stawns Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, DeNiro said: Eriksson has earned a spot over Sutter if they decide they wanna have a vet there. Say what you will about his play and his contract but he has been quite professional through all this. after watching the game last night I agree. I love Suts and when he's healthy he's an important piece of the lineup, but he did not look healthy last night. Ferland Gaud Virt Eriksson Beagle Motte Mac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, stawns said: after watching the game last night I agree. I love Suts and when he's healthy he's an important piece of the lineup, but he did not look healthy last night. Ferland Gaud Virt Eriksson Beagle Motte Mac There's Roussel too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, mll said: There's Roussel too. shoot, he was so invisible last night I forgot........he was better than Motte though Eriksson Beagle Roussel mac, motte rotate those 4 wingers through, depending on who earns it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, hlinkas wrister said: I don't think they will carry a 13th forward, expanded roster was only for the practice game. I must be out to lunch, but I thought they could dress an extra skater for playoffs. Forward or D.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post the grinder Posted July 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, stawns said: If Green uses Mac ahead of Jake, one of two things needs to happen. Either they need to move Jake so he can be an impact player on another team or Green needs to go because he's clearly never going to give jake a fair shot. Mac isn't in the same universe as Jake is, that was pretty clear last night and keeping Virtanen out of the lineup, at this point, clearly would not be a hockey decision, but a personal one. umm Travis green has done nothing but been fair with Jake , he has spent more time with Jake than any other player on the roster , Green worked with Jake for 2 years in Utica and now in the nhl , I wish jake would just figure it out but in 5 years of being a Pro , he still doesn't get it and that isn't on Green that is on Jake. Do you see Gaudette having problems like Jake ? no so I guess it isn't the coach then unless you wanna rehash loui's comments last summer 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, the grinder said: umm Travis green has done nothing but been fair with Jake , he has spent more time with Jake than any other player on the roster , Green worked with Jake for 2 years in Utica and now in the nhl , I wish jake would just figure it out but in 5 years of being a Pro , he still doesn't get it and that isn't on Green that is on Jake. Do you see Gaudette having problems like Jake ? no so I guess it isn't the coach then unless you wanna rehash loui's comments last summer what hasn't he figured out? He's progressed every single year, he gets some of the lowest mins of any regular forward, yet puts up some of the better numbers in multiple categories. I'd argue Jake is one of the best value for the bang players in the lineup. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayinblack Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, kilgore said: The most expensive bottom 6 in the league press box need to contribute way more. This "support" group needs to support our young stars way better against Minny. Landing a few gems at the draft in the last few years (and then rewarding your amateur scouting director responsible by letting him go because you refuse to give him the power to hire and fire his own people) is all great n all, but the other side of the coin is how you fill up the rest of the roster. A few talented kids on the top lines, even with a hot goalie, does not a team make. Where was all the new energy from being rested from these overpriced vets? I thought Pearson had numerous gaffes and looked unconditioned. Sutter was ineffective and took a real dumb penalty, Beagle was invisible. Rousell got a goal, but for the most part also looked out of shape and behind the play. The longer the game went, the more they were hemmed in their own end. I hope it was more a case of saving it for the real games, but they better show more fight in the next series or we are done in a few games FTFY (hopefully ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I am feeling the effects of a few too many drinks last night though. Was pretty wobbly after the game and slept like $&!#... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayinblack Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Bang Bang Boogie said: If it was up to me, I'd put in Jake for the reasons you listed. We already have good PKers in Beagle, Horvat, Miller, Pearson and Motte. We need speed and physicality throughout the lineup to match Minny. That's why i'd like to see Jake in over LE and Sutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlinkas wrister Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, luckylager said: I must be out to lunch, but I thought they could dress an extra skater for playoffs. Forward or D.. Still only 20 players can dress per game as far as I know. They were allowed 2 extra skaters for last night only, which were Olli and big Mac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post luckylager Posted July 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, hlinkas wrister said: Still only 20 players can dress per game as far as I know. They were allowed 2 extra skaters for last night only, which were Olli and big Mac Feels right. I got pretty loaded last night. My brain is underperforming and my liver is working OT. