mll Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Canucks Curse said: Speaking of the wild do you think they would trade Calen Addison for hoglander? afdison was drafted by….Alvin No. Addison is ear-marked as Dumba's replacement which could be as early as next season with how ugly their cap looks going forward. There's also no real fit for Höglander. When Guerin took over, the 1st trade call was from Rutherford asking for Zucker. Guerin waited out until Rutherford agreed to also add Addison in the deal. Edited February 23, 2022 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 51 minutes ago, mll said: No. Addison is ear-marked as Dumba's replacement which could be as early as next season with how ugly their cap looks going forward. There's also no real fit for Höglander. When Guerin took over, the 1st trade call was from Rutherford asking for Zucker. Guerin waited out until Rutherford agreed to also add Addison in the deal. I agree, for Hoglander. But if the Wild have any interest in acquiring Boeser, Addison should be a 'must' in the return package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: I agree, for Hoglander. But if the Wild have any interest in acquiring Boeser, Addison should be a 'must' in the return package. The Wild are really unlikely to be interested in Boeser though. They will have to create space in the off-season because their dead cap is going to increase by 8M to reach 13M. Boeser is also not the best fit with how they want to play and how they are set up. Edited February 23, 2022 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Oh geeze JT was just going off in trade proposals all last night on Twitter. It was quite the fights between people asking the moon and people saying he's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Russ said: Oh geeze JT was just going off in trade proposals all last night on Twitter. It was quite the fights between people asking the moon and people saying he's ok. People are stupid. JT is the best player in all these stupid trade rumours, better than Giroux even. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 After listening to David Amber this morning I’m thinking this would be Toronto’s trade proposal does it move the needle? To Toronto: JT Miller To Vancouver Kerfoot Robertson Topi Niemela 2022 1st Round pick decent RHD prospect, Decent forward Prospect, a 3rd line Center with a good contract and a first round pick 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: After listening to David Amber this morning I’m thinking this would be Toronto’s trade proposal does it move the needle? To Toronto: JT Miller To Vancouver Kerfoot Robertson Topi Niemela 2022 1st Round pick decent RHD prospect, Decent forward Prospect, a 3rd line Center with a good contract and a first round pick No way, that's garbage. The 1st might be good though, as I'm assuming TOR is out in the 1st round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 10 hours ago, Nave said: He'd be pretty sick with Pettersson. Him and Horvat could talk about their London Knights days. Kidding aside. Isn't the reason we might trade Miller because we don't want to give him a huge contract? How is taking in $11M/year achieving that? Not that I think even Toronto would be that stupid, but I'd look at it as dumping cap with Miller. Marner for Miller+Dickinson+Poolman I feel we're stuck with Dickinson and Poolman for the duration of their contracts, so... Miller + Dickinson + Poolman = $10.4M out (Dickinson is paid until 2023-24, Poolman until 2024-25) Marner = $10.9M in (he is paid until 2024-25) If we re-upped Miller at $8.5M, it's basically $8.5M + $2.65M + $2.5M = $13.65M vs $10.9M. Marner is also great on the PK, so that would help a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 43 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: No way, that's garbage. The 1st might be good though, as I'm assuming TOR is out in the 1st round Why would this impact the pick? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 57 minutes ago, HKSR said: Not that I think even Toronto would be that stupid, but I'd look at it as dumping cap with Miller. Marner for Miller+Dickinson+Poolman I feel we're stuck with Dickinson and Poolman for the duration of their contracts, so... Miller + Dickinson + Poolman = $10.4M out (Dickinson is paid until 2023-24, Poolman until 2024-25) Marner = $10.9M in (he is paid until 2024-25) If we re-upped Miller at $8.5M, it's basically $8.5M + $2.65M + $2.5M = $13.65M vs $10.9M. Marner is also great on the PK, so that would help a lot. Except that is three roster players for one roster player. We still have to pay guys for those other two spots. I try to re-sign Miller at $8.5 million x 6 years in the summer before doing any sort of deal like that. Neither of those choices is great