JeremyCuddles Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Torts only had one year on the job before becoming our whipping boy I don't blame Torts for our woes last year. Not entirely like most. He isn't the coach for our run and gun team. His style conflicted with our core and it showed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I don't blame Torts for our woes last year. Not entirely like most. He isn't the coach for our run and gun team. His style conflicted with our core and it showed. Lots of folks weren't interested in that experiment from the get-go but decided to give it a chance and see what Tortorella did. Unfortunately, Tortorella doesn't coach to what he has, he does what he does, and when that doesn't work or fit with what he has to work with he expects to remake the organizaton in his image. We've been there before with that, and I'm glad it was nipped in the bud before it went any further. Tortorella has been the subject of lots of discussion pre an post, but as far as I'm concerned, he made no shortage of strongly counterintuitive decisions and fairly predictably paid the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 If this team surprises and makes the playoffs, WD will be in the mix for the Jack Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 some may be - some are firmly behind this team, consistently and regardless. this team was less than adequate (performance-wise) last year. did that stop you from loving it? no sir it didn't .. I would love them if they came dead last and drafted a franchise player .. my love is unconditional ..tee hee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Willie is great. A true player's coach, somewhat like AV. AV wasn't a players coach. That's why he let the Sedins and the other leaders control communication on the players side. Desjardins actually talks to players and tries to push them individually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 AV wasn't a players coach. That's why he let the Sedins and the other leaders control communication on the players side. Desjardins actually talks to players and tries to push them individually. What I meant is that AV was the kind of coach that players liked and got along with generally, unlike Torts. Desjardins is like that too. But yes, Desjardins takes it a step further and tries to create further relationships with his players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 no sir it didn't .. I would love them if they came dead last and drafted a franchise player .. my love is unconditional ..tee hee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I don't blame Torts for our woes last year. Not entirely like most. He isn't the coach for our run and gun team. His style conflicted with our core and it showed. I don't blame torts at all. He's a proven winner, but for whatever reason our team couldn't swallow their ego and just buy into the system. It's as if they thought they were a run and gun team when in reality the skill and speed just wasn't there anymore. I like what Benning has done in shipping out some dead weight. If this downwards spiral persists, it will no longer be the coaches head on a platter like previous years, but rather old core guys like Bieksa, Burrows and Edler who just couldn't get the job done will get shipped out of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Yet guys like he, Keenan, Crawford etc win cups as fiery coaches. Yup...Keenan SC in '93-'94; Crow SC in '95-'96; Tortorella SC in '03-'04. Only success Keenan and Crow have had coaching in recent years is overseas...looks like Tortorella's only coaching employment is going to come in some Euro league. These fiery guys are awesome. Awesome in the sort of dinosaurs are awesome kind of way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Torts only had one year on the job before becoming our whipping boy I think it was De Niro who said "we need a committed coach"... Tort's should have been committed to the asylum long before the end of the year! He didn't get voted in as whipping boy he fully earned the position... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I think it was De Niro who said "we need a committed coach"... Tort's should have been committed to the asylum long before the end of the year! He didn't get voted in as whipping boy he fully earned the position... As far as I'm concerned, he just inherited a crappy team. Did what he could by trying to implement a system, but the team just didn't want to buy in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 People are reading too much into things. Lets see how this team plays once they hit the rink. Lets see if our PP improves at all...etc. Every coach has a different strategy and mentality. Torts won a cup so clearly he did something right. I hope WDs coaching style works for our group, but we won't know until we are well into the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 As far as I'm concerned, he just inherited a crappy team. Did what he could by trying to implement a system, but the team just didn't want to buy in. I'm still trying to figure out what system he was trying to implement..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon4401 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I'm still trying to figure out what system he was trying to implement.....Block all the shots and 5 guys play the majority of the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I'm still trying to figure out what system he was trying to implement..... A defence first, "grind it out" type system. There wasn't nearly enough talent on the team for a "run and gun" offence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Tortorella screamed and bullied his way into our lives and left as a bigger embarrassment than could have ever been scripted. May his ilk never be seen behind a Canucks bench again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Watch him become the whipping boy by seasons end if we miss the playoffs.Any fan who views him as the whipping boy by seasons end, is a feckless halfwit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I don't blame torts at all. He's a proven winner, but for whatever reason our team couldn't swallow their ego and just buy into the system. It's as if they thought they were a run and gun team when in reality the skill and speed just wasn't there anymore. I like what Benning has done in shipping out some dead weight. If this downwards spiral persists, it will no longer be the coaches head on a platter like previous years, but rather old core guys like Bieksa, Burrows and Edler who just couldn't get the job done will get shipped out of town.You're clueless. Tortorella was an absentee coach. It's been proven that he was constantly trying to find ways to duck responsibility. 1. Cutting the practice schedule in half in order to make his way into Point Roberts. 2. Not speaking or communicating to anyone in the Utica Comets throughout the entire season. 3. Embarrassing the team and the organization by trying to assault Bob Hartley. I mean, how useful was he in suspension? The players are just as culpable for the failure of last season. They should all be given one season to sort their shit out. Then the onus falls on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Torts only had one year on the job before becoming our whipping boy Sometimes that's all it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 Sometimes that's all it takes. Somehow Keenan managed to survive more than one season here. It's funny when you look at the coaching history of the Canucks, Tortorella had a similar effect to Keenan. Both came in guns blazing, alienated the players, forced one of our best players out (Linden, Kesler), and helped us finish almost bottom of the league, which resulted in a high 1st round pick. The next coach who was brought in was Crawford, who promised a much more up-tempo brand of hockey. He lasted here for 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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