Down by the River Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 7 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said: The guy I'm really disappointed in right now is Tulo. I can't remember that last time he delivered a clutch hit. Man on third and one out, you have to get that run home. It's like Tabby said: In the same situation, Beltre cut down his swing and made sure he hit the ball to the middle of the field. It's fundamental baseball and too many of the Jays are still swinging for the fences when the situation dictates otherwise. Pillar gets worse as bigger bats step into the lineup and he tries to match them swing-for-swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bassi13 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) If Jeff Bagwell was able to make the Hall of Fame with a few years of eligibility to spare, why is Larry Walker so far from a possibility based on voting as it stands? Seems silly. Edit: Not that Bagwell is worse, or undeserving, but Walker had a similar type of career, with similar, if not greater, accolades. Edited June 21, 2017 by g_bassi13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beary Sweet Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 The team has been in tough when they're trying to get back to .500. It's as if they're battling against themselves. Tonight, chance to get within a game of the mark with Biagini and hopefully he breaks his slump for the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 9 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said: The guy I'm really disappointed in right now is Tulo. I can't remember that last time he delivered a clutch hit. Man on third and one out, you have to get that run home. It's like Tabby said: In the same situation, Beltre cut down his swing and made sure he hit the ball to the middle of the field. It's fundamental baseball and too many of the Jays are still swinging for the fences when the situation dictates otherwise. I've given up on the return of Rockies' Tulo a long time ago. I mean, what happened to this guy? He was still an elite baseball player before he was traded. I gave him a pass when he arrived and all of the first half of the year, last season, but this is his second year in the AL. He should be at least getting on base (career .900 OBP) or hitting above .270 (career .290). He isn't exactly old for a baseball player, either. Should still have a few good years ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 17 minutes ago, shiznak said: I've given up on the return of Rockies' Tulo a long time ago. I mean, what happened to this guy? He was still an elite baseball player before he was traded. I gave him a pass when he arrived and all of the first half of the year, last season, but this is his second year in the AL. He should be at least getting on base (career .900 OBP) or hitting above .270 (career .290). He isn't exactly old for a baseball player, either. Should still have a few good years ahead of him. Some guys just never get comfortable with switching to a different league. I was hopeful that Tulo would eventually return to form, but I was also afraid that it might never happen, which is why I wasn't against exploring a trade last off-season, when his value was still relatively high. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: Some guys just never get comfortable with switching to a different league. I was hopeful that Tulo would eventually return to form, but I was also afraid that it might never happen, which is why I wasn't against exploring a trade last off-season, when his value was still relatively high. That really never cross my mind, because Tulo was such an elite hitter, not just power wise, but just putting contact on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 7 hours ago, Gollumpus said: I'm too busy being seasick over the ups and downs of this season's Giants' team to pay attention to the Dodgers (...ick...). regards, G. I don't actually follow any other teams tbh, just the occasional player who stands out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Regarding Tulo, if some remember I mentioned many times how I wouldn't mind trading Tulo for pitching and having Goins and Travis up the middle that was the future. Although it was also Goins bat that struggled which made sense to keep Tulo, but this year Goins is proving he can hit, so he makes Tulo now expendable for sure. But then again Travis maybe done for his career soon, he can't stay healthy kind of reminds me a bit of Josh Hamilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Tulo has a full NTC. Doubt he would waive it and move again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 3 hours ago, shiznak said: Tulo has a full NTC. Doubt he would waive it and move again. Agree with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Neat stat. Apparently Osuna is the youngest to get 75 saves in the MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Do the Jays finally get to .500 today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bassi13 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Down by the River said: Do the Jays finally get to .500 today? Fairly certain they are allergic to the concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Early start to the game, just after 11 am pacific. Glad I saw DbR's post, reminded me to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Donaldson out with left knee soreness. It has been interesting to watch the different swings of Donaldson versus Pearce. The former is all hips, little wrist/forearm movement. The former is virtually all wrists and forearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, Down by the River said: Donaldson out with left knee soreness. It has been interesting to watch the different swings of Donaldson versus Pearce. The former is all hips, little wrist/forearm movement. The former is virtually all wrists and forearms. Not sure if you saw it but Donaldson has had a segment or two on TV where he talks about his swing, approach, philosophy, etc. It's unlike anything I've ever heard before. Also a horrible way to teach kids to hit IMO, and with him being a star on the lone Canadian team every dam kid I coach is now out there trying to emulate him. Obviously it works for him, there's no denying that, but he's got hours upon hours to work on his swing as well as years of professional strength training to help make it work. He's one strong dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I have to call out Gibby and his lineup in a must win game. Martin should be catching, Barney or Goins should be playing 3rd base and the other 2nd base, Goins versus a Lefty is still a better chance at a hit then Maile so the argument for the matchup is useless. This is a prime example of a horrible manager in a must win game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Sean Monahan said: Not sure if you saw it but Donaldson has had a segment or two on TV where he talks about his swing, approach, philosophy, etc. It's unlike anything I've ever heard before. Also a horrible way to teach kids to hit IMO, and with him being a star on the lone Canadian team every dam kid I coach is now out there trying to emulate him. Obviously it works for him, there's no denying that, but he's got hours upon hours to work on his swing as well as years of professional strength training to help make it work. He's one strong dude. I still remember when Donaldson first came to the Jays they asked him about his swing and his response was he kind of mimics Bautistas swing, very similar this was a few years ago not sure if it has changed since, but I remember him saying that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3. Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Ahhh man. This is out of hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Maybe a new bench boss can get this team over .500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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