Gross-Misconduct Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Kassian sure gets a long leash from his fans for a high 1st round pick who can't get off the 3rd line. Anyways, the 'kid' is looking better. If we all look at his progress in baby-steps perhaps we will all agree that he's a future star in the making. I dont buy it. A 3rd liner capable of 15-20 goals is what he is. Set the bar low for this 'kid' like I have and you won't be dissapointed. I imagine if Zach scores tonight in back 2 back games his fans will be preparing a spot for him in the Canucks Ring of Honour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Kassian sure gets a long leash from his fans for a high 1st round pick who can't get off the 3rd line. Anyways, the 'kid' is looking better. If we all look at his progress in baby-steps perhaps we will all agree that he's a future star in the making. I dont buy it. A 3rd liner capable of 15-20 goals is what he is. Set the bar low for this 'kid' like I have and you won't be dissapointed. I imagine if Zach scores tonight in back 2 back games his fans will be preparing a spot for him in the Canucks Ring of Honour. Reading through this thread it is clear where you stand on Kassian. Lately he has been playing fairly well on the 3rd line and maybe one day he will be a good option on the 2nd. Maybe not a star in the making, but still able to impact games several different ways. It's also clear in this thread where I value Kassian on this team. He doesn't belong with the twins because no one on that line would be able to go get the puck. Burr does well with them because of the strong forecheck and ability to get the puck and be open for the pass. When things slow down and strength is at a premium in the playoffs, that's where Kassian will prove more valuable. We're at 26 pages so far, pretty sure we'll go well over 250 with this thread. You don't always have to use your powers for evil Gross-Misconduct, good is an option, especially this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kassquatchian Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Kass robbed by stuart there. Great start for the 3rd liner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Kassian sure gets a long leash from his fans for a high 1st round pick who can't get off the 3rd line. Lol. Cause 23 year old first round picks never start off on the third line right? Can't think of any good ones that couldn't "get of the 3rd line" at his age... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Kassian sure gets a long leash from his fans for a high 1st round pick who can't get off the 3rd line. Anyways, the 'kid' is looking better. If we all look at his progress in baby-steps perhaps we will all agree that he's a future star in the making. I dont buy it. A 3rd liner capable of 15-20 goals is what he is. Set the bar low for this 'kid' like I have and you won't be dissapointed. I imagine if Zach scores tonight in back 2 back games his fans will be preparing a spot for him in the Canucks Ring of Honour. I could turn around and say others have Kassian strapped to their back and have no leash at all. They think that because Kassian was a first round pick (and he was drafted 13th overall so not even a high one), that he should be scoring 80 points a season within his first 2 seasons. I just think there are a lot of Canuck fans that stress too much over him. They don't see what THEY want to see and so he sucks in their eyes. They simply don't look at things perspectively. They don't take into consideration the development of the player. They simply expect him to instantly play to "their standards" right away. He might as well be dressed in chocolate for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kassquatchian Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 2nd line minutes for the kid.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Account Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I am glad we got Zack . Hodgson was a headache and didnt want to play 3rd line minutes here. /end thread The rumour was we could have got Johansson. I am glad we got rid of Cody but I don't think we should have got Zack, Cody was playing pretty well when we traded him so i imagine his value was pretty high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 um... lol? 1. When you're talking about the intangibles like smarts, it's not based on fact. It's based on opinion. You cannot mathematically say someone's smarter than someone else. IQ tests only test you on how good you are at doing IQ tests. Some people are smart with school, while ther people are smart with fixing vehicles, etc. 2. Most of Kassians skill is natural. Most of Hodgson's skill comes from his smarts. You can't really compare the 2 to begin with. 3. If we want to start talking about intangibles and throwing the first 2 statements out the window, then, in my opinion, the only things Hodgson is better at than Kassian is smarts. He's not better at skating, grit, fights, size, or pure skill. When Hodgson is not producing points, he's a pylon. Plus 1 for you sir. . This is the actual fact. He is just too small and too slow to be effective in any other way. In fact its the bane of his existence. Its the downfall that will haunt him forever. Hodgson is so skilled that if he was a step faster he would be as good as Tavares. If he was a step faster than that he would be as good as Stamkos. If Hodgson was as fast as Stamkos, the draft would have been Stamkos Doughty Hodgson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 waddup haterzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppleJack Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Kass had another good game, him and boothy really seem to be clicking and did you guys see that sick pass he made to Tanev that resulted in that awesome goal- it was like the boys were communicating using esp or something, it was sweet. Got to like seeing that kind of play from two of our young guys. I think part of the problem with not only Kass but our team before Torts came in and whipped them into shape was a little something called Chemistry. The canucks are playing like a team again- like they are all in it together and Kass seems to be stepping up and