canucklehead44 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I am about a week late but just noticed hockeysfuture released a new list for our top prospects:http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/104917/bo-horvat-takes-over-as-top-prospect-in-vancouver-canucks-top-20/Notable prospects:http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospect-rankings/vancouver-canucks-other-notable-prospects/page/1While the list isn't great it is nice to see that we have a solid group of prospects. In previous lists we didn't even have 20. Plus there are guys like Lain and Welsh who actually dressed for games yet didn't crack the main list.As for the list, I think Schroeder, Labate, Andersson, Sauve, and Mallet are too high. Shinkaruk, Subban, Fox, Hutton, and Archibald too low. Here is my list not including Markstrom (who I would put #2):1. Horvat2. Jensen3. Hutton4. Shinkaruk5. Gaunce6. Eriksson7. Corrado8. Grenier9. Fox10. Schroeder11. Archibald12. Cassels13. Subban14. Labate15. Lain16. Cannata17. Kenins18. McEneny19. McNally20. AnderssonAdded: Kenins, McEneny, LainRemoved: Tommernes, Sauve, MalletWhy Added: Kenins is a physical player with a sound two-way game. Marc Crawford seemed confident that Kenins would be playing in the NHL within a couple of years. This past season he has far more goals/points in less games and a good showing at the olympics. McEneny improved on his solid season, and put up 35 points in 46 games along with a +14. He also has a 6'2, 205 lb frame to go along with his offensive & defensive capabilities. Lain is older and has a low ceiling but he could become an awesome 4th line player. He looked pretty good and has a great combination of size, speed, physical play and faceoff ability.Why Removed: Three guys who haven't shown much at the AHL level and are a bit older. I think Mallet still has a chance but I don't see Tommernes or Sauve making it as full time NHL players.Ben Hutton: My biggest mover. He seems to be the total package and should have been nominated for a Hobey Baker. 15 goals is absolutely insane for a college defenseman and was also the team lead. In fact, he had 3 more goals than any other defenseman in college hockey. Throw in his defensive abilities and we got ourselves a blue chip prospect."Hutton stands 6-foot-3, 200 pounds, and he’s capable of delivering big hits. But he gets much more notoriety for his offense. His coach, Red Gendron, doesn’t think that is necessarily fair"“He’s got a great stick, and he’s got a great feel for the game. Obviously, he can skate,” Gendron said. “But there have been moments this year, on the penalty kill and other defensive situations, he’s been incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Mallet was a terrible pick, I honestly don't think he's better than anyone they've put him above. Cannata in the top 10 is... interesting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 LOL is this a joke?"Bo Horvat now leads the Vancouver Canucks Top 20 ranking as Nicklas Jensen has struggled to find his footing in the NHL this season." If Jensen couldn't find his footing then some of our guys don't deserve to be on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phamda Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 LOL is this a joke? "Bo Horvat now leads the Vancouver Canucks Top 20 ranking as Nicklas Jensen has struggled to find his footing in the NHL this season." If Jensen couldn't find his footing then some of our guys don't deserve to be on the team. Article was written prior to his call up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 LOL is this a joke? "Bo Horvat now leads the Vancouver Canucks Top 20 ranking as Nicklas Jensen has struggled to find his footing in the NHL this season." If Jensen couldn't find his footing then some of our guys don't deserve to be on the team. The article was published a week ago and likely went to the editor 2 weeks ago (it references that Jensen was just called up). Considering he likely hadn't registered a point in the NHL at that point, it was a fair statement at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Mallet was a terrible pick, I honestly don't think he's better than anyone they've put him above. Cannata in the top 10 is... interesting? Couldn't agree more. Mallet was projected to go undrafted and was unranked by majority of teams...no one would've picked him in the first 5 rounds guaranteed but knowing the Nucks and all, have to waste a 2nd round pick on him. Could've easily got him in the later rounds or possibly signed him after the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
people please Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Mallet is a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovekevinbieksa Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 We need to get Hutton signed because that will definitely strengthen our weak D prospect pool. Im curious to see how Fox ends up because he just lit it up in the O this year - so we definitely know theres some potential there. I would put Cassels above Archibald. I can't give you a good explanation why though - i just get that feeling. He was definitely a 3rd round steal Mallet.... oh boy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Find it hilarious how low they ranked Fox lol. He's ran away with OHL coaching awards and awards in general and praise by all his teammates, opposing players etc...yea he may be an overager but the way he's played this year and proved himself, sucks for the teams that don't have him that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Snooze fest with those rankings. Could have been worse I suppose, but I don't like their evaluation of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UticaHockey Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Mallet would have been better served if he was sent down to the ECHL this year. I feel sorry for