JM_ Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, kylecanuck said: So what do you think it would cost to get him? And would it be worth the price if we aren't going to be able to resign him? Could Rafferty, or joulevi maybe have the same impact as Barrie? well thats it.... whats it worth? depends how desperate Dubas is to keep his job Looking back on his pairings, Ian Cole - Barrie was a good pairing. Cole made up for a lot of Barries problems, which I think Edler could do as well. I don't think Juolevi is anything like Barrie, and Rafferty by the reports needs to work on his defensive game too, at least this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, WHL rocks said: Barrie will be very expensive, especially considering it being a seller's market and prices are already high. Also not many Dmen left on market. Barrie for Tanev could be something but I'd rather keep Tanev. He and Quinn are very good together. if it is then hard pass. If its Stecher + F prospect not named Hoglander or Podkolzin... I don't know how you pass on that. Dubas isn't going to want to trade Barrie in the east either, I think of most places he'd like to send him our way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylecanuck Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: well thats it.... whats it worth? depends how desperate Dubas is to keep his job Looking back on his pairings, Ian Cole - Barrie was a good pairing. Cole made up for a lot of Barries problems, which I think Edler could do as well. I don't think Juolevi is anything like Barrie, and Rafferty by the reports needs to work on his defensive game too, at least this year. Dubas is a dope... When was the last time there was a Canucks and Toronto trade? I don't know, edler doesn't have the best history as a solid defensive defenseman... He is having a good year, but I wouldn't want to be relying on him to cover up for his partners mistakes.. him and Myers seem to be playing well of each other and would like to keep it that way I hear ya on neither of joulevi or Rafferty being quite ready, but I think they're both really close. Joulevis game will transfer over nicely to the NHL, I see him as a upgraded Tanev.. well I am wishing he is a upgraded Tanev hahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylecanuck Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: if it is then hard pass. If its Stecher + F prospect not named Hoglander or Podkolzin... I don't know how you pass on that. Dubas isn't going to want to trade Barrie in the east either, I think of most places he'd like to send him our way. Maybe a stetcher plus Lockwood would be ok to.let go 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, kylecanuck said: Dubas is a dope... When was the last time there was a Canucks and Toronto trade? Levio for spare AHL parts. 1 minute ago, kylecanuck said: Maybe a stetcher plus Lockwood would be ok to.let go Thats what I was thinking. Maybe Lind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylecanuck Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: Levio for spare AHL parts. Thats what I was thinking. Maybe Lind. Hell no to Lind, he is one of our best prospects and could fetch more then Barrie on his own... And that's right, lievo has been good for us too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Toews said: We have to wait till he is ready to come over to NA and even still I would prefer to ease his transition back to the NHL on his strong side. That will be up to his wifey if she can handle the Vancouver lifestyle and climate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, N7Nucks said: I loved him the second he rag dolled Myers. He'd definitely be a nice add. But I would not want Pod, Hog and maybe Woo being involved in the deal. Ragdolled? He grabbed a pre-occupied Myers, and punched him before they could square up. It was a cheap shot to say the least. Edited February 21, 2020 by PhillipBlunt Correction of content 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 13 hours ago, King Heffy said: Manson is solid defensively while Risto is absolute garbage in his own zone. I'd much prefer Manson, and honestly wouldn't take Risto for free. 12 hours ago, King Heffy said: Hell, I'd be pissed if we took Barrie for free. He simply doesn't belong in the NHL with the way he plays in his own end. Leafs will have to add picks to get rid of that pylon. Lol. Spouting this kind of nonsense renders any take that you might have invalid. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 For playoff depth why not bring back Alex Biega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Ragdolled? He sucker punched Myers. It was a cheap shot to say the least. Not really, Myers seen him coming. And Myers was chuckin' knucks at Silverberg, I think it was him at least. So yeah. I'd say Myers got his ass handed to him, and rightfully so. If some 6'7 guy started throwing punches at Petey I am sure you'd be all over defending Roussel ragdolling some other guy and I doubt anyone would call it a "cheap shot". Myers got wrecked, and it's okay to take an L. I dig what he was going for. Lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: Not really, Myers seen him coming. And Myers was chuckin' knucks at Silverberg, I think it was him at least. So yeah. I'd say Myers got his ass handed to him, and rightfully so. If some 6'7 guy started throwing punches at Petey I am sure you'd be all over defending Roussel ragdolling some other guy and I doubt anyone would call it a "cheap shot". Myers got wrecked, and it's okay to take an L. I dig what he was going for. Lol. It was a sucker move. The punch glances off the left side of the helmet. The momentum of the ambush is the reason Myers goes down. Saying he got 'wrecked' is a massive overstatement. Stop the vid around the 0.58 mark. Edited February 21, 2020 by bishopshodan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: Not really, Myers seen him coming. And Myers was chuckin' knucks at Silverberg, I think it was him at least. So yeah. I'd say Myers got his ass handed to him, and rightfully so. If some 6'7 guy started throwing punches at Petey I am sure you'd be all over defending Roussel ragdolling some other guy and I doubt anyone would call it a "cheap shot". Myers got wrecked, and it's okay to take an L. I dig what he was going for. Lol. If I'm occupied with one player and another comes charging in and flies at me, it may not be a "sucker punch" but don't pretend Manson handily dropped him in a fair fight. That was 99% momentum from charging at and grabbing a player whose hands were busy. Edited February 21, 2020 by Bitter Melon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: Not really, Myers seen him coming. And Myers was chuckin' knucks at Silverberg, I think it was him at least. So yeah. I'd say Myers got his ass handed to him, and rightfully so. If some 6'7 guy started throwing punches at Petey I am sure you'd be all over defending Roussel ragdolling some other guy and I doubt anyone would call it a "cheap shot". Myers got wrecked, and it's okay to take an L. I dig what he was going for. Lol. From what I saw, Myers was still partially engaged with Silverberg at the time, and didn't have both hands free, so Manson did take advantage of that to grab him as he was off balance. Now, if they squared off like most fighters do, I'd agree with you but after watching the "fight" it was Manson taking advantage of a pre-occupied Myers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, Bitter Melon said: If I'm occupied with another player and another comes charging in and flies at me, it may not be a "sucker punch" but don't pretend Manson handily dropped him in a fair fight. That was 99% momentum from charging at and grabbing a player whose hands were busy. Great point. I'll state that it wasn't a sucker punch, but a punch by a sucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 19 hours ago, Canucks Curse said: I do not know what Barrie would provide that Hughes does not Hughes >>>> Barrie If he can do what Hughes does that's a whole other pairing with that ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: Great point. I'll state that it wasn't a sucker punch, but a punch by a sucker. Oh lets just call it a sucker move then. Myers was occupied. Manson should have got in the middle and started to fight Myers like a man. Also, why do people always expect tall dudes to be tough? I feel bad for tall dudes having to burden that. There is so much more to fighting than just length. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brock Botanen said: If he can do what Hughes does that's a whole other pairing with that ability How effective has Barrie been with the Leafs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Great point. I'll state that it wasn't a sucker punch, but a punch by a sucker. The problem with the term 'sucker punch' is it seems to have a different definition to everyone. Some people think a sucker punch is only from someone who doesn't even know you're there, others will say any strike you aren't completely squared up and bracing for is a sucker punch. Others have other definitions. Its a nebulous term. Either way, I don't think its a sucker punch, and I don't take much umbrage with what Manson did, but acting like he owned Myers because he leapt at him like Superman while he wasn't ready to defend for it is just silly. Edited February 21, 2020 by Bitter Melon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: How effective has Barrie been with the Leafs? How effective was Barrie with the Avs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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