theo5789 11,662 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 59 minutes ago, elvis15 said: I had concerns over the way he left that he might not want to come back, possibly specifically to the Canucks. It didn't seem like a situation he should be upset over, but the situation leaving was strange. He was always steadfast about only wanting to play with his hometown club though when in the KHL, so if there's any playing teams against each other, it would likely only be the NHL. Yekaterinburg's budget likely doesn't allow for any big increases for more money there. I think the family issues were the reason why he was adamant about going to Yekaterinburg. I think this time with the possibility of him moving again that him and his wife are more ready for the challenge of a move wherever they may end up. If they're willing to move to a "new" country, surely a new city in their own country wouldn't be a reach. Maybe he wouldn't get as much money as he would here, but he gets to stay in a country where his wife is more comfortable (language and all that) and try to squeeze more money in a offer for a player coveted by the NHL. All signs seem to point an eventual return and I'm really hoping he does. But I'm also trying to set myself up in case he doesn't and not be too upset about it. Whatever decision he makes, I wish him the best. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Canadian 357 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Would be an immediate replacement for Fantenburg/Benn as #6 LHD Next Year: Edler-Myers Hughes-Tanev Tryamkin-Stecher Benn-Rafferty 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borvat 1,742 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I am not sure what Tryamkin's KHL salary is but according to this article he can't be making close to what he could in the NHL. 64 Rubles to every $1 USD. Even if he is making 70 Million Rubles (which doesn't appear likely) it only equates to about $1 Million USD. https://www.traderumours.com/index.php?blog=8200&s=8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theo5789 11,662 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Borvat said: I am not sure what Tryamkin's KHL salary is but according to this article he can't be making close to what he could in the NHL. 64 Rubles to every $1 USD. Even if he is making 70 Million Rubles (which doesn't appear likely) it only equates to about $1 Million USD. https://www.traderumours.com/index.php?blog=8200&s=8 Have to factor in desire to stay or try something new and also cost of living and taxes. It's not simply what's the max money that can be made. There's probably union dues and other costs as well that I don't know if they have the same in the KHL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Provost 8,679 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Borvat said: I am not sure what Tryamkin's KHL salary is but according to this article he can't be making close to what he could in the NHL. 64 Rubles to every $1 USD. Even if he is making 70 Million Rubles (which doesn't appear likely) it only equates to about $1 Million USD. https://www.traderumours.com/index.php?blog=8200&s=8 With taxes, cost of living, and escrow... he would probably have to make a lot more here to break even. If he had have stayed, he could have probably signed a $3 million x 3 year deal here. Now he is looking more like $2x2 to see if he can actually be a legitimate NHL solution. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borvat 1,742 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Provost said: With taxes, cost of living, and escrow... he would probably have to make a lot more here to break even. If he had have stayed, he could have probably signed a $3 million x 3 year deal here. Now he is looking more like $2x2 to see if he can actually be a legitimate NHL solution. My point is he won't be losing out at a minimum and more than likely will be a fair bit better off in the short term but more so especially the long term if he is successful. He isn't going to make as much in the KHL. Now is the time to take a chance for him at 25. If he waits much longer the window may likely close. Edited January 20, 2020 by Borvat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janisahockeynut 7,715 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I been thinking about what Tryamkin's contract will look like here...... I am thinking that his first year signing bonus will be big and he will want a longer contract.... I am thinking 3 years @ 3.00 Million per = 9.0 Million Total As part of that 9.0 Million the signing bonus will be 2.0 Million, so his contract will look like this 4.333,333 Million - 1st yr, 2,333,333 - 2nd yr, 2.333,333 - 3rd yr Totally makes his contract portable at all times His whole contract can be mutually terminated at any time, if he wants to go back to mother Russia and his buy out can be bought out, or traded without much cost The bonus will be paid out in the first year as an incentive to Tryamkin and will be a safety mechanism as the Canucks and Tryamkin's first year will be a trial and error type of season If he can't make if, he leaves, at worst Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janisahockeynut 7,715 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Question for the more brainy.... Could Tryamkin be paid a consulting contract by the Canucks, where he gives them his opinions on none drafted players in the KHL aka, 500,000 per year for inside info? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Kneel 8,535 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: Question for the more brainy.... Could Tryamkin be paid a consulting contract by the Canucks, where he gives them his opinions on none drafted players in the KHL aka, 500,000 per year for inside info? The only ones I would look at are the bigger defenseman. There are a handful I've seen that would look good at developing. The forwards in the K are mostly led by KHL lifers and ex NHL semi retired types. