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Popular Post DeNiro Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 Bertuzzi - Horvat - Podkolzin **drools That would be a fun line to watch. 6 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 What would be the cost here? Hes an RFA probably looking to get paid 4-5 mil I would think. Capable 20 goal scoring 50 point guy who plays with an edge. Would complement Horvat perfectly and he’s the nephew of a fan favourite. I would do the 2nd and a prospect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, DeNiro said: What would be the cost here? Hes an RFA probably looking to get paid 4-5 mil I would think. Capable 20 goal scoring 50 point guy who plays with an edge. Would complement Horvat perfectly and he’s the nephew of a fan favourite. I would do the 2nd and a prospect. Knowing Steve Yzerman and his shrewd ability to squeeze other GM's he isn't letting Bertuzzi go for that price. He basically got a first, second round pick and a top six forward in Vrana for Mantha. Bertuzzi played a big part of Detriot's first line in 2019-2020 that saw him become their best all around winger on the team. It won't be a cheap price to acquire him. Id expect Yzerman will look to acquire a similar asking price he got for Mantha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) On 7/10/2021 at 12:05 AM, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Yzerman, really doing a full rebuild by selling expensive & young assets (even the young Mantha), while he builds his (own) young core; and saving his cap to add when his core is ready. Ballsy but he is able to sell his plan to the owners & (to a lesser degree) the fans. Something to ponder: if Yzerman, was our GM - would he had traded the Twins to expedite his rebuild ? My guess: Yes. Edited July 11, 2021 by ShawnAntoski 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, DeNiro said: What would be the cost here? Hes an RFA probably looking to get paid 4-5 mil I would think. Capable 20 goal scoring 50 point guy who plays with an edge. Would complement Horvat perfectly and he’s the nephew of a fan favourite. I would do the 2nd and a prospect. I’d be very interested in him as well, although I want to know more about his injury. He missed almost all of the season and apparently had back surgery. Does anybody have any updates on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Knowing Steve Yzerman and his shrewd ability to squeeze other GM's he isn't letting Bertuzzi go for that price. He basically got a first, second round pick and a top six forward in Vrana for Mantha. Bertuzzi played a big part of Detriot's first line in 2019-2020 that saw him become their best all around winger on the team. It won't be a cheap price to acquire him. Id expect Yzerman will look to acquire a similar asking price he got for Mantha. Well they’re not gettin that much. Washington overpaid big time. They can have a couple 2nds and Juolevi then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 25 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Half the league seems interested.... Not getting my hopes up. Would be nice addition for sure though! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Another team can afford to overpay than us. Plus we don't exactly have 4-5 to go handing out. Bert doesn't really fight anymore either, I want someone that'll actually drop em anytime not another Roussel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Just now, Outsiders said: Another team can afford to overpay than us. Plus we don't exactly have 4-5 to go handing out. Bert doesn't really fight anymore either, I want someone that'll actually drop em anytime not another Roussel We wouldn’t be handing out 4-5 mil, he’s a legit top 6 forward that would be great value at that price. He doesn’t need to fight to be effective. He’s a gritty top 6 player that would complement Bo and Podz perfectly. If all he costs is a couple of picks and a prospect you do it. Way better than giving up the 9th for Reinhart. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 The Canucks connection here is that recently promoted Todd Harvey was his junior coach for a couple seasons in Guelph. I would imagine he could tell Benning and co all they need to know. 1 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Just now, DeNiro said: We wouldn’t be handing out 4-5 mil, he’s a legit top 6 forward that would be great value at that price. He doesn’t need to fight to be effective. He’s a gritty top 6 player that would complement Bo and Podz perfectly. If all he costs is a couple of picks and a prospect you do it. Way better than giving up the 9th for Reinhart. If we are paying him 4-5 mil we would be handing out 4-5 mil literally was my point. Also, I like the player I'm just worried the type of game those guys play don't hold up long term. He was injured all this season and we'd have to give him lets say 4.5 on a 4 or 5 year deal. I just don't think giving up a bunch more seconds