tas Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Alflives said: Miller’s trade value, because of his contract, is its most now. If we are trading him, now is the time. he would be just as valuable in the offseason when teams have a better read on their cap situations and there are 5-10 more teams that think they're in the market for a miller. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Darius Posted January 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2022 I don’t want to see Miller traded just like I didn’t want to see Bure traded, Linden traded and even Kesler traded. I remember the empty feeling I had watching post Bure games .. the gut wrenching feeling probably lasted two seasons. Linden and Bure brought back players that changed the path the team took for decades. Just follow the trade tree of Bertuzzi for instance. Miller could do the same. Here is the crux of the matter. Nobody knows what Miller is truly thinking. Will he want to stay? Maybe, maybe not. As a GM and Business operator the only way to remove that variable out of the situation is to move him for a mountain of assets. it’s like owning a stock that’s at an all time high. 3 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckTruckCanuck Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I would look to trade Bo and Pearson, we’ve got enough leader ship with Miller and OEL and other supporting cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 @-Vintage Canuck- btw I did your John Garrett game and finished with 80 pushups Lots of goalie talk by him, might've missed some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Things to consider when you are trading your best player for picks and prospects: That 1st round pick may not pan out. Lots of 1st round picks don't even make it to the NHL. The prospects may not pan out. Lots of prospects look good and then fizzle out after they play a year or two of NHL hockey. Once your best player is gone he isn't coming back. Ever. You are stuck with that 1st round pick than can bust and a couple of top prospects who may not be any more than serviceable NHL players. Something to think about... This is very true. We can end up with a 3rd liner in return for Miller. Very risky move. The package would have to be very substantial including a young budding star player who has played a year or two in the NHL. A sure fire future top line forward or top pair D.. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromeslab Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Props to Spencer Martin.Im sure we will be hearing more from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge_Case Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, Cromeslab said: Miller could walk as a free agent...hopefully management have a handle on this and make the right decision Well, I’m sure Jimmy B has thought of this …. Oh, wait … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, tas said: he would be just as valuable in the offseason when teams have a better read on their cap situations and there are 5-10 more teams that think they're in the market for a miller. Nope. The team who gets Miller now will have him for two playoffs. He’s on a fabulous contract. Huge value is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: @-Vintage Canuck- btw I did your John Garrett game and finished with 80 pushups Lots of goalie talk by him, might've missed some. I want in on this. What's the John Garrett game.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Darius said: Will he want to stay? Maybe, maybe not. As a GM and Business operator the only way to remove that variable out of the situation is to move him for a mountain of assets. it’s like owning a stock that’s at an all time high. or you talk to him, because you and he are both human beings. building an actual tram is nothing at all like buying and selling stocks, because you're dealing with human beings and relationships. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Things to consider when you are trading your best player for picks and prospects: That 1st round pick may not pan out. Lots of 1st round picks don't even make it to the NHL. The prospects may not pan out. Lots of prospects look good and then fizzle out after they play a year or two of NHL hockey. Once your best player is gone he isn't coming back. Ever. You are stuck with that 1st round pick than can bust and a couple of top prospects who may not be any more than serviceable NHL players. Something to think about... Mentioned that exact thing a week ago... I was torn on the thought of trading Miller... Understand both sides of the equation. Regardless of what happens next, he is a joy to behold, and at this rate you could get just about anything for him.... should they wish to go that way. What age were the Sedins, when they signed their final contract? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hammertime Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, -DLC- said: I feel like you have to allow this team to just "go" for awhile. They're finding chemistry and gelling as a team, let them get some rhythm going. I just really can't take a disruption to "try" to put them in a position to win (later) when they're actually fighting to get there right now. We're always chasing something (different). I hate the trade deadline. So much. So much. You just know new MGMT need to put their stamp on. And I'm very concerned moving Miller/Bo could be a huge error unless the return is staggering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: Nope. The team who gets Miller now will have him for two playoffs. He’s on a fabulous contract. Huge value is now. a team looking for a 2 year rental won't pay as much as a team planning/hoping to sign the guy long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, tas said: he would be just as valuable in the offseason when teams have a better read on their cap situations and there are 5-10 more teams that think they're in the market for a miller. Going to the off-season also allows us to extend him. If the numbers make sense we can sign him to an extension or trade him in summer.. Unless the NYR make us an offer we can't refuse this most likely goes into the off-season. Miller is in his prime right now. He's playing great. But if we sign him to a 7 year big money extension it might come back to bite us in 3 or 4 years. It's a tough decision but moving him might be the best thing for this organization long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 It’s entirely possible to keep the core if cap goes up, shed some dead weight, and players don’t go for max deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I haven’t read all the thread but I have make a few points that may be redundant: 1. Spenser, I came out of nowhere, Martin. What an amazing 3 games from him. I love Demmer, but this guy could be our Roy or Dryden if he keeps it up! 2. To the ‘trade JT crowd’ just go away. He is a gem that will shine brightly for this team for years. 3. The UHM line as I will call it. Uho, Highmore, Motte. Uhm they were awesome, didn’t factor in points, but holly $&!#e were they aggressive in shutdown mode! 4. Amazing high energy game from a team that could be on the rise! Beam me up Scotty! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, WHL rocks said: This is very true. We can end up with a 3rd liner in return for Miller. Very risky move. The package would have to be very substantial including a young budding star player who has played a year or two in the NHL. A sure fire future top line forward or top pair D.. At some point the rebuild stops and you take the next step forward. The key pieces are here at our feet. We are short one LD PK specialist, 3rd pairing dman, and a good 3rd/4th line C that can win draws the we are pretty much complete. Finding those kind of pieces are way easier than trying to replace JT or any other core player. Edited January 28, 2022 by Attila Umbrus 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, tas said: or you talk to him, because you and he are both human beings. building an actual tram is nothing at all like buying and selling stocks, because you're dealing with human beings and relationships. If it’s all about relationships and not business I’m sure you can talk to him so nicely he will take a cheap contact. Gimme a break. The org needs to be strategic and fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Miller Bo Hughes Demko is the core ! make no mistake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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