Winter Soldier Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, J.R. said: Expose Sutter? Nope What happened to the 'asset management' crowd? Gotta trade off vets for seventh round picks but sure let's toss Guddy and Sutter aside. Not like we gave up assets to acquire in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Agreed, whenever I hear people saying too expose guys like Edler or Sutter Im left speechless. Those guys have value going forward, whether thats via trade or as leaders on the team. Trade em, don't lose em for nothing. 1 minute ago, Winter Soldier said: What happened to the 'asset management' crowd? Gotta trade off vets for seventh round picks but sure let's toss Guddy and Sutter aside. Not like we gave up assets to acquire in the first place! It's baffling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Agreed, whenever I hear people saying too expose guys like Edler or Sutter Im left speechless. Those guys have value going forward, whether thats via trade or as leaders on the team. Trade em, don't lose em for nothing. 3 minutes ago, Winter Soldier said: What happened to the 'asset management' crowd? Gotta trade off vets for seventh round picks but sure let's toss Guddy and Sutter aside. Not like we gave up assets to acquire in the first place! 1 minute ago, J.R. said: It's baffling And the ironic thing about that is that same group would be calling for Benning's head if said vets were traded for that little. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pears said: And the ironic thing about that is that same group would be calling for Benning's head if said vets were traded for that little. haha exactly, if Benning announced a trade before expansion( Sutter for a 4th.) People would be pissed. Yet they'd expose him and get nothing. I just don't get it sometimes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Pears said: And the ironic thing about that is that same group would be calling for Benning's head if said vets were traded for that little. 1 minute ago, RetroCanuck said: haha exactly, if Benning announced a trade before expansion( Sutter for a 4th.) People would be pissed. Yet they'd expose him and get nothing. I just don't get it sometimes Common sense, not actually common. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manroth19 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Can we just do this rebuild properly at the draft please. There's no reason why we can't take back a few bad contracts to get some good picks. Tanev and edler should both be gone for 1sts + cap dump. Top 2 plus foote and Thomas, 2 2nds boom done let's go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaslundLindenBure Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, manroth19 said: Can we just do this rebuild properly at the draft please. There's no reason why we can't take back a few bad contracts to get some good picks. Tanev and edler should both be gone for 1sts + cap dump. Top 2 plus foote and Thomas, 2 2nds boom done let's go only if they all pan out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) for next year we need to do what I hate to say but what the leafs did, sign two or three players UFA's and at the TDL trade them for picks as next year and so on after keep our players down to develope properly, in two years after this year we should be a great team if we can do this, plus draft good Oh and when do we get the draft, every 15 years or so we should get a draft or all star game and since we got the all star game last we should be getting the draft any year now Edited April 13, 2017 by cripplereh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, CanuckMan10 said: If we win either pick 1 or 2 in the lottery I hope we expose Sutter in the expansion draft. It would be nice to shed his salary and open a spot for Patrick or Hischier. The only problem I see would be our lack of PK guys. I doubt JB does it anyways. You're crazy man. Why expose somebody with good value? The goal isn't to give away good players for free to create a great Vegas team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manroth19 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, NaslundLindenBure said: only if they all pan out Oh I just meant doing trades at the draft. Not rebuild done. The cupboards would look a lot more full though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Every prospect is risky. I think Liljigren is more of a sure thing than Juolevi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, drummerboy said: You're crazy man. Why expose somebody with good value? The goal isn't to give away good players for free to create a great Vegas team. But he makes too much money, so best we get rid of him because of cap spa... well, okay we don't need that but just don't like him anyway so turf him out for nothing so Subban can play... I mean, Grenier. Oh, then with Vegas being better they can spank us and we'll lose more and get a better draft pick the next few years. Make sense now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedintwinpowersactivate Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Just