NucknAsia Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 58 minutes ago, dougieL said: Miller and a first for Chytil? That sounds like a JB move sadly Pass on Chytl, NYR First, and Ludquist Come back and offer Miller and a Van First for Chytl only lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucknAsia Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 38 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Haha no kidding. That deal everyone hates is starting to look like a miss now. Too small a sample set I know but Chytil appears to be arriving. Ya still too early...Chytl is looking great but he's on a streak...let's see how his career ends up over time....being on a heater can distort perception 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, dougieL said: Miller and a first for Chytil? It's almost as if some folks realized he was more than just a throw in 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 57 minutes ago, aGENT said: Kid's realizing his potential. Good for him but it looks like we missed that boat. Naw. We still have a very active and leader Miller. Nothing lost. We also have Pettersson, Hughes, Horvat, Podkolzin and Demko. Nothing lost at all. Teams are allowed to have their own coming out prospect parties too you know… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Gollumpus said: regards, G. it's a twister, it's a twister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 31 minutes ago, Coconuts said: It's almost as if some folks realized he was more than just a throw in yup, no one wanted to listen to reason 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, NucknAsia said: Ya still too early...Chytl is looking great but he's on a streak...let's see how his career ends up over time....being on a heater can distort perception he was a first round pick though, not like this is out of nowhere, the potential was always there 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Haha no kidding. That deal everyone hates is starting to look like a miss now. Too small a sample set I know but Chytil appears to be arriving. not everyone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 5/31/2022 at 11:15 AM, Warhippy said: How do you improve your team when you're up to the cap have no depth, have no assets and even with a near league topping run failed to squeak in to the playoffs? We have a number of players we need to replace. free agency isn't cheap. We have glaring holes that need filling. We don't have the picks or prospects to fill them. So how do we improve? IN fact, how do we improve to beat any of the following right now? This is the reality. Sorry mate, keeping Miller for the $8.5+ million he'll want is NOT viable. I think Dickinson, Sutter and Poolman with get you 7 mill in cap space they don’t need to trade Miller. And I don’t think Miller will get them what they really want. They really want a potential star, like what a #2 Overall pick could do but Miller won’t get that done, they would have to give up Horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, Pure961089 said: I think Dickinson, Sutter and Poolman with get you 7 mill in cap space they don’t need to trade Miller. But who is taking those 3 just because? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Pure961089 said: I think Dickinson, Sutter and Poolman with get you 7 mill in cap space they don’t need to trade Miller. And I don’t think Miller will get them what they really want. They really want a potential star, like what a #2 Overall pick could do but Miller won’t get that done, they would have to give up Horvat. You're not getting the #2 for Bo imo. You bring in Bo as a #2, you trade for Miller as a #1. Not only that but Bo is arguably worth more to the Canucks than what we could get via trade imo. We don't have anyone in the system who can replicate his combination of production and faceoff prowess, and we lean on him hardddd for faceoffs. He was 6th in the league at faceoffs taken last season despite only playing 70 games. It's no coincidence we stumbled down the stretch without him. Edited June 2, 2022 by Coconuts 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 40 minutes ago, Pure961089 said: I think Dickinson, Sutter and Poolman with get you 7 mill in cap space they don’t need to trade Miller. And I don’t think Miller will get them what they really want. They really want a potential star, like what a #2 Overall pick could do but Miller won’t get that done, they would have to give up Horvat. They don't have to use #2 - they have prospects and other picks. Fitzgerald thinks they have too much of the same up front - ie not all prospects are going to be part of the team. Wants some straight line players and heavier skill to have a better mix of players. 5 years ago they made the playoffs with Hall winning the Hart and Hischier in his rookie season. They missed the following year and one of their co-owners Harris or Blitzer noted that they have picks and prospects so there's no reason they can't improve their roster. That off-season they went on to trade multiple picks for Gusev and Subban. They haven't made the playoffs since. It sounded like Fitzgerald bought himself some time - Shero was fired in January 2020 but got to wonder if there's not some pressure to get in. It's 2 seasons that they've pretty much let things just be up front, and as talented as some of their players are, they seem to need some more external help to reach that next step + they don't have the players in house to change the "too much of the same" up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 50 minutes ago, Warhippy said: But who is taking those 3 just because? Nobody thought anyone would take Beagle and Schaler either. We got at least 1 pick from those 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pure961089 said: Nobody thought anyone would take Beagle and Schaler either. We got at least 1 pick from those 2 No picks came back in either of those trades. Schaller was a cap dump in the Toffoli trade and Beagle in the OEL/Garland trade where Vancouver gave up 9th overall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 5/31/2022 at 2:36 PM, rekker said: I just never saw it in OJ, and a previous poster eluded to it as well. I just can't defend the pick. I didn't like it at the time either - though we needed to improve our D and I generally trusted the drafting ability of Benning and Co. I, like many, wanted MT. I felt we needed that aggressiveness if nothing else. Other than that, nobody stuck out to me to be the obvious pick for us. But OJ wasn't it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Warhippy said: But who is taking those 3 just because? Well just go to Proposals and Armchair GMing and you'll see that we have many, many good options for unloading these three! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 13 hours ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Haha no kidding. That deal everyone hates is starting to look like a miss now. Too small a sample set I know but Chytil appears to be arriving. 13 hours ago, aGENT said: Kid's realizing his potential. Good for him but it looks like we missed that boat. Well maybe people can use this to understand trading depleting assets for prospects. Some people wants polished 30 goal prospects but that's unrealistic. These are the next generation of players who are going to be the 'next' Millers. There is always some element of unknown and that's why you're able to trade for them. Oh well. The Chytil has left the building. Hopefully people aren't sleeping next time around. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_19 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Miller + Myers for Marino + Kapanen + Blueger? Podkolzin Pete Boeser Pearson Horvat Garland Hoglander Blueger Kapanen Dickenson Lamikko Highmore Chiasson (re-sign him), Lockwood Hughes Marino OEL Schenn Dermott Poolman Rathbone, Burroughs (or sign Stecher back) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, AK_19 said: Miller + Myers for Marino + Kapanen + Blueger? Podkolzin Pete Boeser Pearson Horvat Garland Hoglander Blueger Kapanen Dickenson Lamikko Highmore Chiasson (re-sign him), Lockwood Hughes Marino OEL Schenn Dermott Poolman Rathbone, Burroughs (or sign Stecher back) Miller + Myers ($1m retained) for Marino, Kapenen, Blomqvist, Poulin and their 1st. Then sign Lyubushkin Hughes, Marino OEL, Lyubushkin Rathbone, Schenn Dermott, Burroughs (Poolman in IR) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_19 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Just now, aGENT said: Miller + Myers ($1m retained) for Marino, Kapenen, Blomqvist, Poulin and their 1st. Then sign Lyubushkin Hughes, Marino OEL, Lyubushkin Rathbone, Schenn Dermott, Burroughs (Poolman in IR) It's certainly a better trade for us (compared to my proposal) but I just don't think the Pens are going to give up that much. Marino hold a lot of value because of his position and great contract. I hope you're right though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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