250Integra Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 In anticipation for tomorrow's big day (hockey's version of Christmas), I came across this link that shows every player drafted by the Canucks.. and I'm speechless at how atrocious some of the years were (in particularly, the early to mid 2000's). http://canucks.nhl.com/club/draftstats.htm?location=/draft&round=All&team=VAN&year=All You hope that within each draft, you can get at least one player (especially in the first round) that will have an impact in some way on this team. In particular, looking at the draft picks from 2007 is mind-numbing, despite it being a weak draft. I guess this is what happens when you go for "Off-board" picks and when our scouting department was clueless. Which years do you guys think were the best / worst? Best: 2004 / 1999 Worst: 2007 Potential Best: 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 It's hard to say in terms of recent years. We still have some wild cards. Jensen is taking a while and needs to make the team soon. Gaunce is looking good, but might peak out as a good third-line centre. Shinkaruk may be good, but he's not there yet, so it's hard to say. Virtanen is in the same boat, though he's a year younger. Horvat is the one recent great 1st rounder. As for the later rounds, guys like Grenier (3rd round in 2011), Cannata (6th round in 2009), Corrado (5th round in 2011), Hutton (5th round in 2012), Subban (4th round in 2013), and Cassels (3rd round in 2013) could all be steals. McCann and Demko are wild cards but could also be great. It's safe to say that Nonis was the one at the helm for a lot of our poor drafting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 looking forward..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mike Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Best= 1999 Worst= 2002 Potential best= 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-Hearted Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 I still remember my reaction to the drafting of Patrick White. "WHAT?!" "WHO??!!" It took me three minutes to find his name in my THN Draft preview magazine. A high-schooler who hardly dominated at his level. That may have been the final nail on Nonis's coffin as Canucks gm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 2005-2010 complete bust not 1 player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksFanInOz Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 2005-2010 complete bust not 1 player Thats a long stretch of draft futility. Hopefully this draft can one day prove to be a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Spend 5 decades projecting tomorrowPoisened luck, started spinning with PerraultSo then heck-let's start over!Blind man picks, 4 leaf cloverLotto-dreams, lost in chamber of echo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Spend 5 decades projecting tomorrow Poisened luck, started spinning with Perrault So then heck-let's start over! Blind man picks, 4 leaf clover Lotto-dreams, lost in chamber of echo ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 ^Actually, I'd regard it less than that.But maybe like Cubbies fans we'll grow wise, aging gracefully with humour & acceptance? All how one looks at things, I s'pose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Compared to our draft history, Benning's first draft will only need 2 players to play at an NHL level in order for it to be considered the best LOL... I still remember my reaction to the drafting of Patrick White. "WHAT?!" "WHO??!!" It took me three minutes to find his name in my THN Draft preview magazine. A high-schooler who hardly dominated at his level. That may have been the final nail on Nonis's coffin as Canucks gm. Yea I had the same reaction. This is why I stopped watching the Draft, until Benning came on board. Some of these picks were so off-the-board, maybe the Scout department picked names out of a hat. Ridiculous and it is the main reason we have had limited success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 2005-2010 complete bust not 1 player Agreed Nonis and Gillis had a poor record over that period. Gillis finally had a good draft in 2013 but too little, too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck_in_AB Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Agreed Nonis and Gillis had a poor record over that period. Gillis finally had a good draft in 2013 but too little, too late. I'd like to know what year it was (during the Gillis years) when the Canucks tripled their scouting budget. I have a feeling it correlates to the sudden increase in decent picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoted Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 2005-2010 complete bust not 1 player Only three players choosen in the top 20 during those years and they weren't actually that bad of picks (with Bourdon being an unknown obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrago Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 If you where to say the average career for an NHL player was 10 years which