now, flickyoursedin said: Every prospect is risky. I think Liljigren is more of a sure thing than Juolevi. I personally like Cale Makar better than Liljigren. This would be my top five. Patrick Hischier Mittlestadt Vilardi Makar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Sedintwinpowersactivate said: I personally like Cale Makar better than Liljigren. This would be my top five. Patrick Hischier Mittlestadt Vilardi Makar It's a good looking list. I'm also a fan of Makar but give the slight edge to Liljigren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedintwinpowersactivate Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I feel we need that offensive D man. Makar is more of a Letang type player. Liljigren is more of a Juolevi type player but could have Karlsson type IQ according to scouting reports. I think you couldn't go wrong either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 NHL final rankings Final Rank Midterm Rank Player Position Amateur Team League 1 1 PATRICK, NOLAN Center BRANDON WHL 2 2 HISCHIER, NICO Center HALIFAX QMJHL 3 5 MITTELSTADT, CASEY Center EDEN PRAIRIE HIGH-MN 4 3 VILARDI, GABRIEL Center WINDSOR OHL 5 6 RASMUSSEN, MICHAEL Center TRI-CITY WHL 6 8 GLASS, CODY Center PORTLAND WHL 7 4 TIPPETT, OWEN Right Wing MISSISSAUGA OHL 8 7 TOLVANEN, EELI Right Wing SIOUX CITY USHL 9 10 MAKAR, CALE Defenseman BROOKS AJHL 10 16 SUZUKI, NICK Center OWEN SOUND OHL 11 9 VALIMAKI, JUUSO Defenseman TRI-CITY WHL 12 12 FOOTE, CALLAN Defenseman KELOWNA WHL 13 14 POEHLING, RYAN Center ST. CLOUD STATE NCHC 14 34 ROBERTSON, JASON Left Wing KINGSTON OHL 15 20 RATCLIFFE, ISAAC Left Wing GUELPH OHL 16 13 BOWERS, SHANE Center WATERLOO USHL 17 17 YAMAMOTO, KAILER Right Wing SPOKANE WHL 18 26 TIMMINS, CONOR Defenseman SAULT STE. MARIE OHL 19 22 JOKIHARJU, HENRI Defenseman PORTLAND WHL 20 11 HAGUE, NICOLAS Defenseman MISSISSAUGA OHL 21 40 ANDERSON-DOLAN, JARET Center SPOKANE WHL 22 28 THOMAS, ROBERT Center LONDON OHL 23 21 LIND, KOLE Right Wing KELOWNA WHL 24 30 MISMASH, GRANT Left Wing USA U-18 NTDP 25 25 HENRY, NICK Right Wing REGINA WHL 26 36 HEPONIEMI, ALEKSI Center SWIFT CURRENT WHL 27 42 JOSEPH, PIERRE-OLIVIER Defenseman CHARLOTTETOWN QMJHL 28 18 POPUGAEV, NIKITA Left Wing PRINCE GEORGE WHL 29 24 FORMENTON, ALEX Left Wing LONDON OHL 30 15 COMTOIS, MAXIME Left Wing VICTORIAVILLE QMJHL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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D.B Cooper Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 16 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: But he makes too much money, so best we get rid of him because of cap spa... well, okay we don't need that but just don't like him anyway so turf him out for nothing so Subban can play... I mean, Grenier. Oh, then with Vegas being better they can spank us and we'll lose more and get a better draft pick the next few years. Make sense now? It's hard being a Canucks fan. Couple whacks is the head with a hammer might help me fit in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, kenhodgejr said: NHL final rankings Final Rank Midterm Rank Player Position Amateur Team League 1 1 PATRICK, NOLAN Center BRANDON WHL 2 2 HISCHIER, NICO Center HALIFAX QMJHL 3 5 MITTELSTADT, CASEY Center EDEN PRAIRIE HIGH-MN 4 3 VILARDI, GABRIEL Center WINDSOR OHL 5 6 RASMUSSEN, MICHAEL Center TRI-CITY WHL 6 8 GLASS, CODY Center PORTLAND WHL 7 4 TIPPETT, OWEN Right Wing MISSISSAUGA OHL 8 7 TOLVANEN, EELI Right Wing SIOUX CITY USHL 9 10 MAKAR, CALE Defenseman BROOKS AJHL 10 16 SUZUKI, NICK Center OWEN SOUND OHL 11 9 VALIMAKI, JUUSO Defenseman TRI-CITY WHL 12 12 FOOTE, CALLAN Defenseman KELOWNA WHL 13 14 POEHLING, RYAN Center ST. CLOUD STATE NCHC 14 34 ROBERTSON, JASON Left Wing KINGSTON OHL 15 20 RATCLIFFE, ISAAC Left Wing GUELPH OHL 16 13 BOWERS, SHANE Center WATERLOO USHL 17 17 YAMAMOTO, KAILER Right Wing SPOKANE WHL 18 26 TIMMINS, CONOR Defenseman SAULT STE. MARIE OHL 19 22 JOKIHARJU, HENRI Defenseman PORTLAND WHL 20 11 HAGUE, NICOLAS Defenseman MISSISSAUGA OHL 21 40 ANDERSON-DOLAN, JARET Center SPOKANE WHL 22 28 THOMAS, ROBERT Center LONDON OHL 23 21 LIND, KOLE Right Wing KELOWNA WHL 24 30 MISMASH, GRANT Left Wing USA U-18 NTDP 25 25 HENRY, NICK Right Wing REGINA WHL 26 36 HEPONIEMI, ALEKSI Center SWIFT CURRENT WHL 27 42 JOSEPH, PIERRE-OLIVIER Defenseman CHARLOTTETOWN QMJHL 28 18 POPUGAEV, NIKITA Left Wing PRINCE GEORGE WHL 29 24 FORMENTON, ALEX Left Wing LONDON OHL 30 15 COMTOIS, MAXIME Left Wing VICTORIAVILLE QMJHL Did Liljegrin really fall out of the 1st round? I doubt it, but that would be a great pick with our early 2nd! Just North American list here. Oops! Edited April 13, 2017 by drummerboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: Every prospect is risky. I think Liljigren is more of a sure thing than Juolevi. Aren't there major concerns about his defensive play? I keep hearing mixed reviews about him. Some say stay away and don't even take him in the 1st rd and other people have top 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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