Coronavirus outbreak

[bishopshodan]

1 minute ago, The Arrogant Worms said:

Howard Stern Attacks Joe Rogan And The Internet Goes Nuts

 

 

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/cltr/howard-stern-attacks-joe-rogan.html

I don't like Howard.

Creepy AF.

 

I bet the internet went nuts.

Attacking Joe these days is like criticising Jordan Peterson....get ready for push back.

[WHL rocks]

5 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said:

Howard Stern Attacks Joe Rogan And The Internet Goes Nuts

 

 

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/cltr/howard-stern-attacks-joe-rogan.html

This was months ago wasn't it? When Rogan got Covid and recovered in 3 days.. 

[Sapper]

2 minutes ago, Russ said:

Ontario brought that up the other day. I can't remember which hospital it was but they wanted peopled admitted via covid and those who caught covid while there in 2 seperate catergories.  I guess one of the big issues was you say "oh theres 5 more in ICU" but 2 could have been car crash victims who just happened to get covid while there.  They weren't admitted and hooked up to a ventillator because covid wasn't letting them breathe, they were there for various other reasons.

I hope.they break.it even further. For.those in hospital.that.comtracted it while in the hospital - would they be admitted for covid if not already an in patient

 Someone who is in because of fractures fir example who is covid positive but if it was only covid they wouldn't be in the hospital ( should not count as hospitalization because of covid numbers )

But anyone who is positive that their reaction is such that they would be an inpatient for covid still count in overall numbers. It is irrelevant where they caught it - if their covid reaction would on its own require hospitalizations then it should be counted 

 

 

[-DLC-]

Over the past 24 hours, B.C. is reporting 2,542 new cases of COVID-19, for a total of 266,710 cases in the province.

There are 27,106 active cases of COVID-19 in the province, and 236,309 people who tested positive have recovered. Of the active cases, 298 individuals are in hospital and 86 are in intensive care. The remaining people are recovering at home in self-isolation.

The new/active cases include:

• 1,458 new cases in Fraser Health
  • Total active cases: 12,729
• 329 new cases in Vancouver Coastal Health
  • Total active cases: 8,274
• 270 new cases in Interior Health
  • Total active cases: 2,250
• 125 new cases in Northern Health
  • Total active cases: 737
• 360 new cases in Island Health
  • Total active cases: 3,113
• no new cases of people who reside outside of Canada
  • Total active cases: three

Since Dec. 31, 2021, four new deaths have been reported, for an overall total of 2,427.

[-DLC-]

From Dec. 23-29, 2021, people not fully vaccinated accounted for 16% of cases, and from Dec. 16-29, they accounted for 55% of hospitalizations.

Past week cases (Dec. 23-29) - Total 17,762

• Not vaccinated: 2,532 (14.3%)
• Partially vaccinated: 306 (1.7%)
• Fully vaccinated: 14,924 (84%)

Past two weeks cases hospitalized (Dec. 16-29) - Total 180

• Not vaccinated: 96 (53.3%)
• Partially vaccinated: three (1.7%)
• Fully vaccinated: 81 (45%)

Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Dec. 23-29)

• Not vaccinated: 403.9
• Partially vaccinated: 102.4
• Fully vaccinated: 325.7

Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Dec. 16-29)

• Not vaccinated: 22.3
• Partially vaccinated: 2.2
• Fully vaccinated: 1.7

Since December 2020, the Province has administered 9,460,862 doses of Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Pfizer Pediatric COVID-19 vaccines.

[Alflives]

1 minute ago, -DLC- said:

Over the past 24 hours, B.C. is reporting 2,542 new cases of COVID-19, for a total of 266,710 cases in the province.

There are 27,106 active cases of COVID-19 in the province, and 236,309 people who tested positive have recovered. Of the active cases, 298 individuals are in hospital and 86 are in intensive care. The remaining people are recovering at home in self-isolation.

