Baer. Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Salter said: Team relocation: 56% Yes Anybody wanna trade divisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 In addition to this, the commissioner team is considering 2 more changes for next year. 1. Change lineup lock times from the start of the first game each day, to the start of each player's game. That means, if a player has an afternoon game (as is often the case on weekends) you can still make changes to other players in your lineup that aren't involved in that game. 2. Changing the playoff system to the one in BFHL. For those that are unfamiliar, it takes all the points from every player's game 1, and compares it to your opponent. Whoever has more game 1 points, wins the game and takes a 1-0 series lead. Repeat for game 2 totals, and make it a best of 7 series. We feel that many of our playoff matchups have been lopsided, and this would not only be a good way to make things closer, but also differentiate Puck from every other Salary Cap league on the planet. Art made a spreadsheet for the BFHL playoffs, which you can find here to see what exactly we're talking about: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Wesk-0ozGGx47jeBqHv8CoHu-UXDcQMWlh4eA8-hNI/edit#gid=583176337 Let us know your thoughts on these. As it stands, the commish team is unanimously in favour of both changes. P.s. hurry up and vote for GM of the year if you haven't already! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 HEY HEY HEY HEY!!! I didn’t make that for the degenerates of Puck to have a look at... I’m just kidding, I love you all. Except maybe @Sestito'sHandMadeVodka. He’s a leafs fan. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Art Vandelay said: HEY HEY HEY HEY!!! I didn’t make that for the degenerates of Puck to have a look at... I’m just kidding, I love you all. Except maybe @Sestito'sHandMadeVodka. He’s a leafs fan. Don't call us degenerates. We don't know what that means. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombastik der Teutone Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Quote 1. Change lineup lock times from the start of the first game each day, to the start of each player's game. That means, if a player has an afternoon game (as is often the case on weekends) you can still make changes to other players in your lineup that aren't involved in that game. 2. Changing the playoff system to the one in BFHL. For those that are unfamiliar, it takes all the points from every player's game 1, and compares it to your opponent. Whoever has more game 1 points, wins the game and takes a 1-0 series lead. Repeat for game 2 totals, and make it a best of 7 series. 1. is really okay. its annoying if there are pretty early games and you ve forgot to set your roster at this time. 2. not really a fan of this but may the majority decide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sygvard Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Master Mind said: 2. Changing the playoff system to the one in BFHL. For those that are unfamiliar, it takes all the points from every player's game 1, and compares it to your opponent. Whoever has more game 1 points, wins the game and takes a 1-0 series lead. Repeat for game 2 totals, and make it a best of 7 series. We feel that many of our playoff matchups have been lopsided, and this would not only be a good way to make things closer, but also differentiate Puck from every other Salary Cap league on the planet. Art made a spreadsheet for the BFHL playoffs, which you can find here to see what exactly we're talking about: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Wesk-0ozGGx47jeBqHv8CoHu-UXDcQMWlh4eA8-hNI/edit#gid=58317633 Wouldn't this make it so there was just a HUGE negative impact of your players winning a series decisively and quickly IRL? (Which there is already some of) It would make it matter less that they racked up a lot of points in the early wins. Since even a 10 goal game only gives you at most one "win". Then you end up auto-losing three wins late because you arent playing anymore. And your oponent has one 4th liner who got a single hit in game 7. You are right that it might be a good move for parity in the league. And I do like head to heads. But some of that parity will be through the creation of some weird situations, and worse teams winning on technicalities. Gotta be ready to accept that. I'm down for it if others are though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sygvard said: Wouldn't this make it so there was just a HUGE negative impact of your players winning a series decisively and quickly IRL? (Which there is already some of) It would make it matter less that they racked up a lot of points in the early wins. Since even a 10 goal game only gives you at most one "win". Then you end up auto-losing three wins late because you arent playing anymore. And your oponent has one 4th liner who got a single hit in game 7. You are right that it might be a good move for parity in the league. And I do like head to heads. But some of that parity will be through the creation of some weird situations, and worse teams winning on technicalities. Gotta be ready to accept that. I'm down for it if others are though. I'm down with the line change timing for sure. But I'm also hesitant about the playoff scoring shift... need more info on that I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 50 minutes ago, Sygvard said: Wouldn't this make it so there was just a HUGE negative impact of your players winning a series decisively and quickly IRL? (Which there is already some of) It would make it matter less that they racked up a lot