him after watching him in warm ups so often and then hit the early showers to be a healthy scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Mallet would have been better served if he was sent down to the ECHL this year. I feel sorry for him after watching him in warm ups so often and then hit the early showers to be a healthy scratch. Mallet was a healthy scratch a lot this year? That sucks, watching him in camp this year I thought he looked good and had a good shot at being a 3rd or 4th line banger grinder for the Canucks. Hard to have much faith when he's a healthy scratch in the AHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Hutton 3rd? Very interesting. I find it hard to compare college guys to chl. Cool to see someone has him right up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Ok this list is off its rocker Heres my evaluation 1. Horvat Will be our shutdown center next yr great on face offs most upside out of any prospects 2. Shinkaruk Sniper like ability that shot he scored on lunquivst was crazy in preseason 3. Jensen. Big body sick shot 4. Corrado calm steady dman all round good 5. Hutton big body great yr 6. Lain Played great for canucks love his size 6'6 220 7. Kenins Played unreal in olympics looks like a steal i think he slots on 3rd line next yr trade 8. Markstrom Has huge upside will be great with lack as a tandem 9. Fox Great one timer clutch play 67 goals in ohl this yr and counting 2way player good at faceoffs 10. Gaunce big 2way center clutch 11. Archibald big hard hitter great future 4th liner 12. Eriksson decent first yr numbers in utica 13. Cassels good center dna from his dad helps 14. Grenier looks ok on comets 15. Mcnally decent in college 16. Mceneny looks ok for a free prospect 17. Labate decent on comets 18. Subban small but offensive dman 19. Mallet hope he trains gard this summer otherwise a bust 20. Anderson seems like a plug dont see him making nhl Fox and shinkaruk and kenins and gaunce are players im most excited about horvat will be great he looks like real deal hooe all five of these guys make team next yr trade out kesler for a younger center and a 1st Get rid of hansen and edler For decent prospects and picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Hutton 3rd? Very interesting. I find it hard to compare college guys to chl. Cool to see someone has him right up there. That's the OP's opinion, not the opinion of HF. I don't know enough about Hutton to agree/disagree with the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Ok this list is off its rockerHeres my evaluation1. Horvat Will be our shutdown center next yr great on face offs most upside out of any prospects2. Shinkaruk Sniper like ability that shot he scored on lunquivst was crazy in preseason3. Jensen. Big body sick shot4. Corrado calm steady dman all round good5. Hutton big body great yr6. Lain Played great for canucks love his size 6'6 2207. Kenins Played unreal in olympics looks like a steal i think he slots on 3rd line next yr trade8. Markstrom Has huge upside will be great with lack as a tandem9. Fox Great one timer clutch play 67 goals in ohl this yr and counting 2way player good at faceoffs10. Gaunce big 2way center clutch11. Archibald big hard hitter great future 4th liner12. Eriksson decent first yr numbers in utica13. Cassels good center dna from his dad helps14. Grenier looks ok on comets15. Mcnally decent in college16. Mceneny looks ok for a free prospect17. Labate decent on comets18. Subban small but offensive dman19. Mallet hope he trains gard this summer otherwise a bust20. Anderson seems like a plug dont see him making nhlFox and shinkaruk and kenins and gaunce are players im most excited about horvat will be great he looks like real deal hooe all five of these guys make team next yr trade out kesler for a younger center and a 1stGet rid of hansen and edler For decent prospects and picksSwap Lain for Fox and move up Gaunce and Cassels above Lain and then I am good with that list.Also Drop Anderson and add Cannata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Heyman Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 HFBoards has horrible canucks lists. Theyre ranking system is pretty bad too. My personal list that hasn't changed much since December: 1. Bo Horvat 2. Hunter Shinkaruk 3. Nicklas Jensen 4. Frankie Corrado 5. Brendan Gaunce 6. Ben Hutton 7. Cole Cassels 8. Joakim Eriksson 9. Joe LaBate 10. Alexandre Grenier 11. Jordan Subban 12. Dane Fox 13. Darren Archibald 14. Kellan Lain 15. Henrik Tommernes 16. Ronalds Kenins 17. Peter Andersson 18. Anton Cederholm 19. Alexandre Mallet 20. Patrick McNally (really screwed himself over with that cheating scandal) HM's to Zalewski who I havent seen enough of to rank and Blomstrand who I hope is in the AHL next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 ^heard about the cheating scandal but not anymore than that. Anyone have details as to what happened a bit more in depth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshdrvvn Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 ^heard about the cheating scandal but not anymore than that. Anyone have details as to what happened a bit more in depth? Around 30ish students (I think) got caught collaborating on a take home test last year. a number of them were student athletes. McNally was suspended for the remainder of the season after playing 9 games. he sat out 9 games at the beginning of this year to maintain another year of eligibility. I was updated on that detail last week myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sestito Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 McNally has elite talent. He just had a shit attitude. Great pick, but he fucked himself over. I believed in him as a fan. I thought he was soooo underrated, and a for sure #3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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