The new/active cases include:

• 1,458 new cases in Fraser Health
  • Total active cases: 12,729
• 329 new cases in Vancouver Coastal Health
  • Total active cases: 8,274
• 270 new cases in Interior Health
  • Total active cases: 2,250
• 125 new cases in Northern Health
  • Total active cases: 737
• 360 new cases in Island Health
  • Total active cases: 3,113
• no new cases of people who reside outside of Canada
  • Total active cases: three

Since Dec. 31, 2021, four new deaths have been reported, for an overall total of 2,427.

Do we know yet if those patients reported as in hospital and ICU with Covid are there because of Covid or they are there for something else first and happen to have ?Covid?  Doctor Bonnie said she wanted to separate the two.  

[Master Mind]

21 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Interesting that dr. Bonnie announced today we are going to record Covid hospitalizations according to If patients are in hospital because of Covid and separate that from patients in hospital who have Covid, but that’s not why they’re there.  I thought we were doing that already?  And why weren’t we?  That’s a pretty important distinction, no?  

That's something they should have started tracking a lot sooner. The more info we have the better.

[gizmo2337]

Just now, Alflives said:

Do we know yet if those patients reported as in hospital and ICU with Covid are there because of Covid or they are there for something else first and happen to have ?Covid?  Doctor Bonnie said she wanted to separate the two.  

 

Just now, Master Mind said:

That's something they should have started tracking a lot sooner. The more info we have the better.

I expect they will prove to themselves there is high transmission happening in hospitals. Egad!  Perhaps that might convince them to finally implement proper masks and better ventilation. Probably not though. Instead, they will double down and use it to lower the daily case count   Like they are even counting cases properly anyways. 

[-DLC-]

3 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said:

 

I expect they will prove to themselves there is high transmission happening in hospitals. Egad!  Perhaps that might convince them to finally implement proper masks and better ventilation. Probably not though. Instead, they will double down and use it to lower the daily case count   Like they are even counting cases properly anyways. 

There have been nine new health-care facility outbreaks at Surrey Memorial Hospital, The Residence in Mission, Czorny Alzheimer Centre, Hawthorne Lodge (Fraser Health), Joseph & Rosalie Segal Family Health Centre, Fraserview Retirement Community, Lakeview Care Centre (Vancouver Coastal Health), Mount Cartier Court (Interior Health) and Victoria General Hospital (Island Health), for a total of 24 facilities with ongoing outbreaks, including:

• long-term care:
  • The Oxford Senior Care Home, Fort Langley Seniors Community, AgeCare Harmony Court, New Vista Care Centre, Chartwell Langley Gardens, Chartwell Carlton Gardens, Chartwell Crescent Gardens, Guildford Seniors Village, The Residence in Mission, Czorny Alzheimer Centre, Hawthorne Lodge (Fraser Health);
  • Kopernik Lodge, Fraserview Retirement Community, Lakeview Care Centre (Vancouver Coastal Health);
  • Ridgeview Lodge, Mount Cartier Court (Interior Health); and
  • Amica Douglas House (Island Health)
• acute care:
  • Mission Memorial Hospital, Surrey Memorial Hospital (Fraser Health);
  • Lions Gate Hospital, Joseph & Rosalie Segal Family Health Centre (Vancouver Coastal Health); and
  • Victoria General Hospital (Island Health)
• assisted or independent living:
  • The Waverly Seniors Village (Fraser Health)
• mental health and substance use:
  • UBC Hospital - Detwiller Pavillion (Vancouver Coastal Health)

[Alflives]

8 minutes ago, Master Mind said:

That's something they should have started tracking a lot sooner. The more info we have the better.

Maybe this type of new tracking (in hospital) is an indication of Omicron leading us to Covid being endemic?  

[stawns]

2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.30.21268565v1

 

NEW - Canada: New data from Ontario suggests a 3rd mRNA dose ("booster") has a "vaccine effectiveness" of only 37% for Omicron.

 

In 2020, the FDA said they would not accept vaccine efficacy less than 50%. Yet the FDA and CDC advising a "booster" for Omicron, even for children now.

 

ABSTRACT

Background The incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection, including among those who have received 2 doses of COVID-19 vaccines, has increased substantially since Omicron was first identified in the province of Ontario, Canada.

