bobbyg43 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 That is overpayment at its finest, what a terrible deal that would be. If the Canucks are looking to acquire Ladd then the highest I would go is Gaunce, Sauve, Booth, 2nd (Conditional) and 4th Round Pick. Keep Horvat and Shinkaruk, put them on the team next year and watch them impress us. Edited by Sydney Fife, Yesterday, 11:52 PM. I would say nix he idea of trade for ladd an keep Horvat he will be destined to be a 2 r 3 centre of the future when Sedins twilight out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 We'll definitely take Ladd, but it won't be for one of our top prospects. Jensen, a mid level prospect and a pick is about all I'd offer. Yup. Maybe one of our redundant third/fourth liners could be subbed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzy Desjardins Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Remember at the beginning of the year there was a report saying both Bo and hunter were going to stay with the team; and then later on were sent down. That tells me how close they are. Especially Horvat, shink might have regressed a bit from a season ending injury. Not going anywhere. Lots of other pieces to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I hope our 3rd line looks like this next year... Higgins-Horvat-Burrows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Stanley Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 edler and Schroeder for ROR (add if we need to) Kesler ROR kassian Sedin Sedin Burrows Higgins Horvat Santorelli Sestito Richardsson Hansen Hmmer Girardi Garrison Bieksa Stanton Tanev Luongo Lack this would be a more competitive team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I am really surprised with how many people are still wanting to trade away assets for a crack at the cup this season. 15 Mil in cap space (including Booth buy out) to sign 7 players. And only Kassian, Schroeder,Dalpe, Santorelli and Tanev being the big fish to handle on our end. Lots could happen before season's end, but I have to guess that Dalpe will be gone, Santorelli is Touch and go for next season, I imagine. With Horvat, Schroeder and Gaunce vying for center spots, the best I can see Santorelli being is a utility guy. He obviously isn't going to be signed as a top 6 forward. If he is, this team is in trouble! Kassian's salary won't breach 2 mil and Tanev or one of the top 4 we currently have will be gone, so there's a spot for Corrado either way. sedin-sedin-? Burr-Kes-Kass Higgins-?-Hansen ?-Richardson-? ? Hammer-Bieksa Eddie-Garry Stanton-Tanev/Corrado ?-? Assuming it's going to take about 7 mil to take care of the question mark slots (excluding the one beside the Sedins) and Kassian, that leaves the team with 8 million to spend!!! That's where we stand right now...Umm, yep, let's wait to spend the awesome accumulated young assets until next season. Because THAT is when you spend them! This team will be so freaking stacked. Fill the gaps next season, MG!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 We'll definitely take Ladd, but it won't be for one of our top prospects. Jensen, a mid level prospect and a pick is about all I'd offer. I think Gaunce, Hansen, and a 2nd is something Winnipeg might consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bobbyg43 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 am really surprised with how many people are still wanting to trade away assets for a crack at the cup this season. 15 Mil in cap space (including Booth buy out) to sign 7 players. And only Kassian, Schroeder,Dalpe, Santorelli and Tanev being the big fish to handle on our end. Lots could happen before season's end, but I have to guess that Dalpe will be gone, Santorelli is Touch and go for next season, I imagine. With Horvat, Schroeder and Gaunce vying for center spots, the best I can see Santorelli being is a utility guy. He obviously isn't going to be signed as a top 6 forward. If he is, this team is in trouble! Kassian's salary won't breach 2 mil and Tanev or one of the top 4 we currently have will be gone, so there's a spot for Corrado either way. sedin-sedin-? Burr-Kes-Kass Higgins-?-Hansen ?-Richardson-? ? Hammer-Bieksa Eddie-Garry Stanton-Tanev/Corrado ?-? Assuming it's going to take about 7 mil to take care of the question mark slots (excluding the one beside the Sedins) and Kassian, that leaves the team with 8 million to spend!!! That's where we stand right now...Umm, yep, let's wait to spend the awesome accumulated young assets until next season. Because THAT is when you spend them! This team will be so freaking stacked. Fill the gaps next season, MG!!!! Horvat is considered most NHL ready of the prospects who can or may fill some of the holes .Schoeder gives us some team speed on a third or fourth line they would be lighting up other teams 3rd an fourth lines put him on line with Kassian an another two way speedster perhaps Burrows on this line an they will be a very impressive result line ,this opens up options this summer or fa to sign another perhaps Kane or ott type younger version O'Rielly. this team would have both young blood home blood an veteran presence on team an could possibly compete an maybe get out of west otherwise its a long long wait,Treveor Linden it has been long time to start young Jr player we should do this with Horvat an put him out with Kessler that line could rock,if they get any KAne,O'Rielly or even Stastny that line would be deadly in first or second line ,instant scoring depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 So I've kindly breezed through pages 7 8 9 at the Canucks.com/forum. this is my conclusion. Canucks fans are delusional. At least most of them that chill out around here. Bunch of monkeys and clowns. Here we are..... calling for Mike Gillis's head, because he's not making trades! He's not making trades to boost offence! Here we are a bunch idiots whinning and calling out Mike Gillis for not making trades to add good players!. Meanwhile the same forum, canucks.com forums, the same fanbase who is calling out Mike Gillis for not making any trades, but are the same idiots who are complaining about not wanting to give up anything of significant value, in such case, it will be costing us, our top prospects, and probably included a 1st round pick! Yes, our top prospects! So in conclusion, you clowns are only happy if Mike Gillis trades for a top player without giving up anything more then a Brendan Gaunce or something ridiculous. Canucks fans are laughable. Truly a one of a kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 So I've kindly breezed through pages 7 8 9 at the Canucks.com/forum. this is my conclusion. Canucks fans are delusional. At least most of them that chill out around here. Bunch of monkeys and clowns. Here we are..... calling for Mike Gillis's head, because he's not making trades! He's not making trades to boost offence! Here we