CptCanuck16 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, VforVirtanen said: But many posters on these boards keep calling for the firing of Green early so that they "have time to turn it around", implying the team is only terrible because of the coaching and we would become contenders under a different system. My point is that isn't happening this year. Sadly, I'm hoping the boys have a mediocre shortened season, miss the playoffs, and management parts ways with Green in the off-season. I'm growing tired of watching the same brand of chip and chase hockey with this roster filled with elite offensive talent. Our guys deserve better and Greener has proven that he's a one trick pony. His style may work in the AHL but it has not been working at this level and he seems unable to make any adjustments. He took a shot but its time we move on. Edited January 23, 2021 by CptCanuck16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MystifyNCrucify Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 I like green. Im not sold on brown and baumgartner. Still not sure why they rehired newell brown. Baumgartner was a good ahl defenseman, mediocre in the nhl. I see the same with his coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Provost said: Sure.... if you fire the coach it is because you are terrible. You just make an assistant the interim coach for a couple weeks and the new guy does some Zoom calls to tell his staff about some changes to systems he is looking at so they can prep. If you are switching a coach because of just a two week window that would have stabilized anyways, then that is a bad decision to start with. Green and his staff will dig there own grave - PERHAPS it is just a matter of time unless the team turns this around in the next few games. Good point though, that it is probably early still in this shorten season to be over reacting (?). Edited January 23, 2021 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, 'NucK™ said: Am I missing something.. why couldn't the new coach just arrive two weeks prior to start the quarantine process before the current coach is fired? It's not like you fire a guy before having his replacement ready to go.. Perhaps hire the 'Potential' replacement as a an assistant to really stir the pot; at this point, the team needs a jolt of energy/new voice in the locker room. Edited January 23, 2021 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVasili Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: Perhaps hire the 'Potential' replacement as a an assistant to really stir the pot; at this point, the team needs a jolt of energy/new voice in the locker room. Any coach willing to sign on under those terms is not a coach we want on our team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Just think if Green got fired and one of his assistants like Baumer or Newell Brown had to be the interm coach for 2 weeks. Wouldn’t that be a hoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, VforVirtanen said: Any coach willing to sign on under those terms is not a coach we want on our team. Good point, that is why I said PERHAPS (just brainstorming) and I dont see JB doing something like this anyways. Regardless, the team is playing sloppy with 10% of the season done. I hope to see the rookies play more since this (shorten) season is looking like a regression but who really knows cause they are just a winning streak away from salvaging this season... Edited January 23, 2021 by ShawnAntoski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Toyotasfan said: Just think if Green got fired and one of his assistants like Baumer or Newell Brown had to be the interm coach for 2 weeks. Wouldn’t that be a hoot. That would indicate the team is using this shorten season to regroup for next when some of the anchor contracts are gone. Kent Johnson would be a nice add - hoping to finally get our first ever 1st OA pick or trade it for assets. Imo, one of the best way to run a team to ground would be to hire a coach that is not ready or have no business being in that position. Edited January 23, 2021 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky mitts Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Green is just the fall guy for Bennings ineptitude. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 11 hours ago, ShawnAntoski said: That would indicate the team is using this shorten season to regroup for next when some of the anchor contracts are gone. Kent Johnson would be a nice add - hoping to finally get our first ever 1st OA pick or trade it for assets. Imo, one of the best way to run a team to ground would be to hire a coach that is not ready or have no business being in that position. Is Willie Desjardens still available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 I do believe there is a reason why Green has not been given an extension yet, management isn't sure so they're evaluating it this year, the only question is how long will they want to evaluate it for. My gut tells me if Canucks continue to struggle Green could be on a short leash, it all depends on how bad they struggle but obviously if they can turn it around Green will be given the rest of the year to be evaluated more, but if they don't turn it around I do believe a quarantined coach might be brought in to help turn it around if the Canucks keep struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Toyotasfan said: Is Willie Desjardens still available? Would Baumer or Brown as Head Coach suffice for you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 hours ago, ShawnAntoski said: Would Baumer or Brown as Head Coach suffice for you ? It’s funny as I spent a couple years back in the 90’s in Kamloops and took in a lot of Blazer games. After seeing guys like Iginla, Dolan, Baumer play impressive hockey and seeing Baumer on Team Canada ( captain perhaps) I actually thought he was going to be the biggest star in the NHL lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
204CanucksFan Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Time for the entire coaching staff to go. After this game it is clearly a problem with systems as opposed to talent. There have been too many times we have been burned trying the same predictable gamble plays. As well as far too passive in the defensive zone for too many years. Really need to get on the phone to start interviewing guys like Gallant, Boudreau or even Todd Nelson or Dan Bylsma I'd even say someone like John Stevens deserves consideration. At least all those coaches have either won at every lower level or are established, successful, experienced NHL head coaches I was optimistic about Green after he took the Comets to game 6 of the Calder Cup finals but he is clearly no longer the coach for this team. We obviously need a change of perspective from the top all the way down when it comes to coaching staff. PK has been a disaster under Brown and Baumer simply has never impressed me as a D coach and this year is a tire fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I noticed last year that Green was probably over his head coaching an NHL team. He was OK when we didn't have much skill and his style of play was "sufficient". As the team got more talented, his inabilities started to show. Marky made up for his deficiencies, otherwise complaints about him from the fans would have been far worse last year. Now that the team is in a funk, his lack of any kind of adjustment is obvious. His "go to" , as it was last year, is to mix up the lines to see if he could get a different outcome. Thats it. He has no idea how to handle players who are on a hot streak or those that are struggling. He has his "favorites" which breeds animosity among the players and it may explain the teams inability to gel this year. A lot of individual play going on and no cohesiveness. I am wondering why we don't have an "energy line" that can get the team going when we come out flat. How about a shutdown line? His "go to" is play the kids and play them often, period. No strategy, just play them, no matter what. Its maddening to watch as a fan because it is the same old boring strategy that doesn't work. After experiencing a few great coaches over the years on this team, we have struggled with the last 2 who have similar strategies which are not effective. Time for a coach that can take the team to the next step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 6 hours ago, Westcoasting said: It’s funny as I spent a couple years back in the 90’s in Kamloops and took in a lot of Blazer games. After seeing guys like Iginla, Dolan, Baumer play impressive hockey and seeing Baumer on Team Canada ( captain perhaps) I actually thought he was going to be the biggest star in the NHL lol. Baumer was probably headed in that direction but (perhaps) like his coaching career - instead of pushing through - he simply plateud and accepted it (?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetFocht Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Hire the new coach behind the scenes earlier. Have them quarantine and then unleash. Or make an assistant interim but I think the entire staff needs to go. Too much Canuck nepotism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracksuit Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 no point let things happen this year and then Fire Jb and green at seasons end. start fresh for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 14 hours ago, GetFocht said: Hire the new coach behind the scenes earlier. Have them quarantine and then unleash. Or make an assistant interim but I think the entire staff needs to go. Too much Canuck nepotism. Which one of the assistants do you think has earned continued employment, let alone a promotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetFocht Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, King Heffy said: Which one of the assistants do you think has earned continued employment, let alone a promotion? The equipment manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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