Dazzle Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 5 hours ago, mll said: There's no extra 500K if Rathbone is sent down and recalled. His bonus is a non issue in a demotion/recall because he started the season on the NHL roster. In LTIR, when a bonus eligible player is demoted, his bonus creates a bonus pool. That bonus pool can then be used to cover his own bonus when he is brought back up - the bonus pool simply goes back to zero. I very much appreciate your insights on this. Thank you! I know I'm not the only one who really enjoys reading them, even if there is the odd disagreement! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 What a doozie of a trade this has turned out to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deus.ex.makina Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 with the hindsight even Lammikko for Juolevi, or Juulsen for Juolevi would had work. now Juulsen AND Lammi for Juolevi what a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Lammikko has been brilliant but he works so well with Motte and Highmore when he's in. Lammikko is proving that he can play just as well as Motte too. Many teams don't have 1 guy like Motte and we have 2, maybe 3. Finally we have a decent lock of a 4th line (but ice-time wise they're probably our 3rd line). Even if Juolevi is a regular bottom pairing defenceman, this trade is another minor win for JB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 5 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Lammikko has been brilliant but he works so well with Motte and Highmore when he's in. Lammikko is proving that he can play just as well as Motte too. Many teams don't have 1 guy like Motte and we have 2, maybe 3. Finally we have a decent lock of a 4th line (but ice-time wise they're probably our 3rd line). Even if Juolevi is a regular bottom pairing defenceman, this trade is another minor win for JB. Its nice to have a great 4th line... its been over 10 years since weve seen such a thing. Would be nice to get all 3 locked up moving forward. Motte 1.7 x 3, Lammy 1 x 3, Highmore 1 x 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaramel MacKhiato Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 5 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Lammikko has been brilliant but he works so well with Motte and Highmore when he's in. Lammikko is proving that he can play just as well as Motte too. Many teams don't have 1 guy like Motte and we have 2, maybe 3. Finally we have a decent lock of a 4th line (but ice-time wise they're probably our 3rd line). Even if Juolevi is a regular bottom pairing defenceman, this trade is another minor win for JB. I don't know if you could call it a win when the whole world was wanting Matthew Tkachuk over Juolevi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Top Sven Baercheese said: I don't know if you could call it a win when the whole world was wanting Matthew Tkachuk over Juolevi Tkachuk was never going to o be a Canuck. They didn't even interview him. His attitude problems were not what the team was building at the time. Guy is a hell of a player, but he's a crap dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovalchuk Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Shayster007 said: Tkachuk was never going to o be a Canuck. They didn't even interview him. His attitude problems were not what the team was building at the time. Guy is a hell of a player, but he's a crap dude. That kid is a natural leader just like his brother... Assistant captain at age 20. Joined the league as an 18 year old and has dominated ever since with absolutely zero evidence that he is a crap dude. Not sure where you are getting this from If they didn't interview a kid who was right around where they picked then it's just another failure on the list for Benning and crew. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Shayster007 said: Tkachuk was never going to o be a Canuck. They didn't even interview him. His attitude problems were not what the team was building at the time. Guy is a hell of a player, but he's a crap dude. Yea that's an awesome excuse for not drafting the best player available. If that's true JB should have traded down. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, Top Sven Baercheese said: I don't know if you could call it a win when the whole world was wanting Matthew Tkachuk over Juolevi Yea that's called a series of unfortunate events not a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kovalchuk said: That kid is a natural leader just like his brother... Assistant captain at age 20. Joined the league as an 18 year old and has dominated ever since with absolutely zero evidence that he is a crap dude. Not sure where you are getting this from If they didn't interview a kid who was right around where they picked then it's just another failure on the list for Benning and crew. How many awards, trophies, division titles or cups has he hoisted? Playoff round wins? None? At all? Fancy that. Not so dominant I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chris12345 said: Yea that's an awesome excuse for not drafting the best player available. If that's true JB should have traded down. *That was probably McAvoy FWIW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, aGENT said: *That was probably McAvoy FWIW. Yea I'm a big believer in the bpa. Trade if it doesn't fit. Not saying I had all the foresight but I never liked OJ. I liked Sergachev, Chychrun, and Tkachuk. Edited February 13, 2022 by Chris12345 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovalchuk Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Warhippy said: How many awards, trophies, division titles or cups has he hoisted? Playoff round wins? None? At all? Fancy that. Not so dominant I guess He's +30 with 50 points in 45 games. Probably the best net front player in the league or at least top 3, will fight, instigate and hits. Still just age 24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kovalchuk said: He's +30 with 50 points in 45 games. Probably the best net front player in the league or at least top 3, will fight, instigate and hits. Still just age 24 He also is a locker room cancer with serious character issues. Absolutely gutless coward who no one in their right mind respects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Kovalchuk said: He's +30 with 50 points in 45 games. Probably the best net front player in the league or at least top 3, will fight, instigate and hits. Still just age 24 Yeah it pains me to say it, but he is an unbelievable hockey player. Flames are looking pretty good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovalchuk Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, King Heffy said: He also is a locker room cancer with serious character issues. Absolutely gutless coward who no one in their right mind respects. Imagine sitting behind a keyboard talking like this about someone you know nothing about Now this is where I ask you to provide one tidbit of information proving your claim, and then this is where you don't reply and crawl back into your dark little hole in which you dwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kovalchuk said: Imagine sitting behind a keyboard talking like this about someone you know nothing about Now this is where I ask you to provide one tidbit of information proving your claim, and then this is where you don't reply and crawl back into your dark little hole in which you dwell. Well the fact that he kept cheapshotting Kassian and then turtled when it was time to face the music. Also the tantrum he threw over the Muzzin incident last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Top Sven Baercheese said: I don't know if you could call it a win when the whole world was wanting Matthew Tkachuk over Juolevi People need to get over this, even Brian Burke has said they rated Juolevi, even with Tkachuk. Unfortunately, our management team was lacking in clairvoyance and didn't forsee the extreme injury problems on the horizon with Juolevi. You draft based on what you know has happened, and based on what had happened up to draft day, Juolevi was a solid top 10 player in a deep draft. Now, looking at this trade, home run for us. We turned someone who can't get past his injury issues, into a solid 4C and an intriguing defensive prospect who looks like he is just getting ahead of his own injury issues. Edited February 13, 2022 by VegasCanuck 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovalchuk Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Well the fact that he kept cheapshotting Kassian and then turtled when it was time to face the music. Also the tantrum he threw over the Muzzin incident last year. Lol it's a game dude. Mental warfare. This is like saying Burrows was a locker room cancer because of his antics. Get real 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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