are a bunch idiots whinning and calling out Mike Gillis for not making trades to add good players!. Meanwhile the same forum, canucks.com forums, the same fanbase who is calling out Mike Gillis for not making any trades, but are the same idiots who are complaining about not wanting to give up anything of significant value, in such case, it will be costing us, our top prospects, and probably included a 1st round pick! Yes, our top prospects! So in conclusion, you clowns are only happy if Mike Gillis trades for a top player without giving up anything more then a Brendan Gaunce or something ridiculous. Canucks fans are laughable. Truly a one of a kind. I know, it's mind boggling. The Islanders wanted more grit because they felt they had enough scoring power, so they traded Nino Niederreiter (prospect and 5th overall pick in 2010) for Cal Clutterbuck. Yet, Canuck fans think they would be able to get Evander Kane (22 years old) or Andrew Ladd (28 years old) who are far more valuable players than Clutterbuck, for scrub prospects. Unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 So I've kindly breezed through pages 7 8 9 at the Canucks.com/forum. this is my conclusion. Canucks fans are delusional. At least most of them that chill out around here. Bunch of monkeys and clowns. Here we are..... calling for Mike Gillis's head, because he's not making trades! He's not making trades to boost offence! Here we are a bunch idiots whinning and calling out Mike Gillis for not making trades to add good players!. Meanwhile the same forum, canucks.com forums, the same fanbase who is calling out Mike Gillis for not making any trades, but are the same idiots who are complaining about not wanting to give up anything of significant value, in such case, it will be costing us, our top prospects, and probably included a 1st round pick! Yes, our top prospects! So in conclusion, you clowns are only happy if Mike Gillis trades for a top player without giving up anything more then a Brendan Gaunce or something ridiculous. Canucks fans are laughable. Truly a one of a kind. I am gonna call it the Django theory. We don't wanna get rid of the first best prospect, or the second. The third, we don't want to either, but if an offer comes this way in which we can't refuse, we will gladly see it through. I am more in the boat of trading the redundant players and open the gates for the youth next year. If the right deal comes up for a top prospect, of course it will be considered. And for everyone else thinking the Detroit model works still...nope. Not really. I think we all saw Brandon Saad last night. Sometimes you gotta learn to run before you can walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownky Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I've held the thought that we should be offloading our older established talent for younger players / picks. We should not be trading for scoring, but rather trading away the now-dead weight. Gillis might want to be greedy for the return, but in some cases the cap space and a free roster spot IS the return (David Booth comes to mind... Edler is falling into that list too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Stanley Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Kesler, schroeder , 2nd for Mantha, Nyquist, 2014 1st Edler, Hansen, Jensen for ROR, 3rd sign Girardi as UFA or engineer a trade for him, Mallet, Tommernes, one of our 2 2014 1sts Sedin Sedin Burrows Higgins ROR Kassian Santo Horvat Nyquist Sestito Richardsson Lain Hammer Girardi Garrison Bieksa Stanton Tanev Andersson Corrado future - mantha, shinky, gaunce, cassels, fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I've held the thought that we should be offloading our older established talent for younger players / picks. We should not be trading for scoring, but rather trading away the now-dead weight. Gillis might want to be greedy for the return, but in some cases the cap space and a free roster spot IS the return (David Booth comes to mind... Edler is falling into that list too) Edler still has quite a bit of worth. Booth has literally zero. Nobody would pick him up on waivers. No trading partners for Booth. I mean, maybe the Leafs would trade Clarkson's terrible contract at this point for Booth's, but that's going from the frying pan into the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Stanley Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 future Manthan ROR Kassian Sinkaririk Horvat Nyquist Gaunce Cassels Fox Sestito Richardsson Burrows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Stanley Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Edler still has quite a bit of worth. Booth has literally zero. Nobody would pick him up on waivers. No trading partners for Booth. I mean, maybe the Leafs would trade Clarkson's terrible contract at this point for Booth's, but that's going from the frying pan into the fire. not sure why we don't just send booth home. With his injury history, I bet he gets injured long term and then we cannot buy him out again, severely impairing our capacity to sign UFAs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I think people need to understand the reality of it all. Edler can and should be shopped at the trade deadline for premium return. Hansen as well. In a shallow draft Edler is worth either multiple picks or a pick and solid prospect for a team stocking up for a solid run. Before people go afire saying no he isn't. Shut up and look at historical value for trades during the deadline. Gaustad got a 1st round pick and if you're saying Edler isn't worth gaustad you need to go watch baseball Hansen as well is worth a minimum of a late 1st round pick or a 2nd and 3rd to a team wanting solid 3rd/4th line players in a shallow draft. Again it is what the market will bare. Off season we need to look at Luongo and decide if he will submit his list of teams and go from there attempting to garner a solid return. Lack can handle the load, 3 of the last 4 cup winners have done it with young relatively inexperienced goalies. Booth will eat a compliance buyout and we can fill the holes we just made via stop gap UFA signings and one genuine top 6 player. With multiple picks in 2014 and or 2015 as well as a prospect or two we should be able to retool and have a solid player enter the line up every year from Utica for the next 3 or 4 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I would do booth for clarkson in a heart beat Ewwww why. That production, age and cap hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeydew Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I would do booth for clarkson in a heart beat And take on an extra 1.75m per year? No thanks LOL, rather have Booth's 1 more year of contract then UFA then to have Clarkson's multi-year contract that doesn't help us at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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