Mike Vanderhoek Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Pickly said: Petey and Boeser for Barzal and Dobson. Would ya? Boeser is just starting to find his game here again and Petey's value is extremely low right now. No team would trade for Petey right now due to the ask alone vs how he has been playing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordekai Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 41 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: I have the feeling this is going to be ignored by a lot of people. Also as always drance coming up with fake rumours while everyone says the same as lalji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Shayster007 said: I have nothing of substance to add, this is just my single favorite song of all time so I wanted to say something. One of my favorites too. Rest in peace, Shannon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: Who he hires will, say alot about JR's plan moving forward but his hiring confirms FA's, intention to go all in with this core. Hope we don't see a Gillis 2.0 scenario, if this gamble doesn't pan out and they have to re tool or re build. It sounds like he is going to hire a young guy that he can mentor. "Names like Laurence Gilman, John Ferguson Jr., Chris MacFarland, Scott Mellanby and Kevin Weekes are names that come to mind. Not all of them have been linked to the Canucks, but they are all progressive GMs that would be perfect fits under Rutherford". There is also talk of him mentoring former Canuck players Ryan Johnson, Henrik and Daniel Sedin. Mostly speculation, but it makes some sense given the short term contracts for Boudreau and Rutherford. I'm still in the 'wait and see' mode concerning the Rutherford signing, but like you have said, who he hires; especially the gm, will show what his intentions really are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, higgyfan said: It sounds like he is going to hire a young guy that he can mentor. "Names like Laurence Gilman, John Ferguson Jr., Chris MacFarland, Scott Mellanby and Kevin Weekes are names that come to mind. Not all of them have been linked to the Canucks, but they are all progressive GMs that would be perfect fits under Rutherford". There is also talk of him mentoring former Canuck players Ryan Johnson, Henrik and Daniel Sedin. Mostly speculation, but it makes some sense given the short term contracts for Boudreau and Rutherford. I'm still in the 'wait and see' mode concerning the Rutherford signing, but like you have said, who he hires; especially the gm, will show what his intentions really are. Yeah, I am also just waiting for the next stone to drop As for hiring JR, I am not really keen on it cause he seems to be an impatient person and a quick deep dive on his, history as GM confirm this trait. Imo, he is the right person for this roster cause the core is young & ready to compete; and if the Canucks, were rebuilding, he wouldn't be the right person. Hope Aquaman, will have learn some important lessons, that will remind him of, his very important role as 'stewards' of the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 36 minutes ago, bad alice french said: Guys on Sportsnet 650 today were saying Brock might be first up in the crosshairs. Another indictment on Benning might be this signing in hindsight. That qualifying number is gonna be a huge gut check for management. I've always been a bit unsure about Brock's top end potential but I Love him as a player and teammate. On a side note I'm really noticing how Brock and J.T seem to be really dialled and tight of late. I was wondering if there may have been some bad vibes between those two in the past but it seems during Brock's last two PP goal cellies that they are pumped playing for each other. Kind of leads back into what you're saying about Petey. I hope he feels connected with the rest of the team because loners are always seen as awkward dressing room/team guys (Dougie Hamilton). Just saying. Boudreau did emphasize, in his presser that one of his main talent is how he reads a room. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeback_Kings Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Canucks playing aggressive and fast hockey under coach B and still managing to play with skill, it's like the skill can work even better at high speeds. Petey has been flying out there, looking really good, the points will start coming soon for EP40. I like his line with Garland and Podz. Dickenson on Horvat's wing looks promising. As for Rutherford. We'll see what he does. I like most of the players on our JB built team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Luck Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, mll said: How long until we see who the replacements are? Two hours? Gilman incoming? Edited December 10, 2021 by Canuck Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax- Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 49 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: Boeser is just starting to find his game here again and Petey's value is extremely low right now. No team would trade for Petey right now due to the ask alone vs how he has been playing. No team? i doubt that very much imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, ShawnAntoski said: I don't really remember any player endorsing Green cause I am still wondering what was the justification for re-signing a coach with such a mediocre record. As for Horvat, if he ever did such