PositionOfPower Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: Gillis couldn't even draft NHLers after the first round, and even then he struggled. Benning is gone for a reason,. but it would be insane to replace him with the incompetent moron he replaced. Agree Jensen Gaunce Sauve the mighty Hodgson wow no thanks. If Gilly comes back he will bring back the old scouting group and we will be repeating our horrible drafting. At least JB drafts were able to be Nhlers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 minute ago, BlakeQuinnAndEggs said: I agree there, I think Gillman would be a great GM however. Our amateur scouting dept is still here, only JB and Weisbrod left. Gillis was a cap man with no knowledge of hockey talent. Its like making the Chris Gear guy the gm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 I'm curious about George Laraque he seems very well connected and respected as well as well spoken. He's a great marketer, motivational speaker and overall great human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BlakeQuinnAndEggs said: He added the right pieces to push us over the edge. Lots of things were done behind the scenes to improve culture and desirability to play here. He made the right decisions to re sign the twins to great deals where a lot of rumblings that they would walk. His drafting was poor but he drafted late most of the time and he got us Horvat. Bennings drafting is over rated. Drafting top 5 /top 10 all the time you should have good players. Besides Demko, Boeser, and Hoglander who else is a great late pick? After 8 years a few of those are expected. JB wore out his welcome and I was a supporter for years up until Last season. Gillis fault was creating a goalie controversy and hiring Torts. Anyway I dont want him to be our next GM I just think ya sure JB has acquired a lot of good young pieces but that's expected when you rebuild for 8 years. Way too many mistakes. Losing sucks At least in NHL/AHL Forsling, Gaudette. Jensen, Gaunce where they at Edited December 8, 2021 by PositionOfPower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeQuinnAndEggs Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Just now, PositionOfPower said: Gillis was a cap man with no knowledge of hockey talent. Its like making the Chris Gear guy the gm. He's done very well with the Marlies and Torontos player development. Lots has happened in the last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, King Heffy said: And then Gillis decided he didn't care how badly he handicapped the franchise and traded Luongo, even being stupid enough to retain salary, instead of using the compliance buyout for its intended purpose. And then JB had to clean the sh** Gillis left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, tas said: who do you propose? McPhee rumors are there plus he had past working relationship with Bruce for Caps. Lombardi that made the Kings champions but not sure if he wants to work for Aqua. Theres Futa AGM for Lombardi for the Kings back then. Canucks were interested in him in the past. Edited December 8, 2021 by PositionOfPower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, Gnarcore said: The talk after was he always tried to fleece other teams and got alienated. Not sure how accurate that is. He was an outcast in the GM community. No one wanted to deal with him, refs had bias against us also, rest of Canada hated us. GET SOMEONE NEW stop recycling the past cr*p. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeQuinnAndEggs Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 I have a feeling nothing is going to happen until January at least, lots of time for rumors lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: Looking at Gillis' drafts in VAN, he only had a Top 10 pick twice. Cody Hodgson and Bo Horvat The rest of his 1st rounders were #22, #29 and #26. Not really going to get an amazing player there. Sure, Benning got a good one in Boeser. Gillis never had the high picks Benning had, though. Where did Hogz Gaudette, Gadjovich, Forsling come from then? Hmm Demko too All not first rounders but playing in NHL Edited December 8, 2021 by PositionOfPower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, PositionOfPower said: Where did Hogz Gaudette, Gadjovich, Forsling come from then? Hmm Demko too All not first rounders but playing in NHL Don't forget Boeser. The "no high picks" excuse is lame. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, aGENT said: Don't forget Boeser. The "no high picks" excuse is lame. Yes under Gillis we never found a later 1st round gem or a later round gem no one graduated from the draft to becoming NHLers either for our team or another team. If we want more Jensens Gaunces Sauves Hogdsons Ellingtons please get Gillis. Edited December 8, 2021 by PositionOfPower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureBurrito Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 hour ago, PositionOfPower said: Yes under Gillis we never found a later 1st round gem or a later round gem no one graduated from the draft to becoming NHLers either for our team or another team. If we want more Jensens Gaunces Sauves Hogdsons Ellingtons please get Gillis. I do think if Gillis returns its President or bust, never GM again. I still think it's highly remote % he does return. When you do look at the leaked powerpoint for the Pittsburgh POHO job, shared that he did realize his weakness of drafting and showed a team/assistants to actually manage that player dev/drafting aspect more closely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Deb for President. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Deb for President. ya can't have a prez who falls in love with all the players 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 2 hours ago, BlakeQuinnAndEggs said: I agree there, I think Gillman would be a great GM however. Our amateur scouting dept is still here, only JB and Weisbrod left. well, and Brackett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 3 hours ago, tas said: which of them are beating down the door for the job? Will find out soon enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Gnarcore said: The talk after was he always tried to fleece other teams and got alienated. Not sure how accurate that is. Raymond, Ballard and a 1st 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Has anyone talked about Dean Lombardi being a GM again. I know he works for Flyers but Aquaman should get him and have stan smyl as the POHO. I think Dean Lombardi is the type of GM that can put the finishing touches and he has won 2 cups with Kings already so he does have that pedigree. He is probably the most qualified for our GM job and has the best resume out there when looking at current GMs available 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, NHL97OneTimer said: Benning picks up good players in rounds 2 and up though.....Gillis was a disaster at the draft. I'm a bit forgetful here, but I'm recalling Gilman doing the contract signings, the draft being hopeless and a couple of trades working out. What exactly do people remember Gillis doing that made him a decent GM? Is it that the team was good then and so it's attributed to him and not his predecessor who built most of the team? Serious question. Brought in sleep doctors, Erhoff and an oxygen chamber, and was good at keeping contracts down - and with all that saved money, blew the entire wad in two players that's got bought out, and in today's money would cost over 6 million each.. in Booth and Ballard. Didn't trade many high picks and got a better high pick back for Schneider...a trade many hated at the time but obviously was his one and only golden moment - other then of course the sleep doctors and Erhoff. And if anyone brings up Sundin - it's the most ridiculous contract ever. Edited December 8, 2021 by IBatch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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