Odjick29willkillyou Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Given their need for someone in net given Hutton's inconsistency last season, would you trade Marky and a 3rd for something like Risto and Hutton? It would allow Demko more games in net (around 30ish) and provide both teams a position of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Screw said: 10th pick holds more value for the Canucks at their stage of development. Does it? 10th Overall NHL Draft Picks 2016 Jost 2015 Rantanen 2014 ritchie 2013 nichushkin 2012 koekkoek 2011 brodin 2010 mcilrath 2009 paajarvi 2008 hodgson 2007 ellerby 2006 frolik Odds are we end up with a paajarvi level player. Risto>paajarvi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckGAME Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Odjick29willkillyou said: Given their need for someone in net given Hutton's inconsistency last season, would you trade Marky and a 3rd for something like Risto and Hutton? It would allow Demko more games in net (around 30ish) and provide both teams a position of need. No but I'd trade Demko. Markstrom looked vezina caliber last season. Demko still has a lot of question marks and his injury history is worrisome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, aGENT said: I doubt we'd target Bob (unless his contract demands end up being far more reasonable than reported). But I'd happily sign Lehner, Mrazek, Varlamov , Elliott etc to tandem with Demko. Don't sign Miller, run with Lack, trade Demko, trade Marky, sign mediocre-to-garbage journeymen... man, you are still SO determined to crater our goaltending, and tank the team in the process(!). Bottom-dwelling is over for this team, we have to start moving back up into being competitive. With our present D we need the best goaltending we can get to keep afloat. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Screw said: Buffalo can't score. I assume they would want to address their wingers. With the 7th OA, the Sabres would like to select... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screw Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: Does it? 10th Overall NHL Draft Picks 2016 Jost 2015 Rantanen 2014 ritchie 2013 nichushkin 2012 koekkoek 2011 brodin 2010 mcilrath 2009 paajarvi 2008 hodgson 2007 ellerby 2006 frolik Odds are we end up with a paajarvi level player. Risto>paajarvi Besides those there were good players selected after the 10th. So value is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screw Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, aGENT said: With the 7th OA, the Sabres would like to select... I guess Boldy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Hutton Wink said: Don't sign Miller, run with Lack, trade Demko, trade Marky, sign mediocre-to-garbage journeymen... man, you are still SO determined to crater our goaltending, and tank the team in the process(!). Bottom-dwelling is over for this team, we have to start moving back up into being competitive. With our present D we need the best goaltending we can get to keep afloat. Due to lose a goalie in the ED. Marky needs extending next year. We can replace a vet goalie via UFA and allow Demko more starts while not particularly taking much (any) dip in goal tending with said UFA. Need to give up assets to get assets. Improved D means easier work for the goalies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 59 minutes ago, Odjick29willkillyou said: He is over it now. My buddy in Buffalo knows him well due to BOGO partnering with his disabled military hockey team and according to him, he is clean as a whistle. Awesome!!! That's great news. He would probably be someone Benning will circle back to, should he strike out with some other irons in the fire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: Does it? 10th Overall NHL Draft Picks 2016 Jost 2015 Rantanen 2014 ritchie 2013 nichushkin 2012 koekkoek 2011 brodin 2010 mcilrath 2009 paajarvi 2008 hodgson 2007 ellerby 2006 frolik Odds are we end up with a paajarvi level player. Risto>paajarvi The problem with this line of thinking is if you did the exact same thing with pick 14, for example, you get players like Grabner, Shattenkirk, Kulikov, Baertschi, McAvoy etc. 10's just been unlucky. I mean you can even look at 2003 and see Andrei Kostitsyn as opposed to most of the other 1st round picks of that entire draft class. but considering how successful later picks have been, I don't think a single pick being "unlucky" is what GM's are going to look at when appraising value. Edited June 18, 2019 by The Lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickly Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Noseforthenet said: Awesome!!! That's great news. He would probably be someone Benning will circle back to, should he strike out with some other irons in the fire. Absolutely not. Bogosion hasn’t played more than 65 games in a season in 9 years. Not since 2010 has he played a full season. Guys more of a bandaid than Chris Tanev and that’s saying a lot. The Canucks need guys