hammertime Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) To Vancouver James Niel -50% 2.87m aav + our 2015 2nd round pick back Rasmus Andersson To the Flames Thatchy D We save them the millions in cap they need to sign Tkachuk and some 18 year old. They get their goalie of the future to split starts with Smith next year. We no longer have a goalie conundrum during the ED and we get a hell of a young RHD. Neil is also a hell of a competitor I think it was just a bad fit there but going from an average 20-30 goals to 7 is a hell of a dip. I think this addresses 2 needs a scoring rw to play with Bo and a young top 4 rhd. It sucks loosing Thatcher but he can be replaced might be able to get Knight or Isaiah Saville in this draft and Mikey Dipietro is crushing it in the minors. Markstrom has proven that he can hold the fort. This also prevents JB from doing anything really silly in FA. Edited April 25, 2019 by hammertime 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) Id rather not risk giving up Our future goalie to solve Calgarys problems Let the year play out and make a decision come the Expansion Draft Edited April 25, 2019 by naslund.is.king 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterBean Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I’d rather have Demko over Marky going forward. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Then Marky blows out his knee and we have to wait another 4 years 'till DiPietro is ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Then Marky blows out his knee and we have to wait another 4 years 'till DiPietro is ready. https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2020/caphit/all/goalies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Hard no. That's an awful deal for us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Send them Hutton instead. I really like that Andersen, he is built like a tank. He was in Penticton for a couple Young Stars tourneys. Hard as nails to play against even in exhibition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaramel MacKhiato Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Why do people keep offering Demko? Markstrom had the same stats as he did the previous year. His GAA was actually worse. He's also 29 years old. Keep Demko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 hours ago, hammertime said: To Vancouver James Niel -50% + our 2015 2nd round pick back Rasmus Andersson To the Flames Thatchy D We save them the millions in cap they need to sign Tkachuk and some 18 year old. They get their goalie of the future to split starts with Smith next year. We no longer have a goalie conundrum during the ED and we get a hell of a young RHD. Neil is also a hell of a competitor I think it was just a bad fit there but going from an average 20-30 goals to 7 is a hell of a dip. I think this addresses 2 needs a scoring rw to play with Bo and a young top 4 rhd. It sucks loosing Thatcher but he can be replaced might be able to get Knight or Isaiah Saville in this draft and Mikey Dipietro is crushing it in the minors. Markstrom has proven that he can hold the fort. This also prevents JB from doing anything really silly in FA. Yes, trading a potential franchise goalie to a division rival for a player that is likely "done" and unable to keep up to the pace of the game any longer is a great strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, hammertime said: https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2020/caphit/all/goalies Only 17 of the 50 listed have a save percentage over .900, and not all of them have played more than a sample size. Take into account the fact that some of them will likely resign with their old teams, some of them aren't in the age bracket we need, and the fact that other teams will be looking for goalies as well, and the list of available goalies shrinks even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Only 17 of the 50 listed have a save percentage over .900, and not all of them have played more than a sample size. Take into account the fact that some of them will likely resign with their old teams, some of them aren't in the age bracket we need, and the fact that other teams will be looking for goalies as well, and the list of available goalies shrinks even more. I see it as an opportunity to move a player we likely loose for nothing and return a young top 4 rhd and a 20 goal scorer with a side of nasty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 We just signed the guy today too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, hammertime said: I see it as an opportunity to move a player we likely loose for nothing and return a young top 4 rhd and a 20 goal scorer with a side of nasty. I'd rather wait out the season to get a better idea of what we have before making a move. Sure, it lowers the value as the expansion draft approaches, but for all we know Markstrom could fall apart and Demko could steal the starting job from him before the season ends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Soon we will be dealing Pettersson, I've seen the laughable Boeser postings... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 There is no possible way you could have thought this would be a good deal for us. It’s not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Pears said: There is no possible way you could have thought this would be a good deal for us. It’s not. Maybe I'm just not sold that Thatcher is the future. I think he will be a average starter. At one point Markstrom was considered the best goalie prospect in the league too. Hes had a bumpy ride. I like Thatcher but I'm not sure hes as good as everyone on CDC seems to think. I have seen sweetheart goalies come and go. Lack and Schneiderman look how they turned out. I'm ready to stick with Markstron as our guy. I also really like Andersson so maybe I'm out to lunch. And missing something Thatcher seems average to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, hammertime said: Maybe I'm just not sold that Thatcher is the future. I think he will be a average starter. At one point Markstrom was considered the best goalie prospect in the league too. Hes had a bumpy ride. I like Thatcher but I'm not sure hes as good as everyone on CDC seems to think. I have seen sweetheart goalies come and go. Lack and Schneiderman look how they turned out. I'm ready to stick with Markstron as our guy. I also really like Andersson so maybe I'm out to lunch. And missing something Thatcher seems average to me The kid stopped 104 of his last 110 shots against St. Louis, San Jose, and LA and went 2-0-1, finishing with a .913 save percentage on the season. Pessimistic viewpoint to say the least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Canucklehead73 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Not sure what it is with all the proposals to take on bad contracts to get a pick and a prospect... Those types of trades are for teams trying to reach the cap floor as they ice a $&!#ty team hoping to somehow find core players. We have the core players from the looks of things.... We need to build around our core and get RID of the bad contracts. These trades are counter productive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Canucklehead73 said: Not sure what it is with all the proposals to take on bad contracts to get a pick and a prospect... Those types of trades are for teams trying to reach the cap floor as they ice a $&!#ty team hoping to somehow find core players. We have the core players from the looks of things.... We need to build around our core and get RID of the bad contracts. These trades are counter productive... we aren't taking a bad contract the Flames eat 50% salary. Neil at 2.87m I think would be good value. Top 4 RHD don't grow on trees either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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