways. If the membership would prefer only doing one round instead of two, that's totally fine.
As far as salary cap considerations goes, no team has to choose a player, nor do they have to choose a high priced one if they don't want to. As noted in the original post, teams have the right to decline a player and 'pass' their turn. And everyone is pretty much getting the information on this at the same time, and was only initially discussed after the trade deadline, so no team was 'in the know' and had any more time to prepare or plan than anyone else.
As far as 'trading' their pick, there is no trading of dispersal draft picks. You could work out a deal beforehand, select a player and then trade that player (assuming the player doesn't have trade protection) but in the interest of keeping things as straightforward and fair as possible, the dispersal draft order would not be altered by trades.
The reason pending UFA players were included in the draft is because teams may want to add that player, and have an oppourtunity to do so before having to join a bidding war in the summer. There are several significant players about to go to UFA in this list. It adds an element of strategy as well. Do you take the pending UFA, betting that you can get him signed? Or do you go with someone where you have more team control? Or, if you don't know who to pick and are concerned about your cap situation, you can take a pending UFA, and if between now and July 1st you can't make it work cap wise, the player goes to UFA and there's no impact to the team at all. Or you could take an undrafted prospect, or a signed prospect, or select one of the available draft picks. There's lots of options for teams who have an eye more on cap management than adding a player.
While I can appreciate the whole summer UFA mix part, that's also what usually drives salary costs way up, which would run contrary to the salary cap point. It also removes some impact players from the process and that takes away from the oppourtunity we have to give the lower end teams a boost by being able to secure a strong player without having to hope free agency breaks their way, and keeps the salaries the same rather than grossly inflated.
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On 4/2/2023 at 3:18 AM, Ilunga said:
I have been explained this format of fantasy to the guys, and gals, that I play fantasy AFL with and they love this concept.
We have nothing like this for AFL.
The only trouble is they know nothing about hockey or the intricacies of contract negotiations.
In regards to AFL we have a site fan footy
That tracks the points live for each game.
It also has a chat section were you can interact with other fantasy addicts, scroll down from the game stats and you can see it.
It's a fantastic fantasy resource and community.
I know only asses sume, however I assume when you state reverse order teams at the bottom of the standing draft first, then after the 30 pick do we start over or is it a snake draft.
Reverse standings order each round. So Last place thru to first place, and then last place thru to first place again.
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6 hours ago, Primal Optimist said:
End of the day, you gotta do what you gotta do, I hope every GM will fish hard for two more players as the proposed solution is drastic and almost irreversable: yeah we could have an 'expansion draft' when we find new GM's but the far more likely result is more shrinkage in six months or a year, eventually spiraling to a defunct league. Not being dramatic: as most of you know I am a retired federal and military spook with deep training in analysis, not that you need that to see that this solution solves the immediate vacancies problem, but doesn't solve the long term issue of attrition. By far the best outcome would be that we all put in some work to try to find two more players. I would suggest also that perhaps teams of three GM's for each vacant club take on the job of caretaking; it would keep the clubs current and in good standing, and able to draft, while a triumverate of governance would keep shenanigans to a minimum and keep dealings above board. At least two, but three is better. If the exec is sure none of these suggestions will solve the issue: I am fine with contraction if that is the final choice. ((i too hope that a plan to hold an expansion draft is on the backend of that plan for when we do find new GM's. Without new blood, this league like all the others will die sooner than later.)) That is all i got, not looking to argue, just my two cents.
Thanks for your input PO.
I wouldn't consider it 'irreversable'. If we have more interest we can expand and re-add those teams. As for further reducing the league, we are in no way suggesting this would be the play every time there is an opening. But these are long term openings and at this point, without GMs, they're going to lose more UFAs, miss more draft picks etc.
As for the idea of other GMs forming factions to limp these teams along, all I will say is personally I agree with Mike's take on that.
We will continue to attempt to find GMs and re-expand if we are able to as soon as 2024-25.
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22 hours ago, Sharpshooter said:
What if we eventually find more GMs?
Will there be an expansion draft?
Maybe we can all pull our contacts lists together and give it one last go at recruiting?
Exactly. If there is further interest, we will have expansion drafts, which as theo mentioned, might be more palatable being able to build your own team rather than take on one on life support.
As for recruiting, if you guys can find us 2 GMs, that's of course the ideal solution. So if we have anyone, send them my way. But without GMs, Dispersal is the likely path.
