WHL rocks Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 36 minutes ago, Angry Goose said: Toews/Kane might be traded this year as well. Doesnt help the JTM market Both have NMCs. I just can't imagine Chicago asking them to waive. Especially Toews. He's not waiving anyways. Can't see it.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Strawbone said: I just polished off a bag of Miss Vickie's Salt and Vinegar chips so this thread hitting 1000 pages is no longer the highlight of my day. Now can we get a trade? Like, anyone? I need new reading material and something to get excited/mad about. Training camp can't come soon enough! I miss hockey. Dang, now I want me some Ms Vickies chips. Not the flavourless / regular kind though. Got to either be S&V, barbecue, or one of them spicy flavours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Westcoastcanucks777 Posted July 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2022 People are now saying it’s Rathbone Demko and Miller for Draisaitl and Campbell 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, WHL rocks said: Both have NMCs. I just can't imagine Chicago asking them to waive. Especially Toews. He's not waiving anyways. Can't see it.. Ya never know. People get shot in Chicago, just for being in Chicago...good reason to leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, justathought said: Ya never know. People get shot in Chicago, just for being in Chicago...good reason to leave The violence is mostly limited to certain areas where people like Toews would have no reason to be. It's a major city so it's never going to be completely safe, but it's a pretty nice city if you're wealthy. You don't see guys not wanting to play in LA due to the gang activity in the hood. Edited July 26, 2022 by King Heffy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, Slegr said: Dang, now I want me some Ms Vickies chips. Not the flavourless / regular kind though. Got to either be S&V, barbecue, or one of them spicy flavours. Jalapeno is my favourite, but... I polished that bag off a couple days ago. Without hockey, I have nothing better to do than eat chips and drink beer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 hours ago, JM_ said: there's too much information now about every player and team to expect that. Even on CDC we know a heck of a lot about where most teams are at. When I listened to JR, I didn't think he was talking about changing everything all at once. He has done a great job imo setting up a competent front office, bringing in a real quality coaching staff, good upgrades and extensions in the F group. I'm kind of surprised people are as disappointed as they seem to be. JR/PA are also not nearly as willing to throw good money after bad and burn picks to dump contracts, which has been a sore spot around here for a long time with Benning. Yes our d needs work but thats the hardest piece to fix, and there's still a lot of offseason to go. I think they have done a good job on the organisational aspects. I reserve judgment on the decisions with the F group. Securing Kuzmenko was great. I am OK with the Boeser extension. I don't really know why we signed Mikheyev - yes I know they want to get bigger and faster - and he is both of those things. But to me we needed a 3C more than another winger, we already had good wing depth with Garland, Boeser, Podkolzin, Pearson, Kuzmenko and Hoglander. Mik also appears to be overpaid at 4.75m (his 3 NHL season point totals have been 23, 17 and 32). Again, let's see how he goes with a bigger role in the top 6. I am hoping to be pleasantly surprised. As you say, still quite a lot of the off season to go, but very little cap space left now, so is going to be difficult to move out cap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Kadri signs with Islanders. I wonder if we could slide Newhook And girard off Avs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Scottydzik said: Kadri signs with Islanders. I wonder if we could slide Newhook And girard off Avs. We will want Newhook but not Girard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 If we just added a couple younger D we would be one of the youngest teams overall. I think we are 9th as it sits overall right now. Good reminder to the forever rebuilders out there, How much lower do we need to go?? Lol 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 hours ago, ilduce39 said: a lot of chatter about the value of wingers around the league and how they’ve lost all value. This comes back to guys like Garland or Pearson. Or even Miller if teams see him as a LW. It’s certainly true right now with teams selling that position to clear space.. but long term I kind of doubt it. As an aside, it’s been a really weird offseason for valuation of players. Tkachuk and Gaudreau are wingers as well. Tkachuk returned a haul and Gaudreau - who is turning 29, has 2 PPG+ years but 2 sub PPG years in his last 4 seasons, is small, and has a career sub PPG in the playoffs, just went for a 7 year 10 mil per deal that people liked. I wouldn’t want him at a 10 x 7. Our own GM just signed Mikhayev for a few K under what Garland makes. Reviews were generally positive. I’d still think Garland is quite a bit more valuable. If their trade value is down, I don’t think wingers are signing for less - how much should Niederreiter make? He’s an older career .5 PPG guy. Maybe more term. Marino, playing the most coveted position for a good price went for a song. Multiple teams, especially our west, could have paid that price pretty easily. Maybe teams just aren’t that high on the player himself. There isn’t much of a pattern to lock on to. A lot of teams are up against the cap - yes - but people are still paying up when they want their guy. My point? Now isn’t the time to rush and move a winger unless we have to. A lot of wings traded for nothing were from teams that had to make space / were upgrading. I think we’re perfectly fine holding right now and re-visiting at the deadline or next offseason - as teams graduate contracts through the flat cap era their value should bounce back. In the meantime, it just takes one team to want a guy for a trade to land. Agreed. If we're going to move Miller, his value is highest at the TDL to a contender trying to win a stanley cup. Makes no sense to move a winger now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: If we just added a couple younger D we would be one of the youngest teams overall. I think we are 9th as it sits overall right now. Good reminder to the forever rebuilders out there, How much lower do we need to go?? Lol A total some point every team needs to push their chips in and hope the young group is able to compete, providing the supporting cast is in place. Are we at that point yet? Would Miller for Pulock put us closer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eeeeergh Posted July 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: If we just added a couple younger D we would be one of the youngest teams overall. I think we are 9th as it sits overall right now. Good reminder to the forever rebuilders out there, How much lower do we need to go?? Lol If we bring on a 12 year old winger, we'd rocket to #1 on that list immediately. Probably could sign one for league minimum too (12 year olds are not great negotiators). Get er done JR/PA! Edited July 26, 2022 by eeeeergh 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, eeeeergh said: Agreed. If we're going to move Miller, his value is highest at the TDL to a contender trying to win a stanley cup. Makes no sense to move a winger now. And if we are in, or fighter for, a playoff spot come the 2023 TDL, will our owner allow a Miller Trade? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Just now, Alflives said: And if we are in, or fighter for, a playoff spot come the 2023 TDL, will our owner allow a Miller Trade? Honestly dont think JR would have taken the job without guarantees of independent decision making. Man is too old to be anyones pet chipmunk. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: And if we are in, or fighter for, a playoff spot come the 2023 TDL, will our owner allow a Miller Trade? Roll the dice, win a cup... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Alflives said: A total some point every team needs to push their chips in and hope the young group is able to compete, providing the supporting cast is in place. Are we at that point yet? Would Miller for Pulock put us closer? At this point I wouldn't mind rolling into the season with what we got and all the boys proving soo soo many wrong. They have the potential to do that, Will they? I just don't know. The lack of consistency from a game to game basis probably has alot to do with personnel... without any subtractions can we truly improve in that area?? Ehhh idk yet Edited July 26, 2022 by Mustard Tiger 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winthecup Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: Agreed. If we're going to move Miller, his value is highest at the TDL to a contender trying to win a stanley cup. Makes no sense to move a winger now. when other teams have injury problems they will also be looking at a replacement going into the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, eeeeergh said: Honestly dont think JR would have taken the job without guarantees of independent decision making. Man is too old to be anyones pet chipmunk. Hope you’re right but our owner has a history of getting his snout into places he shouldn’t. And any trade of a big name player, like Miller, would need his approval. Not about the value of the return, but about just allowing it at that critical time of the season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, Alflives said: We will want Newhook but not Girard. Ya I’m not huge on girard just strikes me as player jt alvin describe they want on there defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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