mll Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: 650 playing a Friedman quote about it’s the Caps and Rags most in on Miller. and yesterday it was NJD per Seravalli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Oh boy! What new shiny baubles will we get? Kakko? Schneider? Kravtsov? as long as its not for a puck sucker scrub busteroo back. The Cap's trade possibilities don't thrill me, but the reality is there may only be 1 or 2 teams willing to pay a lot for him, and re-sign him to a large extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 7 hours ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Bahl is a better fit for sure, but Rathbone is already here. Trading for Bahl means we're forced into moving Rathbone, who has a one way contract, and if the rest of the league has done their homework, they'll know this. Not to mention Rathbone's value is likely only going to raise over the next year or two as he acclimates to the league. We'd be selling low on him. I don't know how much his value is going to raise, playing behind Hughes and OEL... Kind of my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, mll said: and yesterday it was NJD per Seravalli. Come on bidding war! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, JM_ said: as long as its not for a puck sucker scrub busteroo back. The Cap's trade possibilities don't thrill me, but the reality is there may only be 1 or 2 teams willing to pay a lot for him, and re-sign him to a large extension. Alf's been rubbing off on you. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Petey_BOI said: Alf's been rubbing off on you. yeah I nearly spit out my coffee when I read "puck sucker" the other day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, JM_ said: yeah I nearly spit out my coffee when I read "puck sucker" the other day If he was really rubbing off on you that'd have been scotch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, Alflives said: 650 playing a Friedman quote about it’s the Caps and Rags most in on Miller. 21 minutes ago, mll said: and yesterday it was NJD per Seravalli. Rags or Jersey would be preferable They have more interesting assets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 7 hours ago, King Heffy said: That's fair; I'd also want to make a move to shore up the right side, preferably someone like Marino: OEL-Marino Hughes-Schenn Bahl-Myers Dermott That's a group I can live with. Perfect. Myers on the third pair where his size and lower minutes become a plus instead of a liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bishopshodan Posted July 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Miller is a 90+ point power forward, who plays wing and centre. Of course he’s a special player, that hard to find. That’s not the reason for trading him. We would trade him because he’s going to be 30 when his next contract starts. There is a very high chance those aspects of his game that make him special will drop off during the exact time our younger key core guys are leading the group and laying their best. And can we have an aging Miller, who is not providing those things that made him special, eating up our highest cap amount and still be able to support those younger key core guys well enough to compete for a Cup? Yes. I'm in the load up now camp. Go all in. Be a contender in 2 -3 years. Keeping JT is the best way to achieve that imo. I also don't see signs of him slowing down. I think he will be a great durable player going to his mid 30's 48 minutes ago, JM_ said: tbh that would be pretty funny. I think there is a huge chance he stays. 45 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Nobody's saying he can't provide leadership, or that he's not a high quality player, but some of the mythology I've seen built up in relation to him borders on the absurd. Some folks would have you believe he could heal the sick and save souls. I haven't seen that. At all. The respect he gets for leading this squad through thick and thin, he earned. In fact earlier this season some of the great hockey minds on this site were claiming he is not a leader at all...' you don't win with a guy like that,he slams his stick and yells, he's probably a problem in the room' I listen to guys like BB a bit more than some of our CDC fam. https://canucksarmy.com/2022/03/12/boudreau-jt-miller-vancouver-spark-canucks-comeback-washington-capitals/ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, bishopshodan said: Yes. I'm in the load up now camp. Go all in. Be a contender in 2 -3 years. Keeping JT is the best way to achieve that imo. I also don't see signs of him slowing down. I think he will be a great durable player going to his mid 30's I think there is a huge chance he stays. I haven't seen that. At all. The respect he gets for leading this squad through thick and thin, he earned. In fact earlier this season some of the great hockey minds on this site were claiming he is not a leader at all...' you don't win with a guy like that,he slams his stick and yells, he's probably a problem in the room' I listen to guys like BB a bit more than some of our CDC fam. https://canucksarmy.com/2022/03/12/boudreau-jt-miller-vancouver-spark-canucks-comeback-washington-capitals/ I don't believe Rutherford would waste anyones time with a bad offer. Based on what we've seen of this mgmt group so far, I would expect it to be fair, not top top the market money but fair. So I do agree there is a decent chance he's back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, bishopshodan said: Yes. I'm in the load up now camp. Go all in. Be a contender in 2 -3 years. Keeping JT is the best way to achieve that imo. I also don't see signs of him slowing