 

Methods Applying the test-negative design to linked provincial data, we estimated vaccine effectiveness against infection (irrespective of symptoms or severity) caused by Omicron or Delta between November 22 and December 19, 2021. We included individuals who had received at least 2 COVID-19 vaccine doses (with at least 1 mRNA vaccine dose for the primary series) and used multivariable logistic regression to estimate the effectiveness of two or three doses by time since the latest dose.

 

Results We included 3,442 Omicron-positive cases, 9,201 Delta-positive cases, and 471,545 test-negative controls. After 2 doses of COVID-19 vaccine, vaccine effectiveness against Delta infection declined steadily over time but recovered to 93% (95%CI, 92-94%) ≥7 days after receiving an mRNA vaccine for the third dose. In contrast, receipt of 2 doses of COVID-19 vaccines was not protective against Omicron. Vaccine effectiveness against Omicron was 37% (95%CI, 19-50%) ≥7 days after receiving an mRNA vaccine for the third dose.

 

Conclusions Two doses of COVID-19 vaccines are unlikely to protect against infection by Omicron. A third dose provides some protection in the immediate term, but substantially less than against Delta. Our results may be confounded by behaviours that we were unable to account for in our analyses. Further research is needed to examine protection against severe outcomes.

 

Who ever said the booster would prevent omicron infection?  No one that I am aware of. But, delta is still out there and it's still very serious

 

[Alflives]

8 minutes ago, stawns said:

Who ever said the booster would prevent omicron infection?  No one that I am aware of. But, delta is still out there and it's still very serious

 

Plus there’s a big difference between infection (there is virus present) and illness (actually enough virus to make a person sick)

 

“The term infection refers to the virus entering and being detectable in your system regardless of whether OR NOT it makes you sick, whereas the term illness refers to the virus entering, being detectable in your system AND making you sick. It it important not to conflate the two.”

 

Chise Twitter

Edited January 5, 2022 by Alflives

[gizmo2337]

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2773128

This isn't new news. Hospital infections in China with the lesser variant was responsible for 44% of covid19 infections. We do these kinds of studies to learn lessons from them and not repeat mistakes. Yet here we are.

[AbbyNux]

3 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2773128

This isn't new news. Hospital infections in China with the lesser variant was responsible for 44% of covid19 infections. We do these kinds of studies to learn lessons from them and not repeat mistakes. Yet here we are.

I don't trust a single thing out of any communist state, especially one way to keen on genocide. 

[stawns]

7 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2773128

This isn't new news. Hospital infections in China with the lesser variant was responsible for 44% of covid19 infections. We do these kinds of studies to learn lessons from them and not repeat mistakes. Yet here we are.

A good start would be less people going to the hospital with covid.  If only there were a simple, inexpensive way to achieve that goal

 

[gizmo2337]

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/73/9/1693/6168040
"Transmission of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) From Asymptomatic and Presymptomatic Individuals in Healthcare Settings Despite Medical Masks and Eye Protection"

This study shows that the surgical masks don't work in the hospital. N95 masks on HCW is the answer, and that's been known for over a year.

[stawns]

4 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said:

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/73/9/1693/6168040
"Transmission of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) From Asymptomatic and Presymptomatic Individuals in Healthcare Settings Despite Medical Masks and Eye Protection"

This study shows that the surgical masks don't work in the hospital. N95 masks on HCW is the answer, and that's been known for over a year.

Dick.Tracey

 

[-DLC-]

China locking down cities with 1,000,000 people for....3 asymptomatic cases.  Did I just hear that correctly on the news?

[JM_]

8 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said:

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/73/9/1693/6168040
"Transmission of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) From Asymptomatic and Presymptomatic Individuals in Healthcare Settings Despite Medical Masks and Eye Protection"

This study shows that the surgical masks don't work in the hospital. N95 masks on HCW is the answer, and that's been known for over a year.

are you suggesting N95s aren't used in Canadian hospitals?

[gizmo2337]

Just now, -DLC- said:

China locking down cities with 1,000,000 people for....3 asymptomatic cases.  Did I just hear that correctly on the news?

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/in-locked-down-chinese-city-some-complain-food-hard-to-get-1.5726787

It's true, except it's 13 Million in lockdown.