rekker Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Dahlen, EP, Hughes our future 3 on 3 overtime unit. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Yeah, maybe it was a little harsh commenting on Gaunce's work ethic. I have no idea how hard he works at improving his game. I wanted Gaunce to do well, and to be a big part of the team, but he hasn't done anything yet to earn that spot. He is pretty good defensively, and maybe if Benning didn't go out and sign more veteran UFAs, Gaunce would have a shot in the bottom 6. He might still get a shot later in the year when injuries hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: I think Gaunce took it for granted that he was in the Canucks system, with no other real prospects in his way over the last few years. I question his work ethic. Some mighty big assumptions there. From what I've heard (and seen) BG always comes to camp in top condition. 2 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: A young player with size like that should've been way more hungry. Now, he is being passed by Pettersson, Dahlen, Goldobin, Leipsic and Gaudette. He's certainly not competing with Pettersson, Dahlen or Goldobin, who are top 6 guys and I don't see Gaudette playing 4th LW. I would say his main competition is Schaller, who is injured right now. I'm quite certain that Gaunce has been well aware of his precarious situation and has been working hard to improve his game this summer. 2 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: It would be great if Dahlen and Pettersson made the team at the same time. They've already got great chemistry, why break that up? Would like to see them start the year on the 3rd line with Beagle as their C. They would be somewhat sheltered here, and could learn from a SC Champ right from the get-go. I'm sure they'll be given plenty of opportunities to team up together during trading camp. The big question is whether these young prospects will be able to play out an 82 game season in the best league in the world. Does JB risk trading an NHL vet only to have a rookie 'peter out' half way through the season? Or, does he have them percolating in the AHL and bring them up during the season? I think we'll see Pettersson and maybe Gaudette make the team out of training camp and then others will follow in the new year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 42 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Well, if he's been giving it 100% over the years, then he's just not a very good player. He might be a good depth player on another team. But who knows. Maybe he worked his butt off in the off season and comes back with more bite and some offence in his game. Camp will tell all. I remember last year he was near the top in fitness testing. I think he just lacks the skills and skating to be anything more than a fourth liner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, rekker said: Dahlen, EP, Hughes our future 3 on 3 overtime unit. Can't wait. That leaves Bo, BB and OJ for the second unit....er...first unit....that is a 1A and another 1A.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Jester13 said: Although I think questioning his work ethic might be a little harsh, I do think one can hypothesize that he subconsciously took the lack of competition for granted (this can be natural for even the best of them - of course, this can never be proven, but complacency is a real thing in any profession. Thankfully, our management has created an environment that discourages complacent behaviour (Are you listening, Goldie, Baer, Granny?). I, personally, just think he's not that good compared to our new prospects, and that he will be passed very soon by someone. But, he could surprise and be a late bloomer, and I would be fine with that and happy if it happens. Burrows compares Baer's drive to Horvat's. WD says that he was never as hard on Baer as he was on himself and that sometimes he gets in his own way because he is so hard on himself. He says he had time for Baer because he never complained and just went to work. Green says of all the players he had in Portland no one worked harder than him. Edited September 11, 2018 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 3 hours ago, mll said: Burrows compares Baer's drive to Horvat's. WD says that he was never as hard on Baer as he was on himself and that sometimes he gets in his own way because he is so hard on himself. He says he had time for Baer because he never complained and just went to work. Green says of all the players he had in Portland no one worked harder than him. I'll have to take your word on what these guys have said about him. I do think he works hard, but I still think he will need to work even harder to keep his spot long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 4 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: Yeah, maybe it was a little harsh commenting on Gaunce's work ethic. I have no idea how hard he works at improving his game. I wanted Gaunce to do well, and to be a big part of the team, but he hasn't done anything yet to earn that spot. He is pretty good defensively, and maybe if Benning didn't go out and sign more veteran UFAs, Gaunce would have a shot in the bottom 6. He might still get a shot later in the year when injuries hit. He lead the entire NHL in defensive zone starts, on a terrible team, yet finished even. He plays a very detailed game and is hugely underrated. He didn't get many offensive opportunities but still scored close to a 10 goal pace which is what you want from your 4th liners. If he played centre and was great at faceoffs it would drastically improve his value IMO. The year he took the most faceoffs he was 51.2% so he might not be bad given the opportunity to take more draws. I think he is somewhat comparable to Jay Beagle. Jay didn't even have 10 career NHL goals until he was 27 and didn't have a 5 goal or 10 point season until 28 where he broke out with 10/10. I like Gaunce and would like to see him stay healthy and perhaps develop into a more valuable bottom 6 player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Dahlen has actually surprised me. I am really hoping he carries on with his scoring going forward from here. EP definitely helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 7 hours ago, drummerboy said: He hasn’t been passed by anyone yet. Training camp hasn’t even started. A rookie camp means nothing more than a little hype for the new kids. Guance has just as much of a chance as all of them Gaunce has been totally passed. Gaunce doesn't have the talent to play in the NHL at least with the depth the Canucks have. And if he gets a sniff again its totally because of injuries. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, cory40 said: Gaunce has been totally passed. Gaunce doesn't have the talent to play in the NHL at least with the depth the Canucks have. And if he gets a sniff again its totally because of injuries. None of that is true..... yet. No camp yet, no one has passed him. Doesnt have nhl talent? He played last year in the NHL. He doesn’t score, but he is a defensively talented 4th liner. He he knows the youth is coming. Do you really think he is just sitting on his thumbs waiting to lose his job? I’d put money on him busting his ass and coming to camp ready to compete. Sure, he might get beaten out, but he also isn’t competing for any of the same jobs as the kids. He is going against the 3 new FA signings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Just now, drummerboy said: None of that is true..... yet. No camp yet, no one has passed him. Doesnt have nhl talent? He played last year in the NHL. He doesn’t score, but he is a defensively talented 4th liner. He he knows the youth is coming. Do you really think he is just sitting on his thumbs waiting to lose his job? I’d put money on him busting his ass and coming to camp ready to compete. Sure, he might get beaten out, but he also isn’t competing for any of the same jobs as the kids. He is going against the 3 new FA signings True camp hasn't happened yet. So where do you pen him in and who does he beat out? If he manages to be great defensively is that enough? I really doubt he can turn the corner. Usually you get some indication when a player plays a year, and many skilled players never get the second chance. I am convinced Gaunce is done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) nevermind Edited September 12, 2018 by Crabcakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhdlois Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I really hope Dahlen can somehow make the team, or at the very least get a quick call-up.....he has so much chemistry with EP40 it would be a shame not to have them together......and the team would only benefit from it...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, cory40 said: True camp hasn't happened yet. So where do you pen him in and who does he beat out? If he manages to be great defensively is that enough? I really doubt he can turn the corner. Usually you get some indication when a player plays a year, and many skilled players never get the second chance. I am convinced Gaunce is done Benning may have answered your question by signing Schaller. Utica is going to be stacked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 4 hours ago, cory40 said: True camp hasn't happened yet. So where do you pen him in and who does he beat out? If he manages to be great defensively is that enough? I really doubt he can turn the corner. Usually you get some indication when a player plays a year, and many skilled players never get the second chance. I am convinced Gaunce is done I personally, don’t know if he makes the team or not, but it is ignorant to say he is done before even going through camp. Chances are he is going into camp ready to fight for a spot. And is being great defensively enough to have an NHL career? Ask Manny that question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vannuck59 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 What spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, vannuck59 said: What spot? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vannuck59 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 32 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: Oh yah that spot 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vannuck59 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Guance needs to up his compete to get a spot, Dahlen does not, he has compete in spades . the future looks bright 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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