and Juolevi is a smart choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 This would great, one more skilled pker and he would push Pearson down to the 3rd line to mentor Podz. Miller - Petersson - Boeser Bertuzzi - Horvat - Hoglander Pearson - ???? - Podkolzin Motte - Graovac - MacEwen 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 I think the price would start at a 1st+ but the main thing would be finding a GM that isn't scared by his injury. If health becomes a risk then it could deflate the value quite a bit like it seems to be doing with Eichel. I wouldn't move 9th OA for him but I would consider next year's first. I don't think I'd do much more than that if at all though. Bertuzzi - Pettersson - Boeser Pearson - Horvat Hoglander Roussel - Miller - Podkolzin Motte - Beagle - MacEwan Highmore Ideally another forward could be added do displace Roussel, maybe from a Schmidt trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Outsiders said: If we are paying him 4-5 mil we would be handing out 4-5 mil literally was my point. Also, I like the player I'm just worried the type of game those guys play don't hold up long term. He was injured all this season and we'd have to give him lets say 4.5 on a 4 or 5 year deal. I just don't think giving up a bunch more seconds and Juolevi is a smart choice. How do you propose we upgrade the top 6 then? Its gonna have to come through trade cause we’re not doing it in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post morrissex95 Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: Yzerman, really doing a full rebuild by selling expensive & young assets (even the young Larkin), while he builds his (own) young core; and saving his cap to add when his core is ready. Ballsy but he is able to sell his plan to the owners & (to a lesser) the fan. Something to ponder: if Yzerman, was our GM - would he had traded the Twins ? My guess: Yes. Trade the Twins? We're going to trade $14 Million in cap and some team is going to pay us to take them. How the hell do you expect anyone to PAY to take two older players past their prime for ONE cup run? That's the only way it can be done, we wouldn't be able to trade them to a contending team with an extra year on their deal. How does a contending team accommodate $14 Million USD? What's the GM going to do? Wait for their contracts to expire? Because that's exactly what Benning did and the Sedins were at least top six forwards even in their last season. The only way we would've been able to trade the Twins is to a team with a bunch of cap space and we wouldn't get enough back to make it reasonable at all. Plus the twins were needed to entertain the fans and groom the young players. Think through these ruminations because some of them are silly. Edited July 10, 2021 by morrissex95 1 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) I would offer Lind + OJ + Second Lind is trending the right way despite putting up 0 points in 7 games @ NHL level he'll get another shot, and if anyone knows a thing or two about development paths its Det. If anyone can get the most out of OJ it would be Det plus he would have lots of chances for ice time here. Second is self explanatory. Keep in mind Bertuzzi only played like 9 games this year Edited July 10, 2021 by logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 It doesn't make any sense to give up what it would take to bring in Bertuzzi. We'd have to give up 90A and we need centers and not wingers. Unless we're planning on trade ANOTHER first to bring in a player that will make us a little bit less mediocre is just pointless. We need homegrown talent, we need to keep our pick and forget about this 26-year-old. We need a guy to fill in for injures, Mason McTavish, Simon Edvinsson, Cole Sillinger, William Eklund or Brandt Clarke, not Tyler Bertuzzi, is the way to pave forward. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 minute ago, morrissex95 said: It doesn't make any sense to give up what it would take to bring in Bertuzzi. We'd have to give up 90A and we need centers and not wingers. Unless we're planning on trade ANOTHER first to bring in a player that will make us a little bit less mediocre is just pointless. We need homegrown talent, we need to keep our pick and forget about this 26-year-old. We need a guy to fill in for injures, Mason McTavish, Simon Edvinsson, Cole Sillinger, William Eklund or Brandt Clarke, not Tyler Bertuzzi, is the way to pave forward. You ain't getting 9OA for a guy who played 9 games last year mate 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Just now, logic said: You ain't getting 9OA for a guy who played 9 games last year mate What do you expect the Red Wings to want? What do we have? They'll probably ask for north of what Calgary got for Bennett and probably a little bit less than what the Isles got for Palmieri. That's a haul Vancouver can't afford. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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