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilentSam 7,245 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 13 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: Question for the more brainy.... Could Tryamkin be paid a consulting contract by the Canucks, where he gives them his opinions on none drafted players in the KHL aka, 500,000 per year for inside info? Damn your creative sometimes Jan.. I’m in the middle of a renovation.. do you paint ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post aGENT 35,399 Posted January 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2020 22 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: Question for the more brainy.... Could Tryamkin be paid a consulting contract by the Canucks, where he gives them his opinions on none drafted players in the KHL aka, 500,000 per year for inside info? 9 hours ago, SilentSam said: Damn your creative sometimes Jan.. I’m in the middle of a renovation.. do you paint ? I'd rather they go this route with Eriksson next year Loui Eriksson - Rogers Arena VP of Rafter Inspection - $2.5m over 2 years salary. 1 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Provost 8,679 Posted January 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2020 This report says Tryamkin regrets leaving the NHL and blames it on “the emotional inexperience of youth”. I don’t know if he is going to come back, or if he can be a legitimate NHL player, or fit on a 3rd pairing... but having the option is better than not having it. https://www.traderumours.com/index.php?blog=11801&s=8 5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilentSam 7,245 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Provost said: This report says Tryamkin regrets leaving the NHL and blames it on “the emotional inexperience of youth”. I don’t know if he is going to come back, or if he can be a legitimate NHL player, or fit on a 3rd pairing... but having the option is better than not having it. https://www.traderumours.com/index.php?blog=11801&s=8 All speculation on Nik is heating up again.. a positive read with updated quotes from the Daily HIVE. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/nikita-tryamkin-possible-return-canucks 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aliboy 1,156 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 39 minutes ago, SilentSam said: All speculation on Nik is heating up again.. a positive read with updated quotes from the Daily HIVE. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/nikita-tryamkin-possible-return-canucks So, if I'm reading correctly, this article is saying he can't play for us this season? That would be a drag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post SilentSam 7,245 Posted January 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, aliboy said: So, if I'm reading correctly, this article is saying he can't play for us this season? That would be a drag. This quote from the article is wrong and misleading ”Tryamkin’s KHL contract with his hometown team, Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg, is set to expire on April 30. That’s after the last game of the regular season, and he wouldn’t be eligible to play in the playoffs, so the soonest Tryamkin could return is at the start of the 2020-21 season.” the last game of the regular season In the KHL is Feb 27.. The last game of the entire season (playoffs/cup) Is April 30th.. tenatively.. his contract can be terminated when his season is over. Just as he was able to join us when he first arrived. As long as a mutual understanding is reached that he would not return to another team in the KHL if he did not make the NHL squad.. read it somewhere?? 1 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Provost 8,679 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, aliboy said: So, if I'm reading correctly, this article is saying he can't play for us this season? That would be a drag. It is wrong, same thing happened with Gusev and he was eligible. The KHL season goes until late February but player contracts go until 30th April. The KHL team has to release him from his contract early so he can sign his NHL contract in time. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aliboy 1,156 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Thanks for the clarification guys! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Kneel 8,535 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Twin Towers! beastly 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Provost 8,679 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Honestly if he could join us with half a dozen games left in the regular season to see how he looks, it could be a perfect fit. His value in the post season is probably greater than the regular season. A series where his marching orders are to lean on opposing forwards and finish checks (he doesn’t have to be Pronger and there is a lot less actual fighting in the post season)... it could really lag dividends as those forwards wear down over a few games. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilentSam 7,245 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, aliboy said: So, if I'm reading correctly, this article is saying he can't play for us this season? That would be a drag. This quote from the article is wrong and misleading ”Tryamkin’s KHL contract with his hometown team, Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg, is set to expire on April 30. That’s after the last game of the regular season, and he wouldn’t be eligible to play in the playoffs, so the soonest Tryamkin could return is at the start of the 2020-21 season.” the last game of the regular season In the KHL is Feb 27.. The last game of the entire season (playoffs/cup) Is April 30th.. tenatively.. his contract can be terminated when his season is over. Just as he was able to join us when he first arrived. As long as a mutual understanding is reached that he would not return to another team in the KHL if he did not make the NHL squad.. read it somewhere?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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