Ballisticsports. Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Just now, Gnarcore said: It has been 50 years. It should never be on the family. That is ridiculous. Really? RiDICULUS? The guy is still dead 50 yrs later Murder is not like stealing Maybe you are unable to feel empathy for others pain If someone wanted to hurt you and kill your baby child and scared you for life Who is it to say it is ok to you, he can go on "living" his life while your baby NEVER could and you are troubled by his releasing? This is my opinion, i am sure others agree and disagree, but it is not ridiculous on either side of the debate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, ba;;isticsports said: Really? RiDICULUS? The guy is still dead 50 yrs later Murder is not like stealing Maybe you are unable to feel empathy for others pain If someone wanted to hurt you and kill your baby child and scared you for life Who is it to say it is ok to you, he can go on "living" his life while your baby NEVER could and you are troubled by his releasing? This is my opinion, i am sure others agree and disagree, but it is not ridiculous on either side of the debate This is my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, gurn said: You want justice based on how different people feel pain. I prefer not. Your way means if the family of that degenerate, gang member, drug dealing, scum bag don't care that their boy got offed, the killer gets it easy. But if the family of that nice, boy scout leading, St. John's Ambulance volunteer cares, then the killer gets different justice. no thanks. Thats not what i said at all I said when the killer is deemed parole it should be the hurting families decision if they get released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, ba;;isticsports said: Thats not what i said at all I said when the killer is deemed parole it should be the hurting families decision if they get released Right, so different justice based on how different families feel. Again, no thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 hour ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Sure in theory. In actual practice unfortunately, "money talks, merit walks". Yup. OJ was guilty as hell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted August 28, 2021 Author Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, gurn said: If the guy had murdered some one that wasn't famous; he would have been free 25-35 years ago. Like Mark David Chapman, the guy that killed John Lennon. I don't why that guy is still in jail 40 years when worst killers have been let go. He had no criminal convictions before his crime and has been a model citizen in the past 4 decades. Is he a threat to society when rapists and child sex molesters serve less time than him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, DonLever said: Like Mark David Chapman, the guy that killed John Lennon. I don't why that guy is still in jail 40 years when worst killers have been let go. He had no criminal convictions before his crime and has been a model citizen in the past 4 decades. Is he a threat to society when rapists and child sex molesters serve less time than him. The purpose of prison is supposed to be rehabilitation not punishment. Sirhan has been deemed completely rehabilitated and not a threat to anyone by the board. It's serves society no purpose to continue to imprison him. MDC is no longer a threat to anyone. His jailers just don't want the negative publicity of releasing him. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkNuk Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Gnarcore said: Its been fifty years. He's done his time. It shouldn't matter who the victim is. Murder is murder. Feel the same about hate crimes. Punish the act equally not the reason. I don't know. Sirhan not only killed a man, he changed history. RFK was the peace candidate. Had he won in '68, the Vietnam War might have been over years sooner than it was. How many lives would have been saved if this had happened? Yes, there's a lot of 'if's in there. But this wasn't just 'another' murder. Interesting question, though. Wonder what the California governor is going to decide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddhahoodlum Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 3 hours ago, ba;;isticsports said: That is the sad truth, when people say they have done their time though, have they really? The innocent dead person is not coming back from his time dead, loved ones pains who won't enjoy thinking a murderer is enjoying life, (while the dead is not) and they will always have a huge whole of their life missing forever of pain and sorrow Who decides what is right for other's pain? If releasing a murderer upsets a loved one left behind, why subject THEM to more pain of releasing a murderer? IMO If a board has deemed it ok, it should always be the immediate families final decision, without subjecting them to lengthy hearings So then basically a person could be in prison for literally the rest of their life, no matter the circumstances surrounding the murder? According to that concept Dakota Pratt, who was sentenced to 5 years for killing a home intruder who was stabbing him in the head in the middle of the night, could potentially spend the rest of his life behind bars, if Vincent Bunn's family is sufficiently tearful. Makes no sense. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckster19 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 hour ago, DonLever said: Like Mark David Chapman, the guy that killed John Lennon. I don't why that guy is still in jail 40 years when worst killers have been let go. He had no criminal convictions before his crime and has been a model citizen in the past 4 decades. Is he a threat to society when rapists and child sex molesters serve less time than him. I think it's because a lot of people out there would like to be the one to take him out. Keeping him locked up isn't about protecting society from him, but him from society. Someone could knock him off, a ton of people will call that person a hero and they likely walk after a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, UnkNuk said: I don't know. Sirhan not only killed a man, he changed history. RFK was the peace candidate. Had he won in '68, the Vietnam War might have been over years sooner than it was. How many lives would have been saved if this had happened? Yes, there's a lot of 'if's in there. But this wasn't just 'another' murder. Interesting question, though. Wonder what the California governor is going to decide? Sure it was a massive impact. But conjecture on impact doesnt change that in our system one life shouldnt matter more than any other. Except for Brad Marchand of course.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassbs Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Seems like anyone who introduce change in America gets assassinated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 4 hours ago, gurn said: If the guy had murdered some one that wasn't famous; he would have been free 25-35 years ago. Probably would have agreed to a Manslaughter charge and been out in 15..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, sassbs said: Seems like anyone who introduce change in America gets assassinated. If only.... Spoiler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 He murdered a Kennedy and changed history which has not only affected the lives of the Kennedy family but also the lives of millions of Americans and people around the world. To be fair though he wasn't a lone shooter. The assassination of the Kennedy brothers was done on a much larger scale, with many people and organizations involved. These actual shooters were just the trigger men. The people who actually plotted to assassinate the Kennedy's walked away freely. I would release him and then he should be interrogated to see if he can bring out any new information on the assassination of the Kennedy brothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 10 hours ago, Boudrias said: Didn’t the Kennedy brothers share Marlynn? While there is plenty of evidence of John's philandering there is none indicating Robert indulged in the same behaviour. Only rumour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 5 hours ago, UnkNuk said: I don't know. Sirhan not only killed a man, he changed history. RFK was the peace candidate. Had he won in '68, the Vietnam War might have been over years sooner than it was. How many lives would have been saved if this had happened? Yes, there's a lot of 'if's in there. But this wasn't just 'another' murder. Interesting question, though. Wonder what the California governor is going to decide? It is interesting to note the that Robert Jr does not believe that sirhan killed his father. He is a lawyer and put a lot of research into finding out what actually happened even confronting Sirhan in jail. It is also interesting to note that while not denying he did it,sirhan has no memory of doing so. Another murder or not how long do we keep people in jail for crimes they commit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 It’s Boston (or rather the infamous Jack Edwards), but to steer this thread to hockey: Like, wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 58 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: He murdered a Kennedy and changed history which has not only affected the lives of the Kennedy family but also the lives of millions of Americans and people around the world. To be fair though he wasn't a lone shooter. The assassination of the Kennedy brothers was done on a much larger scale, with many people and organizations involved. These actual shooters were just the trigger men. The people who actually plotted to assassinate the Kennedy's walked away freely. I would release him and then he should be interrogated to see if he can bring out any new information on the assassination of the Kennedy brothers. Haven't you watched Watchmen ? The comedian did it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 12 hours ago, Ilunga said: This guy has spent over 50 years in jail. So has Tex Watson and the Manson reprobates. Time for them to walk, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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