fullfilling his part in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Great game by Kassian tonight. Robbed of a highlight goal be Stuart. Set up bieksa who just missed the net with a glorious opportunity earlier in the game and great vision finding tanev, put it right on his stick. He was out there to bat the puck out over the blueline with a minute to go and even when he made a turnover earlier in the game he hustled back to break up the rush. If kass could put up this effort every night even the biggest haters and CoHo fans would have to be dead silent. That's a big if though and I'm not holding my breath for it to happen this season. I am however pleased with his gradual improvement and am very optimistic that within 3 years he will be a 40-50pt physical force who plays good 2 way hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Lets put it this way. If we didnt know who Kassian was and all of a sudden saw him play tonight, wouldnt everyone would be asking who the kid was? When they found out he was only 22, wouldnt they be then very excited to see what he can do at 25? I think the overwhelming majority would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prana16 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Kassian is on our team, He is getting noticeably better every game, he is less of a defensive liability. Hodgson is not on our team, we couldn't have afforded Hodgson's contract, he's closer to his family. Let it go. The endless obsessing over a guy who left the team 2 years ago is not only sad but pathetic and kind of troubling. How often do some of you drive by the workplace of ex girlfriends? I mean really.... The funny thing is, the people that likely plus 1'd your post are the people like absent canuck that mention hodgson in his posts and slag him constantly.. so who is it that is really obsessed with him exactly? You cannot criticize zack kassian here without being called a hodgson lover... or without someone retorting.. well hodgson sucks.. or he's a headache.. when you respond to that with how totally absurd it is.. then again you are a hodgson lover. The Kassian "lovers" need to take a good long look in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prana16 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 um... lol? 1. When you're talking about the intangibles like smarts, it's not based on fact. It's based on opinion. You cannot mathematically say someone's smarter than someone else. IQ tests only test you on how good you are at doing IQ tests. Some people are smart with school, while ther people are smart with fixing vehicles, etc. 2. Most of Kassians skill is natural. Most of Hodgson's skill comes from his smarts. You can't really compare the 2 to begin with. 3. If we want to start talking about intangibles and throwing the first 2 statements out the window, then, in my opinion, the only things Hodgson is better at than Kassian is smarts. He's not better at skating, grit, fights, size, or pure skill. When Hodgson is not producing points, he's a pylon. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=106835 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zack_Kassian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cody_Hodgson http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=96546 Cody Hodgson is a better hockey player than Zack Kassian by every objective measure. Sorry. Its the exact same... Henrik Sedin is a better Hockey player than Chris Higgins by every objective measure... funny you don't argue that as being just my opinion. but ya Zack has dem intangibles that have won us lots of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I think Zack will be more useful to us long run than cody would have been. Cody has skill, but he doesn't have will. Gotta have that will to win, and Zack is starting to show that effort that gets you W's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I like what Torts is doing for Kassain letting him play a year without the top 6 minutes learning how to play without the puck and that is key for kassains development. As I can tell a difference in Kass game. I been seeing him play great defensively of late always getting back. This kid is far from a bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 http://www.hockeydb.....php?pid=106835 http://en.wikipedia....ki/Zack_Kassian http://en.wikipedia....ki/Cody_Hodgson http://www.hockeydb....y.php?pid=96546 Cody Hodgson is a better hockey player than Zack Kassian by every objective measure. Sorry. Its the exact same... Henrik Sedin is a better Hockey player than Chris Higgins by every objective measure... funny you don't argue that as being just my opinion. but ya Zack has dem intangibles that have won us lots of games. Here's an intangible for ya: Health. While Cody's out nursing a broken finger, lol, Kassian assisted on a game-winner. To be better at the game, ya first have to be IN the game, champ. Edit: I spelled chump, but i meant champ. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey21383 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 The only things stopping Kassian from being a force is his defensive play and his confidence (although he looked good tonight) Defensive play can be taught and once that happens Torts can trust him, therefore giving him confidence and that would lead to him playing with Sedins. Its only a matter of time for the kid. It will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Best player on the ice tonight. Go canucks go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro17 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 http://www.hockeydb.....php?pid=106835 http://en.wikipedia....ki/Zack_Kassian http://en.wikipedia....ki/Cody_Hodgson http://www.hockeydb....y.php?pid=96546 Cody Hodgson is a better hockey player than Zack Kassian by every objective measure. Sorry. Its the exact same... Henrik Sedin is a better Hockey player than Chris Higgins by every objective measure... funny you don't argue that as being just my opinion. but ya Zack has dem intangibles that have won us lots of games. Nope, Kassian is bigger and has more defensive ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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