Ryan Strome Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 20 hours ago, mpt said: Can't blame him for asking; can't do it though. Drouin might turn out to be better, but not worth the risk. Drouin for Virtanen? Done deal. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockhart Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 As much as people trash Drouin, he would instantly be our best young player offensively on the team. I see Horvat as a 50-60 point, Selke nominee type. I think Drouin in his prime is a 80 point guy. That being said I wouldn't trade Horvat or even Virtanen straight up for Drouin and it would kill me to have to give up McCann in a package cause with Horvat,Sutter and McCann we have 3 solid young centres, for hopefully the next 7-8 years. Shinkaruk (who is going to be a solid NHL player) + Vrbata (retain as much cap as possible) is where I'd start, then throw in picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking mama Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 20 hours ago, Rex425 said: A mature captain material 20 year old for a headcase... Skill wise Drouin might be better but with his attitude the dude's never going to be what he was supposed to be. Stevie Y is high. And besides the discrepancy in character Druin doesn't have near the same amount of dog-nosed grit as Boho. Is Druin & entourage becoming Cody Hodgson 2.0? It's hard for some 1st rounders to be humble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 20 hours ago, LuckyLuciano said: Apparently he asked Calgary for Bennett and MTL for Galcheyuk. Wouldnt be surprised if he asked Oilers for McDavid. Stevie Y is just an idiot! He is only an idiot if he doesn't try. And these are just rumors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweathog Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 With all the effort the Canucks are making to bring the right culture to the big team and the farm, why would we risk damaging all that by bringing in a primadonna like Drouin? And giving up Horvat to boot? Thanks but no thanks. I'll take the hard working future captain who is exceeding expectations over a self-entitled soft winger any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 JB just doing due diligence, like he also inquired about Johansen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Prophet Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 2 hours ago, J-Dizzle said: All speculation. There's still no way people should be pigeon holing Bo as a #2. He's already that at twenty. I think putting Bo as a #2 center could be appropriate, depending on the situation. For example, we could end up with 2 high class centers, one of them being Bo. Crosby and Malkin are a good example. Both are lethal, nobody can deny that. Malkin leading the 2nd line doesn't diminish his importance at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visp Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Agree with most on here that we should keep Horvat but disagree on the Drouin is a bust etc talk... I watched him play in halifax a lot and he is definitely legit and to be fair he hasn't really been giving much of a chance to play in the bigs. People change jobs and workplaces every day, Drouin seems unhappy and wants a change... Yeh he's earning a lot of money but so what, good for him! He's not a bust and could be our top non-Sedin scorer in a very short time if given a chance! As poster above said Shinkaruk + Vrbata with some retained would be a worthwhile gamble to take IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Here are the facts about Drouin: He's a small forward... 5' 11", 188 lbs... he's actually slightly smaller than Baerschi. He had great stats in Junior, last two seasons at 104 and 108 pts.... but for example, Baertschi had 94 pts in his last season. He also had a great Junior playoffs... winning the Memorial Cup one year, but so did Bo. First year with Tampa, in 70 games he had 4 g 28 a... 32 pts. But he was playing on the first line quite a bit... on a Tampa team which led the league in goals. So that has to be taken into consideration. A lot of those assists came with some very good players on his line. This year he has 2g 6a in 19 games... nothing spectacular. His play did not inspire confidence in his coach, and he was sent down to the AHL. Instead of putting his nose to the grindstone, keeping quiet and trying to improve, he demands a trade. Now even if a player is a high 1st rounder, and even if he is expected to make the NHL, that does not mean he should expect to have a permanent spot on the roster or a guarantee he will never play in the AHL. Tampa Bay does have a lot of skilled forwards... there is not a lot of room for players like Drouin, anyone who wants to make the team needs to put up some really good numbers. If Drouin was smart, he would have kept his yap shut, made it privately known through his agent that he would like a trade, and in the meantime worked hard to get his roster spot back. Canucks are looking for young skilled forwards... but we do have Baertschi, and McCann who fit Drouin's profile. We really need good defensive prospects. It doesn't make sense to trade away Horvat or Virtanen because they are a different type of player, they are more power forwards with the element of physicality, being able to power to the net... Bo is also a defensive specialist and a Center... always more valuable than a winger. It looks like Drouin and Yzerman have dug in, and they are not making progress. This is bad for Drouin's value. See the article below: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-jonathan-drouins-trade-stock-dropping-by-the-minute/ I think Benning has to be cautious about what he offers for this guy... he could be bad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 What do you guys think of Drouin for shink, Hamhuis and a 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 18 hours ago, Aleksander Barkov said: It is THAT ridiculous. Until Drouin proves he can be anywhere close to a point per game player in the Nhl it does NOT matter where he was drafted. There's tons of players that were drafted top 5 that haven't been impact players hey. Like Nino Niederreiter for example. Why would you risk shipping a future captain for an unproven player? It's just a terrible hockey move no matter what way you look at it. Nino Neidereiter's probably one of the worst examples that you can pick in terms of not being an impact player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersexual Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: What do you guys think of Drouin for shink, Hamhuis and a 3rd? Click. That is the sound of Yzerman's phone hanging up on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksander Barkov Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Nino Neidereiter's probably one of the worst examples that you can pick in terms of not being an impact player... How so? He's a bottom 6 forward as a top 5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Just now, homersexual said: Click. That is the sound of Yzerman's phone hanging up on you. Well I wouldn't trade Horvat, Virtanen or McCann for him. He can be someone else's problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 11 minutes ago, Canucks Prophet said: I think putting Bo as a #2 center could be appropriate, depending on the situation. For example, we could end up with 2 high class centers, one of them being Bo. Crosby and Malkin are a good example. Both are lethal, nobody can deny that. Malkin leading the 2nd line doesn't diminish his importance at all. I'm not saying that Bo won't be a #2 centre. I'm saying that there's no reason to write him off as 'only' a #2 centre at this point in his career as some do. He could easily develop into a #1. I do agree that we are likely going to end up with two very good centres in him and McCann. Quite likely who's line is the 'top line' will depend on the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 2 hours ago, J-Dizzle said: All speculation. There's still no way people should be pigeon holing Bo as a #2. He's already that at twenty. He is there only because Sutter is injured, don't be confused with him actually earning that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Just now, smokes said: He is there only because Sutter is injured, don't be confused with him actually earning that spot. He earned it out of training camp, struggled and made the absolute most of the opportunity he has had while Sutter has been out. The kid is putting up points left right and centre over the past dozen games. He is a second line centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Yeah, let's hold our horses on Bo too... I know he's relatively fresh to the NHL but he also had a slow start this season and didn't move into the 2C until Sutter got injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Prophet Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, smokes said: He is there only because Sutter is injured, don't be confused with him actually earning that spot. Sutter was brought in as a transitional center, a safety net to let Bo develop into a higher role. Through some bad luck for Sutter, Bo was forced to step up, and he has. Bo's line will be considered 2nd line going into next season, and Sutter will be third line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Canucks Prophet said: Sutter was brought in as a transitional center, a safety net to let Bo develop into a higher role. Through some bad luck for Sutter, Bo was forced to step up, and he has. Bo's line will be considered 2nd line going into next season, and Sutter will be third line. Yes, that's right Benning signed traded for and signed Sutter so he can be a 5 million dollar 3rd line center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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