though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Provost said: Except that is three roster players for one roster player. We still have to pay guys for those other two spots. I try to re-sign Miller at $8.5 million x 6 years in the summer before doing any sort of deal like that. Neither of those choices is great though. I reckon if Poolman is healthy, he still wouldn't draw into the lineup given how Schenn and Hamonic are playing. He'd be $2.5M on the cap and sitting in the press box. Dickinson is probably not far off from that either. That's $5.15M sitting in the press box and impacting our cap since their replacement players would be on the ice, and hitting the cap as well. They're basically dead cap moving forward if we keep them on the roster. I'd rather use that dead cap than having it sit in the press box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Just now, HKSR said: I reckon if Poolman is healthy, he still wouldn't draw into the lineup given how Schenn and Hamonic are playing. He'd be $2.5M on the cap and sitting in the press box. Dickinson is probably not far off from that either. That's $5.15M sitting in the press box and impacting our cap since their replacement players would be on the ice, and hitting the cap as well. They're basically dead cap moving forward if we keep them on the roster. I'd rather use that dead cap than having it sit in the press box. That is still $2-3 million to replace those roster spots with other players. Even then, I would rather Miller at what he would cost than Marner at what he costs. Toronto signed all those deals assuming that cap inflation would make them cheaper over the long run. That isn’t going to happen, so those deals are not aging well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Friedman is talking about TOR wanting Miller and Schenn Who would TOR have that VAN could use? Not sure Marner fits, even if TOR picks up some of his salary). The guy disappears in the playoffs. Kerfoot, Dermott, Liligren and 1st? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabychStache Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Friedman is talking about TOR wanting Miller and Schenn Who would TOR have that VAN could use? Not sure Marner fits, even if TOR picks up some of his salary). The guy disappears in the playoffs. Kerfoot, Dermott, Liligren and 1st? That’s just it, they don’t really have what the Canucks need. This rumor stinks of TO media trying to stir up a story. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Friedman is talking about TOR wanting Miller and Schenn Who would TOR have that VAN could use? Not sure Marner fits, even if TOR picks up some of his salary). The guy disappears in the playoffs. Kerfoot, Dermott, Liligren and 1st? Toronto has garbage prospects and overhyped players. No way we ever do a deal with them. But thanks for boosting Millers value! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Toronto has garbage prospects and overhyped players. No way we ever do a deal with them. But thanks for boosting Millers value! Just trying to think realistically, the return for Miller. I'm not a fan of TOR's players, but JR said they want to get younger and faster. Maybe there is no deal to be made with TOR, Friedman just trying to crank up the hype machine for Leafs and Canucks fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screw Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 I’m ok if the TO hype machine talks up Miller. They have nothing Vancouver could use as I see it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Screw said: I’m ok if the TO hype machine talks up Miller. They have nothing Vancouver could use as I see it. This. TO can inquire all they want, we just need them to pump up The bidding war. Let's see, Miller has been tied to the Rangers, Wild, Leafs, Av's, Capitals, anyone else? I'm sure Bruins will have interest and maybe another team out east like the Penguins as I can't see us moving Miller within the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 On 11/22/2021 at 5:35 PM, Podzilla said: https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/canuck-j-t-millers-time-might-be-on-the-line-amid-wild-interest/wcm/c80e3839-b14a-46c1-ae2a-3ecd59d46eed/amp/ Would love to get Fiala. I’d do a 1 for 1. Miller is only going to get worse and his time here is clearly done. It would not be a 1 for 1 trade that is for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, BabychStache said: That’s just it, they don’t really have what the Canucks need. This rumor stinks of TO media trying to stir up a story. Toronto doesn't have good enough prospects or the Dman we would want in return...they make no sense as a trade partner. Edited February 23, 2022 by Harold Drunken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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