JM_ Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: It's crazy how some fans get pissed about letting a 5th round pick walk. They seem to forget exactly what you're stating. We have a 50 man contracts available. If we sign every fringe guy, we wouldn't have room to sign guys like Karlsson and make a run at Kuzmenko. Improving means knowing who to sign and who to let go. the ghost of Frankie Corrado lurks these halls... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 19 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: It's crazy how some fans get pissed about letting a 5th round pick walk. They seem to forget exactly what you're stating. We have a 50 man contracts available. If we sign every fringe guy, we wouldn't have room to sign guys like Karlsson and make a run at Kuzmenko. Improving means knowing who to sign and who to let go. Yep, you got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run. Cause if you insist on playing every single hand, you will go broke really fast. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Do we know for sure that he hasn't been offered a contract and turned it down? Or that his Agent has told the Canucks " Don't bother"? After all, he is a teammate of Lukas Jasek who can't have much nice to say about the Canucks after the way we treated him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Googlie said: Do we know for sure that he hasn't been offered a contract and turned it down? Or that his Agent has told the Canucks " Don't bother"? After all, he is a teammate of Lukas Jasek who can't have much nice to say about the Canucks after the way we treated him Canucks have determined that he has no value in the organization. The fact that his exclusive negotiating rights haven't been traded means that the rest of the NHL doesn't believe that they are worth a 7th round pick or equivalent. So, with that in mind, why are you worried about us offering him a contract? He'll have a nice career in Finland as a 2nd or 3rd pairing D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Googlie said: Do we know for sure that he hasn't been offered a contract and turned it down? Or that his Agent has told the Canucks " Don't bother"? After all, he is a teammate of Lukas Jasek who can't have much nice to say about the Canucks after the way we treated him Utunen is a Left shot, he's 22, and he hasn't really done anything remarkable in the Liiga. I can see why the new Canucks management aren't that interested in giving him an ELC. You have to remember that most picks don't work out and of the 5th round picks taken in 2018, only one player Yegor Sharangovich (New Jersey Devils) has played over 100 games so far, and only three other players from that 5th round draft class have played NHL games -- and those players have all played under 10 NHL games each. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 He never really progressed after being drafted. He seemed like a guy who could actually fill in a bottom pairing role without hurting the team but undersized stay at home dmen aren't a hot commodity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 So many throw away late round picks by Benning. 2014-Nikita Tryamkin, Gustav Forsling, Kyle Pettit, Mackenze Stewart 2015-Dmitry Zhukenov, Carl Neill, Lukas Jasek, Tate Olson 2016-Cole Candella, Jakob Stukel, Rodrigo Abols, Brett McKenzie 2017-Kristoffer Gunnarson, Petrus Palmu, Matt Brassard 2018-Toni Utunen, Artem Manukyan, Matthew Thiessen Imagine if one or two of the list of these stellar picks turned out in the Canucks favor. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VegasCanuck Posted June 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, bigbadcanucks said: So many throw away late round picks by Benning. 2014-Nikita Tryamkin, Gustav Forsling, Kyle Pettit, Mackenze Stewart 2015-Dmitry Zhukenov, Carl Neill, Lukas Jasek, Tate Olson 2016-Cole Candella, Jakob Stukel, Rodrigo Abols, Brett McKenzie 2017-Kristoffer Gunnarson, Petrus Palmu, Matt Brassard 2018-Toni Utunen, Artem Manukyan, Matthew Thiessen Imagine if one or two of the list of these stellar picks turned out in the Canucks favor. Do you have any idea what the chances are of finding someone who will develop into an impact player past the first round? Tryamkin could have a solid NHL career right now, but decided that he's happier back in Russia. Forsling has developed into a solid NHL D, but after another team also moved him. Jasek could easily come back. All picks past #20 in the first round are a crap shoot. You look at the potential of a player and hope that with the right development, they can transcend their shortcomings that are present when you draft them. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fanuck Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Waiting for the 'failed asset management' cries......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Devron Posted June 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2022 14 hours ago, bigbadcanucks said: So many throw away late round picks by Benning. 2014-Nikita Tryamkin, Gustav Forsling, Kyle Pettit, Mackenze Stewart 2015-Dmitry Zhukenov, Carl Neill, Lukas Jasek, Tate Olson 2016-Cole Candella, Jakob Stukel, Rodrigo Abols, Brett McKenzie 2017-Kristoffer Gunnarson, Petrus Palmu, Matt Brassard 2018-Toni Utunen, Artem Manukyan, Matthew Thiessen Imagine if one or two of the list of these stellar picks turned out in the Canucks favor. Practically every team looks like that regarding late rounders 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) So he is no longer a Canucks prospect, nor an alumnus, so time to remove him and move on. I had hopes for him - seemed like a good kid (and there was always that heartbreaking goal against Canada....) Edited June 1, 2022 by Googlie Spelling correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronic.Canuck Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 On 5/31/2022 at 8:23 PM, bigbadcanucks said: So many throw away late round picks by Benning. 2014-Nikita Tryamkin, Gustav Forsling, Kyle Pettit, Mackenze Stewart 2015-Dmitry Zhukenov, Carl Neill, Lukas Jasek, Tate Olson 2016-Cole Candella, Jakob Stukel, Rodrigo Abols, Brett McKenzie 2017-Kristoffer Gunnarson, Petrus Palmu, Matt Brassard 2018-Toni Utunen, Artem Manukyan, Matthew Thiessen Imagine if one or two of the list of these stellar picks turned out in the Canucks favor. 2014 - Forsling (5th) is an NHLer 2015 - Gaudette (5th) borderline NHLer 2016 - no late round hits but Lockwood (3rd) 2017 - Rathbone (4th) 2018 - miss 2019 - Silovs (6th) and McDonough (7th) 2020 - Persson (7th) looks promising Pretty much one late round hit per year on average. If you're hitting on your high picks, getting 1-2 players from each draft year is pretty much league average. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Chronic.Canuck said: 2014 - Forsling (5th) is an NHLer 2015 - Gaudette (5th) borderline NHLer 2016 - no late round hits but Lockwood (3rd) 2017 - Rathbone (4th) 2018 - miss 2019 - Silovs (6th) and McDonough (7th) 2020 - Persson (7th) looks promising Pretty much one late round hit per year on average. If you're hitting on your high picks, getting 1-2 players from each draft year is pretty much league average. Stop with the facts, Rent free JB wants to live in these guys heads forever! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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