messier's_elbow Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Odd. said: I feel like Vilardi will become a Sean Couturier type pick. Consistently puts up 35-40 points and may become a good 2nd line center and a very good 3rd line center. Both are 6'3 200lbs and are good strong players that love to play in the dirty areas. But IMO, I don't think Vilardi is the guy we should be looking for. We need an offensive center with 1st line potential and I don't think Vilardi is that type of guy. Personally I wouldn't draft him, not with our top pick anyway. If we were picking maybe 6-8 sure I'd pick Vilardi. But not with my top 5 pick. And I know I'll be taking a lot of heat for saying this. Apparently Vilardi isn't even on Benning's radar according to a reddit post about the canucks (link was posted a few pages ago) suggesting that Benning really likes Mittlestadt but obviously take it with a grain of salt. I really hope we come out with either Hischier or Mittlestadt. This would address our biggest problem. Finding a true star talent/future 1st line center. A little off topic, but I hope we see some big changes to our roster to help address forward depth and size issues. If JB isn't interested in Vilardi I'm questioning his existence as our GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyfresh Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 20 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: Liljegren is really messing with me right now. He was already a bit of a wildcard before, being a defenseman, but I thought he still had a realistic chance of being a good, if not very good player in the NHL. I'm not as convinced of that anymore based on his play at the U18's. He's getting badly outplayed by Heiskanen and hasn't really responded. I don't want to have this one tournament completely dictate what I think about him, but this is a big concern. Hopefully it's more of him still feeling the effects of mono rather than him actually showing alarming signs of stagnating, but I'm not sure which one it is. Except it isn't just this tournament; this whole season Liljegren has not looked like the top dman in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo0921 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 1 hour ago, J-Dizzle said: I think the 'drop the hammer' guys are less necessary than they once were. it is nice to have a number of big strong boys who can hold their own though. Horvat is a great example, we could use another couple guys like that (but what team couldn't?) A guy like Ferland fits because he keeps opposition wary and has offensive talent to compliment Boeser and Horvat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 23 minutes ago, J.R. said: Yeah.. probably going to 'Chychrun' in the draft I think based on this tournament he'll probably be an ideal pickup in the 6-10 range, anywhere past that is a steal in my eyes. Obviously that puts him outside our range. However, I think he could jump right back into the top-5 of it's determined that he's still feeling the effects of mono. Obviously I don't have the answe to that and I don't think anyone on this board does. If teams can determine that it will determine his general ranking in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: I think based on this tournament he'll probably be an ideal pickup in the 6-10 range, anywhere past that is a steal in my eyes. Obviously that puts him outside our range. However, I think he could jump right back into the top-5 of it's determined that he's still feeling the effects of mono. Obviously I don't have the answe to that and I don't think anyone on this board does. If teams can determine that it will determine his general ranking in the draft. I gave him mono. Trust me he's still feeling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: I think based on this tournament he'll probably be an ideal pickup in the 6-10 range, anywhere past that is a steal in my eyes. Obviously that puts him outside our range. However, I think he could jump right back into the top-5 of it's determined that he's still feeling the effects of mono. Obviously I don't have the answe to that and I don't think anyone on this board does. If teams can determine that it will determine his general ranking in the draft. Wouldn't be surprised to see him slip to the same 15+/- range Chychrun did. And that team will probably get a good player like ARZ did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, funkyfresh said: Except it isn't just this tournament; this whole season Liljegren has not looked like the top dman in the draft. I think the biggest reason is because of mono. Obviously he can't ride that forever, but I think that effectively nullified most, if not all of any possible effective development he could have had this year. I thought that he'd be fine by now, but based on this tournament he might not be. Obviously if he's healthy and playing like this then that's a big concern, but I don't know if he is. The only defenseman I can think of off the top of my head who was highly touted and lost a lot of time in his draft year is Reilly. Obviously his was probably more serious, given that he missed all that time with a knee injury, but maybe a somewhat similar situation. Reilly has turned out very well, so I hope we don't miss a high end defenseman who lost a lot of his draft year if we end up outside the top-2. 6 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: I gave him mono. Trust me he's still feeling it. Ummmmmm ok. 6 minutes ago, J.R. said: Wouldn't be surprised to see him slip to the same 15+/- range Chychrun did. And that team will probably get a good player like ARZ did. He very well could slip that far, I just think it would be too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Tryamkin taking team tank 2018 to another level! Hopefully he comes with Rasmus Dahlin for the 2019 season ;)! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 OK new scenario here bare with me 1. Win lottery. Go off the board, trade down to 7th or 8th pick up 1st this year 2nd this year 2nd next year and top D prospect from whoever it is. Draft Heiskanen (spelling?) 2. Trade Tanev/Edler to top 10-15 drafting team for their pick, draft falling Liljegren. 3. Suck soooo much butt next year win 1st overall draft Dahlin. Suck even worse next two years draft top center(s) in 2019 and 2020 Have D core of Juolevi/Dahlin/Heiskanen/Liljegren and whatever Shut down McJesus Set NHL records for GAA Win cups Profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, Warhippy said: OK new scenario here bare with me 1. Win lottery. Go off the board, trade down to 7th or 8th pick up 1st this year 2nd this year 2nd next year and top D prospect from whoever it is. Draft Heiskanen (spelling?) 2. Trade Tanev/Edler to top 10-15 drafting team for their pick, draft falling Liljegren. 3. Suck soooo much butt next year win 1st overall draft Dahlin. Suck even worse next two years draft top center(s) in 2019 and 2020 Have D core of Juolevi/Dahlin/Heiskanen/Liljegren and whatever Shut down McJesus Set NHL records for GAA Win cups Profit Too much European content, need some good Canadian kids in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Warhippy said: OK new scenario here bare with me 1. Win lottery. Go off the board, trade down to 7th or 8th pick up 1st this year 2nd this year 2nd next year and top D prospect from whoever it is. Draft Heiskanen (spelling?) 2. Trade Tanev/Edler to top 10-15 drafting team for their pick, draft falling Liljegren. 3. Suck soooo much butt next year win 1st overall draft Dahlin. Suck even worse next two years draft top center(s) in 2019 and 2020 Have D core of Juolevi/Dahlin/Heiskanen/Liljegren and whatever Shut down McJesus Set NHL records for GAA Win cups Profit Pretty sure we'd still draft a C and a D this year in that scenario. Something like one of Necas/Glass/Suzuki + Makar/Heiskanen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Just now, DeNiro said: Too much European content, need some good Canadian kids in there. All our forwards man Just now, J.R. said: Pretty sure we'd still draft a C and a D this year in that scenario. Something like one of Necas/Glass/Suzuki + Makar/Heiskanen. Shhhhh....let me have this one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV's Coin Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Warhippy said: OK new scenario here bare with me 1. Win lottery. Go off the board, trade down to 7th or 8th pick up 1st this year 2nd this year 2nd next year and top D prospect from whoever it is. Draft Heiskanen (spelling?) 2. Trade Tanev/Edler to top 10-15 drafting team for their pick, draft falling Liljegren. 3. Suck soooo much butt next year win 1st overall draft Dahlin. Suck even worse next two years draft top center(s) in 2019 and 2020 Have D core of Juolevi/Dahlin/Heiskanen/Liljegren and whatever Shut down McJesus Set NHL records for GAA Win cups Profit New Predators confirmed. Edited April 21, 2017 by AV's Coin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, AV's Coin said: New Predators confirmed. So we sweep the Hawks. Big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV's Coin Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Sounds good to me! I'm just surprised you did not have Foote in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, AV's Coin said: Sounds good to me! I'm just surprised you did not have Foote in there. I want him, I just kinda see Heskainen as the better skater/point producer and Foote as the better defender. There's a spot for him. But... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Warhippy said: I want him, I just kinda see Heskainen as the better skater/point producer and Foote as the better defender. There's a spot for him. But... If Tryamkin hadn't &^@#ed off, we could have moved Edler and Tanev and grabbed him too Edited April 21, 2017 by J.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoreanHockeyFan Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 10 hours ago, J.R. said: If he and/or management knew he was heading back to Russia, he shouldn't have even been part of the press conference and put in a position to have to lie. Well if he had kept it to himself then you can't blame management for putting him in the press conference. Bottom line, no one will ever know what exactly happened or didn't happen, or who said what. Let's just leave the speculating to the media pundits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blömqvist Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 2 hours ago, flickyoursedin said: Tryamkin taking team tank 2018 to another level! Hopefully he comes with Rasmus Dahlin for the 2019 season ;)! That's the most positivity I've seen all day! I like it!! (Much better than the doom and gloom I heard all morning on TSN1040) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manroth19 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 2 hours ago, J.R. said: If Tryamkin hadn't &^@#ed off, we could have moved Edler and Tanev and grabbed him too Him leaving shouldn't change the teams plans. We are rebuilding are we not? Tanev should be moved for a mid 1st same with edler for a late 1st/high 2nd (prolly the latter) and replaced with some stop gap dmen via ufa. The organizations goal should be as many picks in the top 65 as possible. Tank away one more season and hope we've acquired enough talent to replaced the sedins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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