of points in the early wins. Since even a 10 goal game only gives you at most one "win". Then you end up auto-losing three wins late because you arent playing anymore. And your oponent has one 4th liner who got a single hit in game 7. You are right that it might be a good move for parity in the league. And I do like head to heads. But some of that parity will be through the creation of some weird situations, and worse teams winning on technicalities. Gotta be ready to accept that. I'm down for it if others are though. Thanks for bringing that up. If you have a player that won their series early, you'd get their average points the rest of the way. Let's say the Blues sweep the Sharks, and Schenn picks up 20 points in the process (5 ppg) he'd then earn his team 5 points in games 5-7 of his series. This wouldn't apply if the player lost his series, so no Shark in this example would earn points in games 5-7. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombastik der Teutone Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 funny that my team would be curretnly a top team in the playoffs ...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 @thejazz97, you might have to trade for a 3rd round pick soon since you don’t have one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said: @thejazz97, you might have to trade for a 3rd round pick soon since you don’t have one NO WAY Edited May 10, 2019 by thejazz97 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salter Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I'm looking to wheel and deal this weekend while I'm prepping a bunch of stuff for the draft. My focus is all on puck so if anybody is looking to make trades send me a message. I have unofficially opened the auction for the 2nd overall pick. On the block: Mike Green (4.19 fp/g) Brad Richardson (3.28 fp/g) Bobby Ryan (3.08fp/g) Alexander Nylander (prospect) Brandon Sutter (1.78fp/g) Chad Ruhwedel (1.96fp/g) (rights to) Michael Haley (rights to) Ales Stezka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salter Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 A hattrick today, 5 goals in 2 games, all against men older than him. Keep sending in those offers for #2 And @WalkWithElias40, you decide yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroe Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 On 5/9/2019 at 2:32 PM, maroe said: Meier is going to score a hatty's every night. Be sure to quote me when i win Thats two already. One more to go 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestito'sHandMadeVodka Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Okay, so I've thought about it, and I think the issue I have with changing the playoff scoring format is that it injects more randomness into an already extremely random playoffs. Like, if Timo Meier gets another hat trick in game 3, and the Sharks sweep the blues, suddenly meier is a 1.5 gpg player in that series? A goalie who wins in a sweep, maybe gets a shutout, is suddenly worth a win and a quarter of a shutout in every 7 games? Good luck beating that team. Plus is wuld provide even more weight to players than advance than already exists. Maybe that's a benefit - more exciting 2nd round playoffs, since the guys who won the first round are more likely to carry on. But either way it just feels like more variable thrown into a pretty chaotic and random playoff system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroe Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, Sestito'sHandMadeVodka said: Okay, so I've thought about it, and I think the issue I have with changing the playoff scoring format is that it injects more randomness into an already extremely random playoffs. Like, if Timo Meier gets another hat trick in game 3, and the Sharks sweep the blues, suddenly meier is a 1.5 gpg player in that series? A goalie who wins in a sweep, maybe gets a shutout, is suddenly worth a win and a quarter of a shutout in every 7 games? Good luck beating that team. Plus is wuld provide even more weight to players than advance than already exists. Maybe that's a benefit - more exciting 2nd round playoffs, since the guys who won the first round are more likely to carry on. But either way it just feels like more variable thrown into a pretty chaotic and random playoff system. Glad I have another hat-trick Meier supporter . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindiculous Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 On 5/9/2019 at 4:58 PM, Art Vandelay said: Yes!! I very much approve of this. Hilariously, when teams sign guys to these new max length contracts this summer, I’ll be retaining on Weber’s contract for a few years after those expire... Hahahaha I’m happy about this @mastermind Yah I know I feel a bit better now Lolol. If I made the next round I would have at least had a tiny chance to be the juggernaut coyotes lolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindiculous Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 On 5/9/2019 at 10:55 PM, Master Mind said: In addition to this, the commissioner team is considering 2 more changes for next year. 1. Change lineup lock times from the start of the first game each day, to the start of each player's game. That means, if a player has an afternoon game (as is often the case on weekends) you can still make changes to other players in your lineup that aren't involved in that game. 2. Changing the playoff system to the one in BFHL. For those that are unfamiliar, it takes all the points from every player's game 1, and compares it to your opponent. Whoever has more game 1 points, wins the game and takes a 1-0 