it isn't its much less I believe. You would have to average 2.3 of your draft picks making the NHL an average of 10 years.. We acomplished that once in the last twenty years ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HingleMccringleberry Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 This is why i hate Edmonton so much. Never have we had a 1st Overall pick in all of history and yet they had 4 of them in the last 6 years by getting rewarded each time by being a terrible team like they are. I enjoy the draft and am interested by the things that happen but boy I do hate how some parts of it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spankenstyne Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I still remember my reaction to the drafting of Patrick White. "WHAT?!" "WHO??!!" It took me three minutes to find his name in my THN Draft preview magazine. A high-schooler who hardly dominated at his level. That may have been the final nail on Nonis's coffin as Canucks gm. It's easy to look back in hindsight at what a bust he was, but for what it's worth ISS had him at #23 & we picked him @ #25. He was billed as a physical center with skill & wasn't an "off the board" kind of pick.. He also eventually helped get us Ehrhoff too so he ended up having some value. From his 2007 scouting profile: Central Scouting Report: A skilled forward with the ability to make a difference… strong player with a physical presence… plays tough in the corners and in traffic… is good on the right wing and gets his wrist shot off with ease… sometimes lacks urgency in his play. Hockey Profile: Named Associated Press Player of the Year for Minnesota boys hockey in 2007… named to the All-Tournament Team of the Class AA State Championships in 2007 after leading his team to the title game for the second consecutive year… had 36 points (11-25-36) in 17 games with Grand Rapids after missing the beginning of the season with an injury… played 12 games with the Tri-City Storm of the USHL in 2007 registering nine points (8-1-9)… will attend the University of Minnesota in the fall… selected to play in the 2007 Under-18 World Championships. 2007 FINAL ISS RANKINGS: JUNE1 Kane, Patrick RW 11/19/1988 L 5.09.5 160 London OHL2 vanRiemsdyk, James LW 5/4/1989 L 6.03 200 USA Under-18 NTDP3 Turris, Kyle C 8/14/1989 R 6.00.5 170 Burnaby BCHL4 Cherepanov, Alexei RW 1/15/1989 L 6.00 183 Omsk RusE5 Voracek, Jakub RW 8/15/1989 L 6.01.5 187 Halifax QMJHL6 Alzner, Karl LD 9/24/1988 L 6.02 206 Calgary WHL7 Gagner, Sam C 8/10/1989 R 5.11 191 London OHL8. Mayorov, Maxim LW 3/26/1989 L 6.02 187 Leninogorsk RusS9 Ellerby, Keaton LD 11/5/1988 L 6.04.5 186 Kamloops WHL10 Backlund, Mikael C 3/17/1989 L 6.00 194 Vasteras SweAl11 Esposito, Angelo C 2/20/1989 L 6.01 180 Quebec QMJHL12 Gillies, Colto C 2/12/1989 L 6.03.5 189 Saskatoon WHL13 Couture, Logan C 3/28/1989 L 6.00.5 195 Ottawa OHL14 Petrecki, Nicholas LD 7/11/1989 L 6.03 213 Omaha USHL15 Perron, David RW 5/28/1988 R 5.11.5 180 Lewiston QMJHL16 Hamill, Zach C 9/23/1988 R 5.10.5 180 Everett WHL17 Hickey, Thomas LD 2/8/1989 L 5.11 182 Seattle WHL18 Eller, Lars LW 5/8/1989 L 6.00 198 V. Frolunda SweJE19 McDonagh, Ryan LD 6/13/1989 L 6.01 200 Cretin-Derham USHSW20 Blum, Jon RD 1/30/1989 R 6.00.5 160 Vancouver WHL21 MacLean, Brett LW 12/24/198 R 6.01.5 196 Oshawa OHL22 O'Brien, Jim C 1/29/1989 R 6.02 184 Minnesota WCHA23 White, Pat C 1/20/1989 R 6.00.5 186 Grand Rapids USHSW24 MacMillan, Logan 7/5/1989 L 6.01 172 Halifax QMJHL25 Moller, Oscar RW 1/22/1989 R 5.11 179 Chilliwack WHL26 Repik, Michal RW 12/31/1988 R 5.10.5 180 Vancouver WHL27 Shattenkirk, Kevin RD 1/29/1989 R 5.11 193 USA Under-18 NTDP28 Plante, Alex RD 5/9/1989 R 6.03.5 225 Calgary WHL29 Cross, Tommy LD 9/12/1989 L6.03 195 Westminster USHSE30 Sutter, Brandon c 2/14/1989 R 6.03 170 Red Deer WHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhockey Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Great find! Excited about the draft and this offseason. In anticipation for tomorrow's big day (hockey's version of Christmas), I came across this link that shows every player drafted by the Canucks.. and I'm speechless at how atrocious some of the years were (in particularly, the early to mid 2000's). http://canucks.nhl.com/club/draftstats.htm?location=/draft&round=All&team=VAN&year=All You hope that within each draft, you can get at least one player (especially in the first round) that will have an impact in some way on this team. In particular, looking at the draft picks from 2007 is mind-numbing, despite it being a weak draft. I guess this is what happens when you go for "Off-board" picks and when our scouting department was clueless. Which years do you guys think were the best / worst? Best: 2004 / 1999 Worst: 2007 Potential Best: 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Jim Benning expects at least two NHL'ers from every draft so using that as a measuring stick, there are several bad years in there. Especially 2002, 2007 and maybe 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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