The Case of the Missing Saudi Journalist

[RUPERTKBD]

1 hour ago, CBH1926 said:

Unfortunately the only way for Saudis to change, is internally without outside assistance.

Anytime regime is changed or attempted to be changed from the outside, results are terrible.

Just look at Syria, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan etc.

...and unfortunately, with the weaponry at their disposal (and their apparent willingness to use them) an "Arab Spring" does not seem likely anytime soon in the KSA...

[CBH1926]

7 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

The French provided valuable assistance to the Rebels in their war way back in the 1770s.

Probably the last time French did anything significant on the battle field

[CBH1926]

6 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

...and unfortunately, with the weaponry at their disposal (and their apparent willingness to use them) an "Arab Spring" does not seem likely anytime soon in the KSA...

One day when oil runs out, all that weaponry will become useless junk.

Saudis do not have industrial complex to maintain it, produce it, make munitions for etc.

They are going to be sitting ducks.

[NewbieCanuckFan]

5 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

Probably the last time French did anything significant on the battle field

Even Napoleon was Corsican and thus probably more Italian than French.

[CBH1926]

Just now, NewbieCanuckFan said:

Even Napoleon was Corsican and thus probably more Italian than French.

I am envisioning army of French and Italians, I wonder which group would flee the battlefield faster.

Italians do make better cars so.......

[thedestroyerofworlds]

Jamal Khashoggi strangled as soon as he entered consulate, prosecutor confirms

Statement is first official Turkish confirmation of how Saudi journalist died

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/31/jamal-khashoggi-strangled-as-soon-as-he-entered-consulate-istanbul-prosecutor-confirms?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[Tortorella's Rant]

Predictably this story has mostly disappeared, like Khashoggi's body.

[JM_]

Just now, Tortorella's Rant said:

Predictably this story has mostly disappeared, like Khashoggi's body.

sending 5,200 troops to fight a non-existent problem can have that effect. 

[Toews]

Just now, Tortorella's Rant said:

Predictably this story has mostly disappeared, like Khashoggi's body.

"Here is some oil money, now go away"

 

-MBS

[Warhippy]

 Saudi Arabia has absolutely rejected Turkeys request to have the suspects sent to Turkey for questioning and trial.

 

Kashogi died.  Saudi Arabia is getting away with it and nobody cares.

 

Here's a pipe bomb

[Tortorella's Rant]

1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said:

sending 5,200 troops to fight a non-existent problem can have that effect. 

No other countries really care. That, or are rather helpless or too inept to do anything about it. Both are somewhat alarming.

[RUPERTKBD]

52 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

 Saudi Arabia has absolutely rejected Turkeys request to have the suspects sent to Turkey for questioning and trial.

 

Kashogi died.  Saudi Arabia is getting away with it and nobody cares.

 

Here's a pipe bomb

They just would have been scapegoats anyway. Everyone knows they were following orders and who gave the order.

 

The only appropriate "punishment" would be to sever ties with Saudi Arabia, until the royal family names a replacement for MBS.

[coastal.view]

well the saudis did lose that big international business conference it had organized

 

euros may still show some leadership

and curtail arms sales to the saudis

 

canada is already sidelined by the saudis

so there is not much more we can do as a country

 

the orange one is too busy living halloween everyday

to be bothered with the loss of a non american media type

 

he views them all as evil anyway

they are dividing america

and should be focusing more on the impending invasion of ill terrorist zombies from the south

[TheAce]

55 minutes ago, coastal.view said:

well the saudis did lose that big international business conference it had organized

 

euros may still show some leadership

and curtail arms sales to the saudis

 

canada is already sidelined by the saudis

so there is not much more we can do as a country

 

the orange one is too busy living halloween everyday

to be bothered with the loss of a non american media type

 

he views them all as evil anyway

they are dividing america

and should be focusing more on the impending invasion of ill terrorist zombies from the south

 Sure there is.... we can stop buying any oil from them and we can put a stop to the 14 billion dollar arms deal .

[Lancaster]

13 hours ago, coastal.view said:

well the saudis did lose that big international business conference it had organized

 

euros may still show some leadership

and curtail arms sales to the saudis

 

canada is already sidelined by the saudis

so there is not much more we can do as a country

 

the orange one is too busy living halloween everyday

to be bothered with the loss of a non american media type

 

he views them all as evil anyway

they are dividing america

and should be focusing more on the impending invasion of ill terrorist zombies from the south

We can always build the pipeline to the East Coast refineries instead of importing oil directly from the Saudis.  

