Plum Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 The agent for defenseman Brenden Dillon said he made a two-year offer for $1.9 million a season on Tuesday and was turned down by the Stars, creating a situation where negotiations might have to “go back to the drawing board.” Because Dillon is a restricted free agent with no arbitration rights, he has little leverage other than to sit at home and hope the Stars decide they need him for the season opener on Oct. 9. Bousquet said the Stars are trying to look at a three-year deal for Dillon, but that he still is focused on a two-year bridge deal. http://starsblog.dallasnews.com/2014/09/agent-for-brenden-dillon-said-stars-turned-down-a-two-year-offer-at-1-9-million-a-year-on-tuesday.html/ Alot of contract struggles this off-season but how can Dallas turn down 2 years for 1.9$ per season for a young, top 4 defenceman. I would love to get Dillon here, big, strong, physical defenceman who knows how to play a two-way game. He would look great beside Tanev as a shutdown pair, Tanev is the one with the better defensive stick but Dillon is better at the body and physically wearing opponents down. Hamhuis-Bieksa Dillon-Tanev Edler-Leddy ^ That would be one of the most valuable top 6 in the league. Obviously it's not reality but Edler got a PMD on his pairing, a young shutdown pairing and the do it all pairing in Hamhuis and Bieksa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinkaruk_9 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Lol, Dallas is nuts if they're not willing to pay the guy 1.9 million, I'd say that's a good deal for them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 He's from BC trade for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87Crosby Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Why is Dallas doing this. 1.9 million is a bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudProudNuckFan Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Had to read it again to make sure it was dallas turning it down. Seems like a mistake to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Leddy and Dillon would be nice to shore up what I think is the Canucks' biggest weakness (defense) but we have nothing to trade to get either of them. Sbisa/Stanton/Weber it is then to start the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 1.9 is reasonable, but bridge deals can be bad for a team as the player might ask for insane money if they have a couple good seasons. Dallas just wants more term as it's cheaper for them in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 It's not a struggle. Stars are just being dicks. Dillon offered 2 years @ $1.9 mill per and Dallas never accepted!? Are the fracking nuts?? He's a core piece to their already weak defense and declining that is just ludicrous. I mean, he could easy pocket $2.5-$3 with a bridge and he's lowered his price quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Drafted him last night. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 He's primed for a break-out year, especially if he gets time to play with Seguin or Spezza who love using their defence men in the rush. Could really rack up 30-40 points easily which is why a bridge contract is dangerous for Dallas here. Those forwards would make him look a lot better than he actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 1.9 is pretty high given the bridge contracts we've seen this season. And for a guy who's probably going to be a career stay at home d-man, I can understand where Dallas is coming from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 It's not a struggle. Stars are just being dicks. Dillon offered 2 years @ $1.9 mill per and Dallas never accepted!? Are the fracking nuts?? He's a core piece to their already weak defense and declining that is just ludicrous. I mean, he could easy pocket $2.5-$3 with a bridge and he's lowered his price quite a bit. Noooo... PK's bridge was in that range you just mentioned. Keep in mind this guy had the exact same numbers (6G11A 17P) as Tanev (TANEV of all people!) - except Tanev played 16 games less than Dillon - and Dillon plays on a whole lot more talented Dallas Stars club that scored way more goals. So his comparable is probably Chris Tanev - both undrafted top 4 defensemen with limited offensive production, and while he is more physical than Tanev, I think Tanev plays a smarter defensive game. Tanev took 1.5 last year and he 2.0 this year - both are 1-year deals, and since Dillon is asking for a 2-year deal, somewhere in between 1.5-2.0 would be ideal for Dillon. Dillon's offer of 1.9 is within that ballpark, but it's harder to swallow a deal closer to 2.0 than 1.5 with a guy like Dillon IMO. He needs to come closer towards 1.5 and away from 2.0. Also, the Stars don't need him as much - their farm team are the defending AHL champions. A couple defensemen (Jamie Oleksiak and Patrick Nemeth) from that squad have made the final 23-man roster, and they are just biting chomps at the opportunity of making their NHL debuts and Dillon forgettable if he doesn't sign soon. If I'm Dillon I come back real quick with a lower number for 2 years or sign a 3-year deal and ask for a little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 He's primed for a break-out year, especially if he gets time to play with Seguin or Spezza who love using their defence men in the rush. Could really rack up 30-40 points easily which is why a bridge contract is dangerous for Dallas here. Those forwards would make him look a lot better than he actually is. Then they would know and trade him on his final year when his value is high to a team willing to overpay, and laugh. They have other defenders in their system that can replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Even as a depth D-man, that's a decent deal. 0.95M a season at 23, with potential? Something smells fishy in the reporting details... Edit...ok it's 1.9M a season. Makes more sense now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 168 hits last year???? Make a deal JB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManUtd Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Noooo... PK's bridge was in that range you just mentioned. Keep in mind this guy had the exact same numbers (6G11A 17P) as Tanev (TANEV of all people!) - except Tanev played 16 games less than Dillon - and Dillon plays on a whole lot more talented Dallas Stars club that scored way more goals. So his comparable is probably Chris Tanev - both undrafted top 4 defensemen with limited offensive production, and while he is more physical than Tanev, I think Tanev plays a smarter defensive game. Tanev took 1.5 last year and he 2.0 this year - both are 1-year deals, and since Dillon is asking for a 2-year deal, somewhere in between 1.5-2.0 would be ideal for Dillon. Dillon's offer of 1.9 is within that ballpark, but it's harder to swallow a deal closer to 2.0 than 1.5 with a guy like Dillon IMO. He needs to come closer towards 1.5 and away from 2.0. Also, the Stars don't need him as much - their farm team are the defending AHL champions. A couple defensemen (Jamie Oleksiak and Patrick Nemeth) from that squad have made the final 23-man roster, and they are just biting chomps at the opportunity of making their NHL debuts and Dillon forgettable if he doesn't sign soon. If I'm Dillon I come back real quick with a lower number for 2 years or sign a 3-year deal and ask for a little more. He might not have to come down at all. There has been no indication if 2 years at 1.9 is the actual salary or just the contract terms. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a relatively low figure this year and a much higher one next. Maybe something along the lines of 1 and 2.8. That would force them to qualify him at 2.8 (or file for arbitration) regardless of whether he was worth it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Sbisa has the same upside as Dillon and plays a similar game as a left shot d. Not reaaly needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucker91 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 As we all know our coach use to coach him back in the ahl, what's the chances he has an in on trying to make a trade for him? Maybe he is pushing benning to try something .. Would be exciting to get him and he also got his first career goal against us lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Dillon will be one of the best shut down defenders in the league five years down the road, his nasty side is a huge bonus too. The Stars would be stupid to draw this out for much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Dillon will be one of the best shut down defenders in the league five years down the road, his nasty side is a huge bonus too. The Stars would be stupid to draw this out for much longer. No man. He's not that special. Dallas will be absolutely fine without Dillon this season if he doesn't play with the rise of Oleksiak and Nemeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.