Diamonds Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, stawns said: from the Av's, I think even a deal without a high pick would still be good of it were Newhook and Barron. That would cover both needs for the Canucks........it'd be nice to get a pick as well, but those are two players who probably step right into significant roles with cost controlled contracts. If they want a 1st as well, they could retain salary on Miller and add Boeser as a pure rental for the Avs If the Avs are in on Miller, they will need to send us a player with some cap to make it work. JT Compher might be a good option, solid middle-six player and 3 days younger than Bo so could work with the developing core. Compher could be a good Tanner Pearson replacement making him expendable as well. Would you do: To Colorado JT Miller To Vancouver Newhook Barron Compher Then a separate trade of Pearson for a 2nd or 3rd round pick this year. Edited January 29, 2022 by Diamonds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 39 minutes ago, Diamonds said: If the Avs are in on Miller, they will need to send us a player with some cap to make it work. JT Compher might be a good option, solid middle-six player and 3 days younger than Bo so could work with the developing core. Compher could be a good Tanner Pearson replacement making him expendable as well. Would you do: To Colorado JT Miller To Vancouver Newhook Barron Compher Then a separate trade of Pearson for a 2nd or 3rd round pick this year. I like JTC, but that might have to have a sweetener, though the AVs are a team who would pay for the Canucks to retain salary I think. I know we all want another first in a JT deal, but I think that might be a deal breaker for a lot of teams unless that's the main piece 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 49 minutes ago, Diamonds said: If the Avs are in on Miller, they will need to send us a player with some cap to make it work. JT Compher might be a good option, solid middle-six player and 3 days younger than Bo so could work with the developing core. Compher could be a good Tanner Pearson replacement making him expendable as well. Would you do: To Colorado JT Miller To Vancouver Newhook Barron Compher Then a separate trade of Pearson for a 2nd or 3rd round pick this year. Also, I would definitely not be on the trade pearson train, especially if Miller goes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Gawdzukes said: https://thehockeywriters.com/maple-leafs-canucks-trade-could-produce-second-half-blockbuster/ I wouldn't give up Boeser for that 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Gawdzukes said: https://thehockeywriters.com/maple-leafs-canucks-trade-could-produce-second-half-blockbuster/ I am assuming someone wearing a Toronto sweater wrote this? Miller is outscoring every one of their forwards and he is doing it at half the cap hit of their “stars”. He isn’t getting traded for a middle six forward and some middling prospects. We are also almost certainly going to ask for a defenceman in return and other potential partners have those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Frozen Water Walker said: My buddy came in the store (he's in the news media) he says the offer on Miller is NYR Lafreniere &1st this year and 2nd next year. Rumor mill says it's Lafreniere for Bo https://www.nhltraderumor.com/are-the-vancouver-canucks-interested-in-a-alexis-lafreniere-trade/ GCG Schneider has to be in the deal or no deal. Laff, Schneider and a 1st for Miller and Schenn 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 hours ago, grandmaster said: Really so a 26th OA pick (Rangers are 6th place right now), an underachieving rookie and a 2nd that probably near 60th overall the following year? Also, Rangers get way better and probably end up much higher in the standings so your picks are garbage. Miller is our top scorer, the MVP of our team, playing solid on the PP and PK, a good hitter, leader on AND off the ice, low cap hit and locked up for another year, etc, etc… Miller gets traded and we miss the playoffs next couple years. AGAIN. We lose that trade. No thanks. The trade suggests Bo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: The trade suggests Bo. No thanks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 9 hours ago, Frozen Water Walker said: My buddy came in the store (he's in the news media) he says the offer on Miller is NYR Lafreniere &1st this year and 2nd next year. Rumor mill says it's Lafreniere for Bo https://www.nhltraderumor.com/are-the-vancouver-canucks-interested-in-a-alexis-lafreniere-trade/ GCG What about Lafrieniere and Kakko. Or is that asking for too much… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, J-23 said: What about Lafrieniere and Kakko. Or is that asking for too much… I'd want 1 but not both. The other piece has to be a D-man Edited January 30, 2022 by filthycanuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 6:59 PM, rekker said: Is Miller worth more than that? I'd say yes. Perhaps the best center at trade deadline in recent years. I fear it's more a market thing. Like having the nicest car at an auction, but the wallets in the audience are only so full. Could always just keep Miller I suppose. One thing for sure, I believe in JR to milk what he can out of a deal. Maybe but great thing is we can afford to retain, making Miller even more enticing to big clubs... JR will definitely milk the situation. Miller is the crown jewel at this trade dead line, and exactly because they don't need to let him go, they can milk the situation... If there is a person, I would expect to know, how to do deals, it would be JR... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 22 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: Lysell's got 32 points in 25 games with the Giants. He was ranked Top 10 in many draft lists, but went later (probably because of his size). He's still a kid, though, and could develop into a Top 6 player, once he fills out. Carlo is a 6'6" 217 R-shot Dman and he's only 25. With this trade the Canucks would get younger and faster, something JR has said they want to do. I guess BOS could add a 2nd? (which the Canucks don't have this year) And bigger I believe they said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Thinking, maybe the Rangers don't want to trade Lafreniere or Kakko, because they're both super high draft picked prospects, but they offer this package instead for JT Miller. RW - Vitali Kravtsov RD - Braden Schneider 1st (2022) Does VAN take it? Edited January 30, 2022 by NUCKER67 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-P Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Thinking, maybe the Rangers don't want to trade Lafreniere or Kakko, because they're both super high draft picked prospects, but they offer this package instead for JT Miller. RW - Vitali Kravtsov RD - Braden Schneider 1st (2022) Does VAN take it? Very interesting thought. Depends a bit on what other offers will be available of course, but my initial thought would be no, we'd need a better piece than Kravtsov (although I haven't watched him enough to have a fully educated view on him), otherwise keeping JT makes more sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EB43 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Thinking, maybe the Rangers don't want to trade Lafreniere or Kakko, because they're both super high draft picked prospects, but they offer this package instead for JT Miller. RW - Vitali Kravtsov RD - Braden Schneider 1st (2022) Does VAN take it? That’s a pretty big gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, J-P said: Very interesting thought. Depends a bit on what other offers will be available of course, but my initial thought would be no, we'd need a better piece than Kravtsov (although I haven't watched him enough to have a fully educated view on him), otherwise keeping JT makes more sense. He's a big boy at 6'3" -200ish, currently playing in the KHL. Picked 9th overall in 2018. This could be an interesting line one day: Podkolzin - Horvat - Kravtsov It sounds like they'd be exhausting to play against Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Thinking, maybe the Rangers don't want to trade Lafreniere or Kakko, because they're both super high draft picked prospects, but they offer this package instead for JT Miller. RW - Vitali Kravtsov RD - Braden Schneider 1st (2022) Does VAN take it? Chytil, Schneider, one of Othman/Barron and a first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screw Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 1:23 PM, Frozen Water Walker said: My buddy came in the store (he's in the news media) he says the offer on Miller is NYR Lafreniere &1st this year and 2nd next year. Rumor mill says it's Lafreniere for Bo https://www.nhltraderumor.com/are-the-vancouver-canucks-interested-in-a-alexis-lafreniere-trade/ GCG NYR adds another blue chip prospect then they they are close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said: Thinking, maybe the Rangers don't want to trade Lafreniere or Kakko, because they're both super high draft picked prospects, but they offer this package instead for JT Miller. RW - Vitali Kravtsov RD - Braden Schneider 1st (2022) Does VAN take it? No to Vitali. Replace someone else, and there might be a chance. Also add in a second, or another prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 28 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: No to Vitali. Replace someone else, and there might be a chance. Also add in a second, or another prospect. Not that long ago Kravstov was considered one of the best players not in the NHL. Still has a ton of upside IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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