a stunt: I am not sure, what compelled him to do so ? Anyways, it was fairly obvious (from my POV), that most of the players had grown tired of his antics. Completely agree. With many of the players visibly disgruntled this year, I sheepishly started to believe the media when they started spouting the B.S. about locker room conflict, Hovat and Miller etc. When really the issue was players had mentally tuned out coaching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_of_94 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, Canuck Luck said: How long until we see who the replacements are? Two hours? Gilman incoming? I suspect Botterill will be involved, I think as assistant GM/capologist. I have a weird feeling that Mellanby, Futa or MacFarland will be the new GM. If Botterill is hired as GM, then I have no idea who the assistant will be. I didn’t like Botterill as a GM, but he’s got some of the most experience in that role out of the names being mentioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, mll said: Interesting, since this almost certainly means that the team will be hiring a lawyer and an analytics/data expert, to replace Gear and Wall, respectively. Doesn’t necessarily hint at the profile of the next GM, as new hires could replace Gear and Wall at their vacated positions, but it certainly “clears the decks” for a certain type of GM to come in (and one that I would welcome). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, mll said: Stfu iMac. Rutherford doesn't even have a week in and iMac throws shade at him. What was happening wasn't working here. Why shouldn't he change everything. Did he just expect to stay the course of perennial ass? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Something that was mentioned today was that the players had said that they weren't sure what Shaw's job was. So Green didn't seem to put him to use. The other thing that I heard was to do with how the Canucks used analytics. There is a lot of teams using analytics for player deployment and some of the things that Green was doing was old school. Other teams were destroying them because of it. So it seems .Then there is their poor line changes. Other teams were using that to their advantage. We might see some new analytics people come in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: I have the feeling this is going to be ignored by a lot of people. &^@# iMac and drance. Useless turds like these are the reason for turmoil in this franchise. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 What I wanted from the team was to tear down the structure, hire an experienced POHO and rebuild the organization from ground up. Not sure Rutherford is who I would have chosen but he sure seems to have trained a lot of the GMs around the league and knows what Hockey Ops should look like. Can't quibble about the details I guess. Got the coach I favoured so this feels like an overall success and will be very interested to see who else comes in. Still would love to see some diversity but when you are looking for experience in hockey there isn't any. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_of_94 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, 73 Percent said: &^@# iMac and drance. Useless turds like these are the reason for turmoil in this franchise. iMac is awful. I don’t know why people give him any respect. He’s the one who was writing stories in the province about things he heard in the dressing room. Anyone who has played ANY level of serious hockey knows that rule #1, is you don’t talk about what happens in a dressing room, outside of the room. Always thought iMac was a snivelling little rat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Luck Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: Stfu iMac. Rutherford doesn't even have a week in and iMac throws shade at him. What was happening wasn't working here. Why shouldn't he change everything. Did he just expect to stay the course of perennial ass? Seems like you comprehended that release from iMac way differently than I did. I see absolutely no "shade" being thrown anywhere. iMac is purely speculating that the two newest firings were from aquaman and not JR. Just my thoughts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Canuck Luck Posted December 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Still would love to see some diversity but when you are looking for experience in hockey there isn't any. I could not care less about diversity unless the best person for the job is "diverse". Then it is clear who should be hired. Otherwise, you are just hiring the lesser candidate to appease all the new age woke folk. Edited December 10, 2021 by Canuck Luck 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, JayDangles said: Completely agree. With many of the players visibly disgruntled this year, I sheepishly started to believe the media when they started spouting the B.S. about locker room conflict, Hovat and Miller etc. When really the issue was players had mentally tuned out coaching. Yeah, I remember how cringey, those interviews and the responses were to dispel the notion, of a locker room rift. Guess, the stunt didn't work cause there play on the ice contradicted those interviews. Funny thing: that was only a few weeks ago and they never really pressed, Miller, EP, Boes & QH about the issue. Edited December 10, 2021 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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