in the top 4 that can stay healthy and not force #6 and AHL caliber D to play roles way above their heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 100% Benning is targeting Bogosian, he had to let go of Gudbranson due to fan pressure and is looking to replace his truculence while addressing our RD situation. Edited June 18, 2019 by Mathew Barzal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Goalies dont generally hold alot of value & Buffalo has one of the best goalie prospects there is. Dont want Bogo, often injured we dont need that. Risto is more interesting but hes his defensive game is lacking. Id be alright with Risto but definitely not at the cost of our 10th pick, and I dont see what other assets we have unless they like Virtanen. Lots of interest from the Canucks but we dont have assets. We lack depth on our roster & in our system, and we dont have extra draft picks. Better start preparing for Zaitsev.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, aGENT said: We can replace a vet goalie via UFA Need to open those sleepy clouded eyes and see what's happened the past 5 years here. Get yerself some Redbull wings and fly up high enough to see the big picture... not to mention the fact Benning will NOT ever crater the goaltending the way you want. Right from signing Miller and drafting Demko he's shown he recognizes the value and need to be solid/stable at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: Goalies dont generally hold alot of value & Buffalo has one of the best goalie prospects there is. Dont want Bogo, often injured we dont need that. Risto is more interesting but hes his defensive game is lacking. Id be alright with Risto but definitely not at the cost of our 10th pick, and I dont see what other assets we have unless they like Virtanen. Lots of interest from the Canucks but we dont have assets. We lack depth on our roster & in our system, and we dont have extra draft picks. Better start preparing for Zaitsev.... We'd almost certainly have to add to Marky FWIW. Our 2nd? Perhaps a prospect? Maybe Tanev to actually fit the match up role they've been square pegging Risto in to etc Do they expect UPL to be there starter as soon as this year? Doubt it. I'm thinking they want to actually start competing sooner than later and would want a solid netminder to do so and eventually tandem with/backup UPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeserker Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Risto yes please. Does one of Virtanen/Goldobin/Baertschi + Tanev get it done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boziffous Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pickly said: Absolutely not. Bogosion hasn’t played more than 65 games in a season in 9 years. Not since 2010 has he played a full season. Guys more of a bandaid than Chris Tanev and that’s saying a lot. The Canucks need guys in the top 4 that can stay healthy and not force #6 and AHL caliber D to play roles way above their heads. What Pickly said. Fans here are down on Chris Tanev because of how often he is injured. Bogosian has missed more games than Tanev since the start of 2012/13 season which is the year Tanev became a regular. Instead of Bogosian, why not just bring back Luke Schenn at a fraction of Bogosian's salary? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Need to open those sleepy clouded eyes and see what's happened the past 5 years here. Get yerself some Redbull wings and fly up high enough to see the big picture... not to mention the fact Benning will NOT ever crater the goaltending the way you want. Right from signing Miller and drafting Demko he's shown he recognizes the value and need to be solid/stable at that position. Miller's one of those scary UFA's this summer if you want him back so bad I fail to see how Demko + Lehner/Mrazek etc + 6'4 Ristolainen in front of them is 'cratering the goaltending'. Yay hyperbole! Plus we have the goalie coach don't forget. Edited June 18, 2019 by aGENT 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mathew Barzal said: 100% Benning is targeting Bogosian, he had to let go of Gudbranson due to fan pressure and is looking to replace his truculence while addressing our RD situation. I doubt Benning looks through Twitter and CDC to see who he should move. Anyone with two eyes could see Gudbranson was not playing well here. From what I hear Pens fans were largely unhappy with Gudbranson too. Gudbranson had one real moment of truculence, other than that he was an often injured, okay defensive player, that brought no offence and barely mixed it up with anybody. He was a worse Tryamkin all things considered. Which is saying something cause Tryamkin didn't exactly light the world on fire in his time here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 He's got a bomb on the point! i dont care if he cant defend we need that on our PP lol turned Burns into a pylon very physical for a Euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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