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3 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said:

I am a very big fan of Tryamkin and his potential, but Tanev is one heckuva good defensive D. For me, the big issue with Tanev, is can he stay healthy, not can he play a key role for us. If I was to target a spot for Tryamkin, it would be 3rd pairing left D (Fantenburg or Benn), or 3rd pairing right D (Stetcher). I believe Tryamkin has the ability to play further up the lineup - ultimately, but that is to be seen. Another player that we may want to work into the lineup is Rafferty, and another who next year may earn a look is Juolevi.

he's a good defender, for sure, but I do think his play is moderately overrated too.  However, I think he's a strong leader and losing him would be a big hole in the makeup of the team.

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Just now, stawns said:

he's a good defender, for sure, but I do think his play is moderately overrated too.  However, I think he's a strong leader and losing him would be a big hole in the makeup of the team.

If Tanev, like Edler, was hurt for an extended time we would really feel it. I feel that Tryamkin wouldn't be able to replace what Tanev brings right away. It's hard for some players to step in right away and make that sort of impact, there's an adjusting period.

 

I would personally like to keep Tanev and have Tryamkin here. It would give Green a 3rd pairing he can play more than 15 minutes a game, taking the load off our top 4 which would make them all play better and fresher. On top of this it would give Tryamkin the time he needs to adjust, though personally I don't see him needing much more than a year.

 

It would give us some pretty ganrly D-depth that season too. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Lancaster said:

I'm fine with no forcing Tryamkin to play with an edge.  If it's not his game, it's not his game.  He just needs to be a willing participant when he is required to be one... and so far he has been more than willing to finish things when the opposition wishes to start something.  

If he is just another Marek Malik (but tougher), that's perfectly fine too.  

I think Tryamkin has had 3 seasons to think about his first run through the NHL. I think he learned a lot, ie the stuff after the whistle, face washes, clearing the crease after the whistle if they are to close to the goalie, knocking guys over when heading to the bench, Crashing the melee and grabbing someone if there's trouble. All common sense stuff for NA players. Also he knows that if he rocks someone with a legal hit that the play is not over after the whistle, other players will come at him for revenge or try to push him down. He knows now to be able to protect yourself at all times. That cheap stuff is always at risk happening after the whistle. Good thing Try is able to protect himself.

I think the edgier part of the NHL  is part of the mental game Tryamkin will be better prepared fpr when he comes back. But now with a way better team and more back up than last time.

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21 hours ago, Lancaster said:

Tanev is proven, whereas Tryamkin isn't not quite as established.  

That being said, if you want a player to clear the front of the net or to pin someone along the boards, Tryamkin is the better option.

 

Nikita does have that "x-factor", simply due to his size and unorthodox style of play.  I remember when he was defending a 2-on-1... and instead of staying in the middle in an attempt to stop the pass... he just stopped and went at the puck carrier... and the guy with the puck just flinched and for a split moment seemed confused.  Weird... but it broke up the play.  

 

What I noticed when Tryamkin was with us as a 21 year old ..

He doesn’t track an opponent like Tanev does it a cycle,  he simple shuts them down.

He doesn’t play with stick checks in his own crease area,.  He simply puts his body where he wants with an opponent and easily leveraged them out of position..

He rarely turns away on his gap coverage after an opponent makes a pass,  he follows through to take the passer out of the return play the passer is trying to make.

im not into analytics.. but for his rookie year as a 21 year old ,  I think his shutdown game was pretty good.

He was a “hits” leader on this team.

so if there are comparisons to Tanev,

let’s include the age difference, the physical play, and the “Ironman” aspect as well.

 

 

ps. Tryamkins shot was recently clocked at 101 mph.

 

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1 minute ago, SilentSam said:

What I noticed when Tryamkin was with us as a 21 year old ..

He doesn’t track an opponent like Tanev does it a cycle,  he simple shuts them down.

He doesn’t play with stick checks in his own crease area,.  He simply puts his body where he wants with an opponent and easily leveraged them out of position..

He rarely turns away on his gap coverage after an opponent makes a pass,  he follows through to take the passer out of the return play the passer is trying to make.

im not into analytics.. but for his rookie year as a 21 year old ,  I think his shutdown game was pretty good.

He was a “hits” leader on this team.

so if there are comparisons to Tanev,

let’s include the age difference, the physical play, and the “Ironman” aspect.

 

ps. Tryamkins shot was recently clocked at 101 mph.

 

thats an interesting observation. What I remember most about Nik was he was still a bit nervous and tentative. I suspect now that he's 3 years older, married, and coming back to a league he knows better now that will disappear. I do like the mobility I see on the highlight clips people post in here too. 

 

I don't know how Green will want to use him so we'll have to wait and see but there's a lot to be excited about. 

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5 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

What I noticed when Tryamkin was with us as a 21 year old ..

He doesn’t track an opponent like Tanev does it a cycle,  he simple shuts them down.

He doesn’t play with stick checks in his own crease area,.  He simply puts his body where he wants with an opponent and easily leveraged them out of position..

He rarely turns away on his gap coverage after an opponent makes a pass,  he follows through to take the passer out of the return play the passer is trying to make.

im not into analytics.. but for his rookie year as a 21 year old ,  I think his shutdown game was pretty good.

He was a “hits” leader on this team.

so if there are comparisons to Tanev,

let’s include the age difference, the physical play, and the “Ironman” aspect.

 

ps. Tryamkins shot was recently clocked at 101 mph.

 

Maybe Petey can take him weight training when he gets here? :lol:

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7 minutes ago, theo5789 said:

Weaker than EP, what a dud.

I think that's actually pretty good for a wrist shot lol. I remember when he was here that his passes were often harder than many players slap shots. Takes a fairly high skill level just to be able to receive them cleanly.

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