J.I.A.H.N Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Honestly, when you look at the exposed list, and consider who they are or what their value is between now and then, I think they become your trade list, and give more argument to trading any of them...…….it is and will be even more the mid to bottom of our core over the next 2 years......are any of them worth not trading over a good trade, with valuable assets coming back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rick Blight said: Why would that be circumvention when it is a normal practice throughout the league every year? It is a legit question Rick But let's be honest, it is common practice to sign and burn that year off for probably 99% of all top end NCAA players......and our recent history has been that of signing them early....both Brock and Adam were, and now, we are going to have a 7th OA pick signed to a ATO, for what purpose......try and explain to the NHL brass, that it is not a Expansion Rule Violation...….. I do not trust the NHL and I do not think they would agree...……..not common practice, and the only obvious reason is to circumvent and that is what we are talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, janisahockeynut said: It is a legit question Rick But let's be honest, it is common practice to sign and burn that year off for probably 99% of all top end NCAA players......and our recent history has been that of signing them early....both Brock and Adam were, and now, we are going to have a 7th OA pick signed to a ATO, for what purpose......try and explain to the NHL brass, that it is not a Expansion Rule Violation...….. I do not trust the NHL and I do not think they would agree...……..not common practice, and the only obvious reason is to circumvent and that is what we are talking about I am not concerned about Quinn Hughes in particular as he will sign with the Canucks at the end of this season IF Michigan's season ends before the Canucks' season. Burning the 1st year of your entry level contract is very important from a player's perspective. If Michigan's season ends after the Canucks then it becomes a non-issue and Hughes simply signs an NHL SPC for the 2019/20 season and does not burn a year of his ELC and does not have to be protected for the Seattle expansion draft. BTW, even 1st round picks sign ATO's...........Charlie McAvoy is a good example. You are worried about nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therodigy Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Question: Is Tryamkin exposed for the draft, even if he's on our reserve list? Not sure if this has been clarified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therodigy Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) I'll bite: Horvat Pettersson Boeser Virtanen Gaudette Lind/Baerstchi* Dahlen Hutton** Juolevi Hughes/Stecher*** Demko Exposed: Roussel Beagle Sutter ** Goldobin ** Palmu ** Gadjovich ** Jasek ** MacEwan** Tryamkin **** UFA Defenseman ***** UFA goalie ***** * If Baerstchi is unsigned during the draft, Lind is protected ** Presumes that the roster player is signed through to the 2021-2022 season *** If Hughes does not sign his ELC during the spring of 2019, Then Stecher is protected, provided he is signed through the 2021-2022 season **** Not sure if eligible for selection if he is still on our reserve list during the draft ***** signed to be compliant with draft rules Edited December 12, 2018 by therodigy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 43 minutes ago, therodigy said: I'll bite: Horvat Pettersson Boeser Virtanen Gaudette Lind/Baerstchi* Dahlen Hutton** Juolevi Hughes/Stecher*** Demko Exposed: Roussel Beagle Sutter ** Goldobin ** Palmu ** Gadjovich ** Jasek ** MacEwan** Tryamkin **** UFA Defenseman ***** UFA goalie ***** * If Baerstchi is unsigned during the draft, Lind is protected ** Presumes that the roster player is signed through to the 2021-2022 season *** If Hughes does not sign his ELC during the spring of 2019, Then Stecher is protected, provided he is signed through the 2021-2022 season **** Not sure if eligible for selection if he is still on our reserve list during the draft ***** signed to be compliant with draft rules I think Goldy will be on that list by the time it rolls around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therodigy Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 57 minutes ago, spur1 said: I think Goldy will be on that list by the time it rolls around. A few things would have to go his way (Dahlen and Lind's progression, as well as Baerstchi's contract status) but I think if Goldy solidifies himself into our top 6 over the next season or two (consistent 50-60 pt seasons) you've got a strong argument for protecting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Bo EP40 BB6 JV18 GAudette Jack Hughes Panarin Quinn Hughes Gudbranson Hutton Demko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/4/2018 at 2:58 PM, Canuck Surfer said: Do we have to protect NTC's? Or just NMC's. That's my understanding. NMC's meaning no buy outs, no demotions. Full control that you can stay on our main squad. Eriiksson I believe has already had his NMC fall off. This year and next he has a full NTC I also believe? Which means no trade unless he agrees. Then it drops to a 15 team no trade list for the last two years of his pact. And coinciding with expansion. What if he actually starts playing? Hmmm hey? Lmao! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/4/2018 at 11:58 PM, Canuck Surfer said: Do we have to protect NTC's? Or just NMC's. That's my understanding. NMC's meaning no buy outs, no demotions. Full control that you can stay on our main squad. Eriiksson I believe has already had his NMC fall off. This year and next he has a full NTC I also believe? Which means no trade unless he agrees. Then it drops to a 15 team no trade list for the last two years of his pact. And coinciding with expansion. Players on NMCs can be bought out. Vermette had a NMC but got bought out by Arizona after a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Canucks Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I have no problems with burning a year off Hughes' ELC. It's Rathbone and especially Lockwood that I worry about burning a year on. I want those two guys to sign after our season is done so Seattle has two less prospects to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the harry Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 When I lock back at last years SCF Vegas Team, the golden misfits, then would say that Granlund is the guy that will be selected by Seattle. Versatile, defensive responsilble, decent numbers, maybe a little bit underrated, a handsome team first guy, not too young and not too old. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 The expansion is several years away, so the roster may look quite different then. I can see guys like Sutter, Tanev, Baer, Guddy, etc traded by then. Also, there are quite a few rfas to be resigned during those years and some of them will have moved on as well. Eriksson will be a MNTC by then, which means he can be traded; so he can be left unprotected. I can see the Canucks making a deal with Seattle to take Loui at 50% retained (he will have 2 years left on his contract and they will pay 2m each per year). Canucks also offer up a draft pick or a roster player in the package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Face Doom Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Why would anyone protect Stetcher? Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Got a question. If Tryamkin finished off his KHL contract in two years and signed back during the Seattle expansion, would he have to be protected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, smokes said: Got a question. If Tryamkin finished off his KHL contract in two years and signed back during the Seattle expansion, would he have to be protected? Dallas had to protect Nichushkin to retain his rights although he was playing in the KHL and did not have a contract with the Stars at the time of expansion. They had qualified him before he left. Not sure how they count the years of pro-experience though for Tryamkin. He does have 2 years in the NHL but would his time in the KHL continue to count. Edited December 14, 2018 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 5 hours ago, higgyfan said: I can see the Canucks making a deal with Seattle to take Loui at 50% retained (he will have 2 years left on his contract and they will pay 2m each per year). Canucks also offer up a draft pick or a roster player in the package. Loui would have to leave Seattle off of his 15 team NTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 55 minutes ago, coryberg said: Loui would have to leave Seattle off of his 15 team NTC. The type of NTC doesn't matter. As long as it's not a NMC players can be left exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 3 hours ago, mll said: The type of NTC doesn't matter. As long as it's not a NMC players can be left exposed. Thanks tips He said giving them loui at 50% retained. That would have to be done by trade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 As of today? Bo Horvat Brock Boeser Elias Pettersson Micheal Ferland J.T. Miller Adam Gaudette Goldy or Virtanen DEFENCE Tyler Myers nmc Olli Juolevi Troy Stecher Goalie Thatcher Demko (Dipietro exempt) Some will need new contracts above to be protected and maybe some could be traded for picks before roster freeze? Exposed (or not resinged) could be Baer, Beagel, Roussel, Eriksson (?), Virtanen/Goldy. Sutter, Leivo, Pearson, Motte, Tree I am surprised with all the success that Vegas has had , that they are exempt, (at least not modified some) Interesting that 2017 Canucks protection was Eriksson Hank and Daniel Sedin Sven Granlund Bo Sutter Edler Guddy Tanev Markstrom Did I get this right? No pre-draft trades All no-movement clauses are honored (Myers,Ferland) Players who will become restricted free agents in 2020 or 2021 remain with current teams (Jake, Goldy, Motte,Stecher,Mackewen) ? Players who will become unrestricted free agents in 2020 or 2021 either remain with current teams or are left off lists entirely (Tanev,Markstrom)? Players whose NMCs had limited no trade clauses had to still be protected, and any players with NMCs were able to waive the clause and become eligible for the expansion draft.(Ericksson, Sutter,Roussel,Beagle)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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