[RUPERTKBD]

A bit lost in all of the events of the past few weeks, is the story of these two Saudi Sisters:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/31/us/new-york-hudson-river-bodies-saudi-citizens/index.html

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When their bodies were found last week on the banks of New York's Hudson River, the sisters wore similar black leggings and fur-trimmed jackets, with their feet and waists bound together by duct tape.Now, more details about Rotana Farea, 22, and Tala Farea, 16, of Fairfax, Virginia, are emerging, even as much of the case remains a mystery.

The sisters were Saudi citizens and students who were accompanying their brother in Washington, the Royal Consulate General of Saudi Arabia in New York said Tuesday.

The sisters' photos also were released publicly Wednesday by New York police, along with an appeal to the public for information about them and how their remains might have ended up along the waterfront around 68th Street and Riverside Park on Manhattan's Upper West Side.

Detectives have been in Virginia, where Tala had been reported missing in August, Chief of Detectives Dermot Shea told reporters Wednesday.

"We've made significant progress in piecing together pieces of this puzzle to find out what happened," Shea said.

Interviews with family members and others have begun to shed light on "what was going on in the two young ladies' lives," he said.

"We're looking at a two-month gap," Shea said, referring to the time since Tala was reported missing. "The detectives' work has filled in many of the pieces, but there's still some gaps that we would like to fill in and get a real clear picture of what happened in the last two months."

The consulate has been in contact with the sisters' family and appointed an attorney to follow the investigation, officials said.

The Saudi Embassy in Washington had called their mother to inform her that her daughters had applied for asylum in the United States, The New York Times reported this week.

A Saudi official told CNN they are aware of the asylum reports.

 

The fact that the sisters had applied for asylum is suspicious.

 

[Ilunga]

On 11/10/2018 at 1:39 PM, nuckin_futz said:

Though it won't happen in our lifetime's I look forward to the day when there isn't a single drop of oil in Saudi Arabia and they return to the penniless sh**hole they were before. What a vile waste of space.

People are the same the world over.

There are good people and there are bad people in every society.

Do you really want the average Saudi person to live in a "penniless Sh*thole" just because the extended family of saud and their corrupt hangers on will do anything to keep their power ?

Should the Turkish people be punished because they have placed/allowed so much power in a dictators ( Erdogan) hands.

I suggest you read T.E 

Lawrences Book, Seven Pillars of Wisdom if you really want some insight into the Arabian mindset.

The British and French were going to betray the Arabian nations after WW1, dividing up the Arabian territories between them.

Any person who follows history can discern that was when the seeds were sown for what we see today in the middle east.

 

 

[Lancaster]

2 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

A bit lost in all of the events of the past few weeks, is the story of these two Saudi Sisters:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/31/us/new-york-hudson-river-bodies-saudi-citizens/index.html

The fact that the sisters had applied for asylum is suspicious.

 

Odd that they even mentioned the possibility of suicide.  Like somehow being bounded by duct tape and then tossed into the water isn't suspicious at all... 

[RUPERTKBD]

14 minutes ago, Lancaster said:

Odd that they even mentioned the possibility of suicide.  Like somehow being bounded by duct tape and then tossed into the water isn't suspicious at all... 

I don't think there's any question they were murdered. The question is why and the KSA doesn't have a great record with people who reject them.

 

It's pretty sad that a so-called "invasion" of migrants sucks up all the oxygen, so that the murder of two young women is barely mentioned. To make it worse, what I've read on the condition of the bodies suggests that they were bound together and thrown into the river to drown.

[RUPERTKBD]

Just a quick reminder of what the Saudis are doing to the people of Yemen:

 

***Warning: The link below includes a disturbing image

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/7-year-old-girl-whose-haunting-picture-put-spotlight-on-yemen-famine-dies-nyt/ar-BBPglX8?li=AAggFp4

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A seven-year-old Yemeni girl, whose haunting image of starvation turned the world's eyes to the famine and ongoing conflict in the country, has died, according to the New York Times.

Last week, the Times published a picture of an emaciated Amal Hussain lying in a mobile clinic in northern Yemen. The little girl was being treated for acute malnutrition.

Amal became a symbol of Yemen's humanitarian crisis, where 1.8 million children are starving due to a nearly four-year-old civil war. The humanitarian crisis in Yemen is one of the worst in the world.

Doctors and nurses tried to save Amal, feeding her milk every two hours, but she was vomiting regularly and suffered from diarrhea, the Times reported.

Despite the effort to save her, Amal died on Oct. 26 at a refugee camp, three days after she was discharged from the hospital, her family told the Times.