down. I think he will be a great durable player going to his mid 30's I think there is a huge chance he stays. I haven't seen that. At all. The respect he gets for leading this squad through thick and thin, he earned. In fact earlier this season some of the great hockey minds on this site were claiming he is not a leader at all...' you don't win with a guy like that,he slams his stick and yells, he's probably a problem in the room' I listen to guys like BB a bit more than some of our CDC fam. https://canucksarmy.com/2022/03/12/boudreau-jt-miller-vancouver-spark-canucks-comeback-washington-capitals/ Respect that borders on fanaticism for some. Some of them still believe that, and some folks here have a very specific kind of leader in mind when it comes to what they want and anything else is subpar. We saw that a few months back when folks were beginning to turn on Horvat. I still see it when folks dump on Bo as a leader. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 so Friedman said they are looking for a JT miller lite type player. He didn't say that it would be as part of the JT miller type deal. He also said it is a move no one would expect.... Ana is shopping Maxim Comtois who is very miller like..... maybe Comtois for Hoglander? don't think anyone would see that coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, aGENT said: I don't know how much his value is going to raise, playing behind Hughes and OEL... Kind of my point. He can at least prove that he can be an NHL player, even if he's not getting prime minutes. That said, I'd happily move him for D that better fits our lineup, a 3C, or package him with q bad contract or two. Edited July 5, 2022 by 48MPHSlapShot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nicklas Bo Hunter said: so Friedman said they are looking for a JT miller lite type player. He didn't say that it would be as part of the JT miller type deal. He also said it is a move no one would expect.... Ana is shopping Maxim Comtois who is very miller like..... maybe Comtois for Hoglander? don't think anyone would see that coming. what was the context there? like a big move or? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: Respect that borders on fanaticism for some. Some of them still believe that, and some folks here have a very specific kind of leader in mind when it comes to what they want and anything else is subpar. We saw that a few months back when folks were beginning to turn on Horvat. I still see it when folks dump on Bo as a leader. Bo is a great leader. Solid AF. Miller is just different. In fact, I see great leadership in all 3 of our centres in different way. I think EP has a real strong personality and deep down grit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bishopshodan Posted July 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nicklas Bo Hunter said: so Friedman said they are looking for a JT miller lite type player. He didn't say that it would be as part of the JT miller type deal. He also said it is a move no one would expect.... Ana is shopping Maxim Comtois who is very miller like..... maybe Comtois for Hoglander? don't think anyone would see that coming. Miller Lite is a s**t beer. 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Nicklas Bo Hunter said: so Friedman said they are looking for a JT miller lite type player. He didn't say that it would be as part of the JT miller type deal. He also said it is a move no one would expect.... Ana is shopping Maxim Comtois who is very miller like..... maybe Comtois for Hoglander? don't think anyone would see that coming. or maybe someone like Pearson to bring in some veteran presence to surround/mentor their youth as they rebuild. They moved 3 key vets in Rakell, Manson and Lindholm + Getzlaf retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Alflives said: 15 million for OEL and Hughes is set for five more years. The rest of our D costs will be fluid. How much should we allocate to D? 25-30 million? So that’s 10-15 million for the other 5 guys. Myers at 6 mil has to go, and the sooner the better. We trade for Marino + Then we’ve committed 20 million to three D. We need a younger D man, who is on a second contract earning less than four mil, who can play top four. I think that’s why JR wants Schneider so much. 30mil is too much for the D tbh. That’s 36% of the cap between 6 players while the rest of the team forwards depth defenseman goalies etc avg out to less than 3.6% of the cap each while the defense is making 6% of the cap each. If ur defense is making so much of the cap.. they better damn well be one of the best all round defense in the league that can generate a lot of offence to make up for the lack of money spent on the forwards. I’m going to go out and a limb and say we are prolly bottom 5 in the league in offence from defenseman.. just a quick peek we have only like 15-20 more points from our defense than Arizona and Detroit and that’s with Quinn Hughes.. our defense ain’t great offensively and they ain’t great defensively ideally you’ll have ur 2 big ticket guy.. followed by a mid 4-5mil guy and then hopefully a guy either on elc or a bridge.. there’s no reason to have 4 guys eating up almost 25 mil of the cap.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Bo is a great leader. Solid AF. Miller is just different. In fact, I see great leadership in all 3 of our centres in different way. I think EP has a real strong personality and deep down grit. teams can have multiple leaders of different styles, which imo would be preferable. It means more than one guy can step up on any given night. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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