chayne Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Hate to say it, but love to see a lot of the vets going and give the kids a ton of ice time. Keep Twins to lead the way and Vrbata to score. But Bieska, Hammy, Burr, Higgins, Hansen, and Miller should all be trade bait. I'd even toss Edler into that list to see what we could get as return. Then fill the line up with youngsters and see who sticks. Make it competitive. You don't play well Bonino? Uh Oh McCann took your spot and you have to play with Dorsett! Work harder!! Also Trade Kassian like yesterday. Resign Vey, Stanton, Kenins and Matthias. Let Weber, Richardson and McMillan run away. And Sbisa? Pray pray pray that the contract works cause god damn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Just a heads up. A lot of Norris candidates were drafted 2nd or later. In the last decade ish lets name them Chara, Lidstrom, Keith, Weber, Subban. On to solid young players with top 2 potential, I believe Severson, Bowey, McKeown, and a few others just off of the top of my head (could be wrong about draft places) were also 2nd round or later. So...in these supposed "deepest draft since 2003" (of which this is the 3rd we've heard that from, the last 2 years ago) it NEVER hurts taking a run on D men in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Hamhuis isn't going anywhere. If we lose Clendenning we really only lost a 5th round pick. I don't like this justification. If Detroit trades Datsyuk do they only lose a 5th round pick? Or Nashville loses Shea Weber they only lose a 2nd rounder? We didn't trade a 5th round pick for Clendenning; we traded Forsling. A pick is just a pick until it has a name attached to it. Forsling was at a high and just had a very impressive world juniors. His value was higher than a 5th round pick. I'm not sure how forsling's season has been this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 There's nothing new here. True enough. although I am a bit interested in what Denis Guryanov generate for interest from the Canuck fan base as a draft pick. Sounds like a bit of a high risk/high reward pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Because Vrbata only has one more year on his contract and just passed 34. It is likely he will tread water at his production level for another year if playing with the Sedins but will likely decline. Therefore, you obviously trade him while his value is worth more to the Canucks than he brings to the team. With that in mind, I would expect to see him unloaded at the trade deadline for a 2nd + prospect or a late first. I am so glad you are not part of Canucks Management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 If Vrbata can pot 30 goals next year, why wouldn't he be extended? 30 goal guys don't grow on trees. Who cares how old he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 If Vrbata can pot 30 goals next year, why wouldn't he be extended? 30 goal guys don't grow on trees. Who cares how old he is? Because we are going to have a abundant of young players pushing for spots and we won't be contenders so there is no point in paying a guy 6 million when we are going to try and develop or young players in the NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 If Vrbata can pot 30 goals next year, why wouldn't he be extended? 30 goal guys don't grow on trees. Who cares how old he is? Because when you are doing a tank job what is bad is good and what is good is bad...I think. So a 30 goal scorer will only keep us out of the basement, that is bad. Let's replace him with a rookie that is not ready for regular NHL minutes and get 1/3 of the goals. You'll thank me when we pick 2 spots higher in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nooks Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Because when you are doing a tank job what is bad is good and what is good is bad...I think. So a 30 goal scorer will only keep us out of the basement, that is bad. Let's replace him with a rookie that is not ready for regular NHL minutes and get 1/3 of the goals. You'll thank me when we pick 2 spots higher in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliesStache14 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 The Sedins are among the best scorers in the league. Hudler had more points than Henrik and as many as Daniel in less games, does that mean he's among the best too? Lots of guys had relatively average years compared to previous years. It was a low scoring year all around, the Art Ross was won with 84 points. That's the only reason the Sedins were inside the top 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliesStache14 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 If Vrbata can pot 30 goals next year, why wouldn't he be extended? 30 goal guys don't grow on trees. Who cares how old he is? He was useless in the playoffs, and has been for most of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 He was useless in the playoffs, and has been for most of his career.2 goals per playoffs. At least he's consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canorth Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Hudler had more points than Henrik and as many as Daniel in less games, does that mean he's among the best too? Lots of guys had relatively average years compared to previous years. It was a low scoring year all around, the Art Ross was won with 84 points. That's the only reason the Sedins were inside the top 20 Not sure if serious...so the reason the Sedins had a good year is because the rest of the league had a bad year? "inside the top 20" Daniel tied for 8th Henrik tied for 10th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliesStache14 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Not sure if serious...so the reason the Sedins had a good year is because the rest of the league had a bad year? "inside the top 20"Daniel tied for 8th Henrik tied for 10th yes, do you really think they'd have been 8th and 10th with 76 and 73 points most years? not a chance those point totals would barely make it into the top 20 most years, if at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiffyPB Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 yes, do you really think they'd have been 8th and 10th with 76 and 73 points most years? not a chance those point totals would barely make it into the top 20 most years, if at all Those point totals were also achieved with less minutes played and no offensive zone start inflation of 60-80% as past coaches have historically done with them. Considering the fact it was significantly more difficult for star players to even hit a PPG and their age it's actually quite spectacular that they did what they did. If Daniel could shoot at his traditional shooting percentage pre-concussion, he would have had 28 goals, which would have tied him with Crosby.Too bad this was all for just a 1 round punch-out against the weakest playoff team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soshified Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Hudler had more points than Henrik and as many as Daniel in less games, does that mean he's among the best too? Lots of guys had relatively average years compared to previous years. It was a low scoring year all around, the Art Ross was won with 84 points. That's the only reason the Sedins were inside the top 20 Other great players couldn't beat out two 35 year olds in the West? Does that show that it was a fluke season for the Sedins? Or maybe, the Sedins are still consistent and are one of the best scorers in the league? I guess Sedins top ten points were due to the rest of the league having bad years. Wait, how come you give excuses for other players that it was a low scoring season, but not to the Sedins as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPete13 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 yes, do you really think they'd have been 8th and 10th with 76 and 73 points most years? not a chance those point totals would barely make it into the top 20 most years, if at all In a year where points were hard to come by, the Sedins score enough of them to rank in the top ten. Why not accept that fact, give credit where credit is due, and move on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPete13 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 yes, do you really think they'd have been 8th and 10th with 76 and 73 points most years? not a chance those point totals would barely make it into the top 20 most years, if at all Look at the bright side, if this was the lockout year the Sedin's would have been 1st and second in league scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canorth Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 yes, do you really think they'd have been 8th and 10th with 76 and 73 points most years? not a chance those point totals would barely make it into the top 20 most years, if at all Your line of thinking here doesn't make any sense - at all. You are holding the Sedins to a higher standard then the entire league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 yes, do you really think they'd have been 8th and 10th with 76 and 73 points most years? not a chance those point totals would barely make it into the top 20 most years, if at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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