Me_ Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 If Drouin was in the Canucks' plans, Benning would have traded for him by now. Etem took that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Drouin lit it up in his first ahl game, since then I think he has played 5 other games and only recording 1a. I realize he probably doesnt have the talent around him to produce more, or maybe he is just not putting in a full effort and this is a small sample of games. But I would only think buy low, if Yzerman is wanting a top 4 current nhl roster d man for him I think he is dreaming, that would mean a team is giving up an established player for a young recent top 3 pick who has asked for a trade and is underperforming. As it sits right now, we have been developing prospects in Utica nicely and have 1 who is near PPG and probably needs a top 6 role in the NHL and that is Shinkaruk. I really like his game, and would rather keep him and see what he can do with a larger sample of games with the Canucks to see if he can make that jump. I am not against getting Drouin but I would want to keep Shinkaruk. I know Edler is the best D we have value wise and holds a ntc, but I wonder if Yzerman would add to Drouin to get him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agoork Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 4 hours ago, Nicklas Bo Hunter said: Shinkaruk is not a local kid Ok sorry, Calgary. Close enough. Western Canada and he seems really pumped to be a Canuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLuciano Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 How long till Steve Yzerman gets fired? Not drafting Seth Jones and losing Stamkos to free agency. Also, what's considered equal value for Drouin? His value is an all time low and is just potential at this point. He should consider himself lucky to net a second round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 37 minutes ago, LuckyLuciano said: How long till Steve Yzerman gets fired? Not drafting Seth Jones and losing Stamkos to free agency. Also, what's considered equal value for Drouin? His value is an all time low and is just potential at this point. He should consider himself lucky to net a second round pick. I don't really agree with anything here. Drouin was a great pick at the time. Looked like he could be the best player in the draft. Be like trying to fire benning for picking virtanen over larkin. Drouin will fetch more than a second round pick any day of the week. Don't forget all draft picks are are potential too. Last time I checked stamkos is still on the lightning roster and trade deadline hasn't passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Yotes said: Drouin lit it up in his first ahl game, since then I think he has played 5 other games and only recording 1a. I realize he probably doesnt have the talent around him to produce more, or maybe he is just not putting in a full effort and this is a small sample of games. But I would only think buy low, if Yzerman is wanting a top 4 current nhl roster d man for him I think he is dreaming, that would mean a team is giving up an established player for a young recent top 3 pick who has asked for a trade and is underperforming. As it sits right now, we have been developing prospects in Utica nicely and have 1 who is near PPG and probably needs a top 6 role in the NHL and that is Shinkaruk. I really like his game, and would rather keep him and see what he can do with a larger sample of games with the Canucks to see if he can make that jump. I am not against getting Drouin but I would want to keep Shinkaruk. I know Edler is the best D we have value wise and holds a ntc, but I wonder if Yzerman would add to Drouin to get him? To me giving up multiple youth prospects to acquire Drouin is more risk than the Canucks can afford to take. Drouin has not proven anything at the NHL level and his cache is simply where he was drafted. His red flags combined with Vancouver's poor prospect depth make it a none starter. I prefer a strategy of moving vets out for prospects and picks and going into the 2016 draft with a sack full of long term opportunity. It is likely Van drafts in the #8 to #10 area and if warranted Benning can trade up for a 1C or 1D draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Jonathan Drouin got 2 goals in the 1st AHL period he played, He now has 1 assist in the last 20 AHL periods he's played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 18 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said: Jonathan Drouin got 2 goals in the 1st AHL period he played, He now has 1 assist in the last 20 AHL periods he's played. I'm not too concerned about his initial ahl production, it's a different game that kinda kills the skill. Shink didn't start racking up the points until he figured out how to play the sloppier ahl game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Reports are that MTL is making a big push today to land Drouin. Asst. GM Dudley scouted Syracuse yesterday and Brian Wilde is reporting MTL is making a push by offering a significant package for Drouin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugiwara Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 What about Mackinnon and voracek?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 No Jonathan Drouin in the lineup for Syracuse tonight against Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, TheRussianRocket. said: No Jonathan Drouin in the lineup for Syracuse tonight against Toronto. Gotta think that either a recall is coming, or a deal is close enough that they pulled him. As it stands right now, his play in the AHL isn't exactly helping his value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 On January 19, 2016 at 11:09 AM, thad said: I'm not too concerned about his initial ahl production, it's a different game that kinda kills the skill. Shink didn't start racking up the points until he figured out how to play the sloppier ahl game. Shink also didn't whine though that he wasn't getting enough ice time. Drouin's done nothing to back up his trade request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Lightning announce Drouin has been suspended without pay for not showing up to the AHL game tonight lmao....Stevie Y, this ain't Detroit so stop trying to copy the model. No every prospect has to be 23 before he makes the NHL. Good luck with Drouin and Stamkos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, HC20.0 said: Shink also didn't whine though that he wasn't getting enough ice time. Drouin's done nothing to back up his trade request. That's the thing. If he wants a trade he's gotta prove that he's valuable enough for a team to trade for. If Yzerman is asking for guys like Dumba or McCann, good luck. You've got a 20 year old disgruntled player who isn't even dominating at the AHL level like a should be. Kerby Rychel is looking like a more appealing player than Drouin right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Things just got nasty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineHatCanuck Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Quote Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun 6m6 minutes ago Lightning announce Drouin has been suspended without pay for not showing up to the AHL game tonight Moron...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, TheRussianRocket. said: Lightning announce Drouin has been suspended without pay for not showing up to the AHL game tonight lmao....Stevie Y, this ain't Detroit so stop trying to copy the model. No every prospect has to be 23 before he makes the NHL. Good luck with Drouin and Stamkos Ouch. I did not see that coming... His value just plummeted. It's one thing to ask for a trade on an entry level contract, it's a whole other thing to not report for games. Yzerman should have taken any offer he could and run. I have a feeling teams will be lowering their offers a bit after this. This guy has headcase written all over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 drouin really pushing for a trade, this doesnt help his cause or help his value either why give up anything significant or proven for him. a pick and a prospect or player but nothing elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdatb Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Ouch. I did not see that coming... His value just plummeted. It's one thing to ask for a trade on an entry level contract, it's a whole other thing to not report for games. Yzerman should have taken any offer he could and run. I have a feeling teams will be lowering their offers a bit after this. This guy has headcase written all over him. ibet there are a significant amount of GMs who don't want him anywhere near their team after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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