series lead. Repeat for game 2 totals, and make it a best of 7 series. We feel that many of our playoff matchups have been lopsided, and this would not only be a good way to make things closer, but also differentiate Puck from every other Salary Cap league on the planet. Art made a spreadsheet for the BFHL playoffs, which you can find here to see what exactly we're talking about: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Wesk-0ozGGx47jeBqHv8CoHu-UXDcQMWlh4eA8-hNI/edit#gid=583176337 Let us know your thoughts on these. As it stands, the commish team is unanimously in favour of both changes. P.s. hurry up and vote for GM of the year if you haven't already! I am a fan of these things. But for number two I really agree. When I joined the league I was surprised it wasn’t run this way cause there have been so many blowouts and we already know who’s gonna win the cup this year. Splitting it by games makes so much more sense to me cause if a player goes off in one game they can win a game and make a series more intense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Canuck Surfer Posted May 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2019 On 5/10/2019 at 2:55 PM, Master Mind said: In addition to this, the commissioner team is considering 2 more changes for next year. 1. Change lineup lock times from the start of the first game each day, to the start of each player's game. That means, if a player has an afternoon game (as is often the case on weekends) you can still make changes to other players in your lineup that aren't involved in that game. 2. Changing the playoff system to the one in BFHL. For those that are unfamiliar, it takes all the points from every player's game 1, and compares it to your opponent. Whoever has more game 1 points, wins the game and takes a 1-0 series lead. Repeat for game 2 totals, and make it a best of 7 series. We feel that many of our playoff matchups have been lopsided, and this would not only be a good way to make things closer, but also differentiate Puck from every other Salary Cap league on the planet. Art made a spreadsheet for the BFHL playoffs, which you can find here to see what exactly we're talking about: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Wesk-0ozGGx47jeBqHv8CoHu-UXDcQMWlh4eA8-hNI/edit#gid=583176337 Let us know your thoughts on these. As it stands, the commish team is unanimously in favour of both changes. P.s. hurry up and vote for GM of the year if you haven't already! Changing Line up times, as long as you don't pull a player who has already started, does not seem a big deal. Regarding lopsided play off teams? Not sure a new play off scoring system is the answer. If teams are stacked, teams are stacked. Its a trickle down of all our systems, example, retain 4 times, get an intermediary to retain in two of the transactions? Renders it possible for a good negotiator to stack his team. If that is allowed (hint, hint), why should they be punished for having a stacked team? Real issues in Puck are competitive balance. Too many teams in a turtle derby. $20 mill plus in retained salary on some teams? Intentionally sitting players, who are in fact playing, on game days. So they don't accumulate points. ie intentionally throwing results to tank. And our best teams have line ups that really have $90 or $95 mill in salary. * I suggest a hard and fast rule that you must maintain the salary cap minimum in players you legitimately have on your team. ** And maximum $7 mill in retained salaries / Maximum $7 million in salary benefit from retention. *** And limit the # of times a player can be retained on to one. In the past, complaints have surfaced that play off teams have hoarded / buried players, who were in fact playing. So we reduced our # of games till waivers to 125. That starts this year. Some of those players, whom can no longer be buried were & will be spread by the start of 2019/20. We also need to see the effect of this change. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/9/2019 at 9:55 PM, Master Mind said: In addition to this, the commissioner team is considering 2 more changes for next year. 1. Change lineup lock times from the start of the first game each day, to the start of each player's game. That means, if a player has an afternoon game (as is often the case on weekends) you can still make changes to other players in your lineup that aren't involved in that game. 2. Changing the playoff system to the one in BFHL. For those that are unfamiliar, it takes all the points from every player's game 1, and compares it to your opponent. Whoever has more game 1 points, wins the game and takes a 1-0 series lead. Repeat for game 2 totals, and make it a best of 7 series. We feel that many of our playoff matchups have been lopsided, and this would not only be a good way to make things closer, but also differentiate Puck from every other Salary Cap league on the planet. Art made a spreadsheet for the BFHL playoffs, which you can find here to see what exactly we're talking about: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Wesk-0ozGGx47jeBqHv8CoHu-UXDcQMWlh4eA8-hNI/edit#gid=583176337 Let us know your thoughts on these. As it stands, the commish team is unanimously in favour of both changes. P.s. hurry up and vote for GM of the year if you haven't already! I'm definitely in favour of both changes. The first one should be a no brainer that I think everyone will agree on... I'm sure we've all been burned by the old rule on some occasions #2 seems like it would be more exciting than the current one for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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