Bo53 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Even though having Juolevi and either Makar or Heiskanen in our system would be incredible, I will be disappointed with yet another draft not addressing our centre problem. JB, please pick Glass or Vilardi, heck even get the European twig in Pettersen if he's whats best for us. We NEED a centre prospect and we need it bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) We really do need another top ten pick. Nabbing one of the top centers AND one of the top Dmen would go a long ways towards our rebuild. If we move Tanev to Dallas in a deal involving their 3rd overall. 3rd- Vilardi 5th- Heiskanen/Makar If we move Tanev to Buffalo in a deal involving their 8th overall. 5th- Heiskanen/Makar 8th- Pettersson Either one of these scenarios will make me very happy. Edited June 18, 2017 by 48MPHSlapShot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 4 hours ago, RetroCanuck said: Hirshier Patrick Vilardi Glass Heiskanen Petrersson Makar Id be stoked with any of these guys! Guaranteed at least one falls in our laps. Really hoping for a Tanev trade and another top ten pick I mean yeah it's certain some of these players will be available at 5th but then again Tkachuk fell into Vancouver last draft and see how that turned out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 48MPHSlapShot Posted June 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 minute ago, iinatcc said: I mean yeah it's certain some of these players will be available at 5th but then again Tkachuk fell into Vancouver last draft and see how that turned out Yup. We ended up with the best defenseman in the draft 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 minute ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Yup. We ended up with the best defenseman in the draft Remains to be seen, I mean right now Chychrun is playing in the NHL and did quite well as a rookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faustino Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Honky Cat said: If Glass is still available at #5...I believe thats who the Canucks will pick....If Glass is not available,that's anybody guess. I want Glass and I'll want Tanev traded. Trade up or trade down but his value will never be higher and his bo trade clause hasn't kicked in yet. Let's kick them rebuild into overdrive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Camel Toe Drag Posted June 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, iinatcc said: Remains to be seen, I mean right now Chychrun is playing in the NHL and did quite well as a rookie Hahahaha it never ends 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 6 hours ago, R3aL said: Vilardi + Glass/Pettersson Would be an amazing haul. Dahlen-Glass/Pettersson-Boeser Baerstchi-Horvat-Vilardi Goldobin-Gaudette-Virtanen i would be down with that Unless Heiskanen drops this is what we should be doing. Trading Tanev to get Vilardi and Glass would be our best draft since the Sedins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aGENT Posted June 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2017 51 minutes ago, iinatcc said: Remains to be seen, I mean right now Chychrun is playing in the NHL and did quite well as a rookie NHL readiness is a poor metric to draft by IMO. Particularly if you're very far away from contending (as we are). For example, either DAL or PHI could be forgiven for taking more NHL ready players as they're a lot closer to contending. Or heck even CAL last year with Tkachuck (though it's likely they'd have taken him anyway). Vancouver on the other hand is years out and can afford to wait for OJ. And a top 4 D IMO is worth more than a middle 6 W no matter how much more 'ready' he is. Same reason I have Heiskanen at 9 in this draft, after both Liljegrin and Makar. Good player, high floor, almost guaranteed top 4 D and likely ready in 1-2 years... but if Lilj/Makar turn out, and even if they take 3-4 years to get there, they will be far more valuable players. Too much 'readiness bias'. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: Vilardi is a natural C. Only played wing last year other than that C growing up and when he started in WHL. Spitfires just had too much depth down middle. Good to know..thanks....I remember PLD being touted as a C last year,only to learn that he was predominately playing wing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, J.R. said: NHL readiness is a poor metric to draft by IMO. Particularly if you're very far away from contending (as we are). For example, either DAL or PHI could be forgiven for taking more NHL ready players as they're a lot closer to contending. Or heck even CAL last year with Tkachuck (though it's likely they'd have taken him anyway). Vancouver on the other hand is years out and can afford to wait for OJ. And a top 4 D IMO is worth more than a middle 6 W no matter how much more 'ready' he is. Same reason I have Heiskanen at 9 in this draft, after both Liljegrin and Makar. Good player, high floor, almost guaranteed top 4 D and likely ready in 1-2 years... but if Lilj/Makar turn out, and even if they take 3-4 years to get there, they will be far more valuable players. Too much 'readiness bias'. Absolutely agree with your philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: Vilardi is a natural C. Only played wing last year other than that C growing up and when he started in WHL. Spitfires just had too much depth down middle. I know that. I'm saying that Vilardi would be good because he knows how to play both center and wing whereas Glass can only play center. Vilardi gives us a bit of flexibility and he's also a right handed shot so he can rotate taking faceoffs with Horvat. Vilardi has really grown on me over the past few weeks. I would draft him if we can somehow get that 3rd overall pick. The way he turned it on during the mem cup really opened my eyes as to how dominant he can be in clutch times. The way he steals pucks and sets his teammates up for that crucial pass as well as his physicality screams Jamie Benn 2.0. Benn was also drafted as a center but converted to the wing. Lots of different line combinations Dahlen/Mittlestadt/Vilardi Baertschi/Horvat/Vilardi Dahlen/Horvat/Vilardi Baertschi/Mittlestadt/Vilardi edit: paragraph mysteriously disappeared Edited June 18, 2017 by Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 If we trade Tanev we should try to get a pick in the 2018 1st round. A lot more quality defensemen available no matter where we pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo53 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 hours ago, flickyoursedin said: I wonder if the lack of talk is just because they feel Vilardi played himself out of the Canucks range. I do think Pettersson will be the better offensive player out of the two. However Vilardi the better playoff player which is what it's all about is it not. I am a huge Pettersson fan but if I had the choice I'd lean to taking Vilardi as it stands right now. If he is out of range and that's why JB isn't talking about him much, maybe he isn't high enough on Vilardi to trade up for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 As important as anything to a rebuild is creating a buzz about the team. Getting 3rd and 5th in the same draft would create this and signal a point in time for everyone to rally around and believe in. Takes balls to do it. Got those JB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 27 minutes ago, Bo53 said: If he is out of range and that's why JB isn't talking about him much, maybe he isn't high enough on Vilardi to trade up for him Vilardi is not out of range at all (if anything,he's predicted to fall a spot or two,like Tkachuk did last year) Vilardi is considered a 'power forward'..whereas Glass is a more well rounded '200 ft' player Both are good choices..Just st depends on what the Canucks want ..For all we know,the Canucks could have Pettersen rated above both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Some rumours leaking out about Banning happy with a centre prospect for tanev. Names being Strome Reinhardt etc. Does this change things in regards to the draft if he indeed is targeting a player over a pick? Gets his center then drafts a long term D in Liljegren or Makar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Just now, Warhippy said: Some rumours leaking out about Banning happy with a centre prospect for tanev. Names being Strome Reinhardt etc. Does this change things in regards to the draft if he indeed is targeting a player over a pick? Gets his center then drafts a long term D in Liljegren or Makar? Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Some rumours leaking out about Banning happy with a centre prospect for tanev. Names being Strome Reinhardt etc. Does this change things in regards to the draft if he indeed is targeting a player over a pick? Gets his center then drafts a long term D in Liljegren or Makar? I'd be super happy if after the draft we have Sam Reinhart and Cale Makar. Could we be looking at Chucky? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 17 minutes ago, Outsiders said: Source? The post above yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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