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On 4/1/2023 at 12:52 PM, ActionJax09 said:
So can the 2023 and 2024 draft picks be selected in the draft?
2023 picks yes, 2024 picks no, as there will be no accurate place to put them in without the teams playing the season. The only 2024 pick that had been moved is one second rounder, which would be placed in the middle of the 2nd round.
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As I'm sure we are all aware, the past several seasons, the GML has consistently seemed to have one or two teams that have coasted through a season without a GM while we tried to fill vacancies. This has resulted in those teams significantly weakened through lack of upkeep, hampered league activity and left some players stuck on rudderless teams. While we have made great efforts to fill those vacancies, as we move into the critical off-season time, we can no longer float these teams along without GMs to guide them without significant league intervention that would amount to the exec group leading 'puppet' teams, which has far more downside than upside. We have contacted over 80 people in an attempt to fill these positions and have had no luck.
With that in mind, the executive group is considering the unfortunate measure of declaring the New York Islanders and Anaheim Ducks franchises, both currently still without a General Manager, as defunct franchises as of the end of the regular season on April 14th. We would reduce to 30 active teams from that point forward.
The league would conduct a Dispersal Draft to fairly spread the talent from those two clubs around the league. The draft would run in reverse standings order, and assets from the Anaheim Ducks and New York Islanders will be available to be selected. There are 65 total assets available to be selected, so each team would get to select twice during this Dispersal draft. Details are in the spoiler below.
SpoilerThe Dispersal Draft would begin on Saturday April 16th.
- A new thread would be created for this draft, just as with the Entry Draft.
- Teams would have 24 hours from the point where they are tagged in the thread to make their selection.
- Teams would be permitted to pass on their chance to select a player by posting 'pass' in the Dispersal Draft thread when it is their turn.
- There would be NO make up picks if a team misses their 24 hour window unless prior arrangements have been properly made ahead of time (i.e. - away on holidays AND have spoken to c2x or MV prior to their selection coming up).
- No trading of Dispersal draft selection order would be permitted. Teams may select a player and trade them after the fact if they desire, but there would be no trades to effect the order of selection.
- When selecting a player, your team would inherit the players current GML contract, including clauses.- Pending UFA/RFAs would be eligible to be selected. All pending UFAs would be open to the idea of an extension, but as always, contract terms, money and fit with the team (especially fit) must make sense. There is an element of risk with selecting a pending UFA, as there is no guarantee that they will sign an extension.
- Any players who are still left after 2 rounds would be considered UFAs beginning July 1st.
- Any players selected in the Dispersal draft would be ineligible for the 2023 Playoffs.
- For the 2024 Entry Draft, only the Anaheim 2nd round draft selection would be effected. That selection would be placed in the middle of the 2nd round for the team that holds that draft selection.Obviously this is not the ideal situation, but I personally believe that we would be better served focusing on improving the experience for the GMs that are still here, rather than leaving two teams rudderless or being ran as puppet teams by the league, which obviously presents it's own myriad of issues. We're looking to turn an untenable situation into a positive for the league.
Please react to this post to this post in the following methods to cast your vote:- React with a heart to vote in favour of holding the Dispersal Draft
- React with a rough game to vote against holding the Dispersal Draft
I would like to welcome your comments, suggestions, questions or concerns in this matter as well. I am off to work but will reply this afternoon when I am able.
Thank you.
Also, no, this is not an April fools joke. Just the way the timing worked out.
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Minnesota - 5256
Chicago - 5215
Dallas - 3918
Anaheim - 4224
San Jose - 4020
Los Angeles - 3842
Vancouver - 3464
Calgary - 3456
Florida - 3669
Detroit - 3478
Montreal - 2327
NY Islanders - 4418
NY Rangers - 4012
Carolina - 3812
Philadelphia - 3490
Columbus - 3241
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You can't discuss early extensions with pending UFA's unless they're part of your organization. So you'd have to draft them first.
All pending UFAs or RFAs will be open to the idea of an extension, but it still must be a fair deal, in terms of length, dollars and especially fit.
So if a team has say, 7 NHL defencemen already, at least 4 of which are top 4 guys, and 7 more in the minors, maybe Drew Doughty isn't the right selection for them. The argument of "we picked you in the dispersal draft" will not hold weight.