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post the grinder Posted July 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, stawns said: what hasn't he figured out? He's progressed every single year, he gets some of the lowest mins of any regular forward, yet puts up some of the better numbers in multiple categories. I'd argue Jake is one of the best value for the bang players in the lineup. Jake needs to learn to stop taking shifts off , he needs to , be more of a pro than a bro , I agree with you jake has all the tools but his toolbox needs some work, 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austy Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 hours ago, WHL rocks said: I watched the game again. It was on repeat on sportsnet again, just ended.. OJ needs a full training camp and then brought along slowly.. See how he does as 7D with favourable matchups next season and go from there He can't handle the speed of the game. Couple bad giveaways and doesn't feel comfortable enough to make a play with the puck.. just tries to clear it. Made one good outlet pass in the 1st period. On 1 shift he had 2 giveaways .. Jets came very close to scoring. Needs to get used to the pace of the NHL game. Not there yet. The was 1 shift in I think the 3rd where he had what looked like a giveaway but in then pearson appeared to have no stick? I wonder if pearson broke his stick on that one? I thought he looked ok. Didn't seem too keen to skate the puck, but looked prettty strong on the boards and he blocked that 2 on 1 pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tre Mac Posted July 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, stawns said: what hasn't he figured out? He's progressed every single year, he gets some of the lowest mins of any regular forward, yet puts up some of the better numbers in multiple categories. I'd argue Jake is one of the best value for the bang players in the lineup. Green is not going to risk his employment to prove a point to Jake. It's 100% on the player. If he can't learn from the Sedins then I doubt he ever will. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, the grinder said: Jake needs to learn to stop taking shifts off , he needs to , be more of a pro than a bro , I agree with you jake has all the tools but his toolbox needs some work, 5th in goals 9th in assists 7th in points 4th in hits 4th in takeaways 8th in giveaways, but amongst the lowest of regular forwards and one of the few with more TA than GA 1st in game winning goals 4th in powerplay goals, but 15th for pp mins/game with under a minute of pp time per game 17th in average toi per 60 mins The numbers simply do not back up those kinds of claims against him. Name a player who doesn't take shifts off? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Tre Mac said: Green is not going to risk his employment to prove a point to Jake. It's 100% on the player. If he can't learn from the Sedins then I doubt he ever will. again, the numbers simply do not reinforce that criticism. To leave a player with those stats out of a playoff lineup is not a hockey decision Edited July 30, 2020 by stawns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, stawns said: again, the numbers simply do not reinforce that criticism. To leave a player with those stats out of a playoff lineup is not a hockey decision 18goals and a minus 4 doesn't guarantee you a spot if you're not willing to show up in shape, simple as that. It is a hockey decision and it's 100% on the player. Petey, Gaudette, and Hughes don't have this problem and two of those players get primo minutes - so the numbers do support the criticism, it's just some the JV fans don't want to believe it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlinkas wrister Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, debluvscanucks said: I understand it to be more of a battle between Ferland and Jake... They play different wings though. Roussel played right wing last night to accommodate Ferland I believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 43 minutes ago, stawns said: after watching the game last night I agree. I love Suts and when he's healthy he's an important piece of the lineup, but he did not look healthy last night. Ferland Gaud Virt Eriksson Beagle Motte Mac I dont think they're going to break up that 3rd line of ... Roussel Gaud Ferland That line has everything a 3rd line needs. Sandpaper attitude and some offense.. looked good last night.. When Virt makes it into lineup it'll be on the 4th line to start and see how it goes from there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Topcheeze86 said: Sutter again looks out of shape to me his back check is laughable he looks gassed every shift love to see an energy guy in his spot I don't think its that, its the surgeries and injuries imo. If his cardio wasn't there, he'd still be a very good face off guy but they aren't using him for that much.... somethings not right with him. Edited July 30, 2020 by Jimmy McGill 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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