iceman64 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Simple enough question but the answer? Not so much, Halak has played great in the past BUT at his age do you write him off? Try to get your money's worth OR give Martin another shot to see if he's legit over more than a tiny sample size? Martin seems to be ahead of Mikey D but haven't watched any games in Abby to know for sure BUT at any rate, I think I'd give Martin a shot but that's just me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxNaslundxX Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Halak has a no movement clause. But yeah Martin is obviously better. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 we can't bring martin up unless you are planning on playing with either 0 extra defenseman or 0 extra forward we currently have 13 forward 14 with dickinson injured and 7 defenseman.. if 1 or more guy get injured then we wouldn't even be able to call anyone up if they are not IR eligible.. nor can we send martin down as he's waiver eligible. Martin ain't coming up this year unless Halak magically waives his NMC and a team takes him both unlikely.. so end of discussion 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, iceman64 said: Simple enough question but the answer? Not so much, Halak has played great in the past BUT at his age do you write him off? Try to get your money's worth OR give Martin another shot to see if he's legit over more than a tiny sample size? Martin seems to be ahead of Mikey D but haven't watched any games in Abby to know for sure BUT at any rate, I think I'd give Martin a shot but that's just me. Is it worth bothering at this point? Halak plays every few weeks. His NMC means he stays on the active roster and needing to send either a D or forward to the minors to bring Martin up. Fine at home but could be a problem on the road. Or leave it and let Martin play a lot in Abby rather than mainly sitting on the bench watching games for the rest of the season. Martin is a UFA at the end of the season as well. Do you want to up his value and/or attract competitors to sign him? On the other hand, if the team keeps slipping into the coasting way they played in NJ it doesn't matter much who is in goal. About 5-6 minutes into the game I said to my buddy, they sure aren't playing like they did against the Rangers. I get it was a back to back, but at least start the game playing hard and applying pressure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 55 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: we can't bring martin up unless you are planning on playing with either 0 extra defenseman or 0 extra forward we currently have 13 forward 14 with dickinson injured and 7 defenseman.. if 1 or more guy get injured then we wouldn't even be able to call anyone up if they are not IR eligible.. nor can we send martin down as he's waiver eligible. Martin ain't coming up this year unless Halak magically waives his NMC and a team takes him both unlikely.. so end of discussion Well I should have added IF it was "possible" as a viable choice? Some might argue Mikey plays a great game when he's on but it's sporadic, but hasn't had much of a taste yet of the big show to know but Martin seemed a lot more confident... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Start firing pucks at his head in practice. Maybe he'll quit?! :^) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassbs Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Martin all day. He has a desire to be and stay in the nhl. From his past performances, he’s earned the right !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, sassbs said: Martin all day. He has a desire to be and stay in the nhl. From his past performances, he’s earned the right !! It's his noble right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 It'll probably be Halak until the trade deadline decision happens, after that carrying 12 Fs to bring up Martin is more likely if Halak refuses to waive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Halak, definitely. The question is: Who's crappy, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I dont have faith in Martin (just a gut feeling it wouldn't take much for him to crash) we need to think about drafting goalies. I dont know much about Silovs but the others i dont have faith in. MDP's future is questionable, martin long term isnt the answer. If Demko gets injured we could be screwed. As far as Im concerned we have a backup problem going into next year. If we are out of the playoff race then if there's a way we could give martin a bigger sample of games id be down for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, erkayloomeh said: I dont have faith in Martin (just a gut feeling it wouldn't take much for him to crash) we need to think about drafting goalies. I dont know much about Silovs but the others i dont have faith in. MDP's future is questionable, martin long term isnt the answer. If Demko gets injured we could be screwed. As far as Im concerned we have a backup problem going into next year. If we are out of the playoff race then if there's a way we could give martin a bigger sample of games id be down for that. don't forget tho Martin was a skilled prospect that stumbled when Colorado rushed him. He is a pretty safe bet as a reclamation project under Ian Clark, he's got the size and skill needed now for goalies. Mikey has a big heart, but he's too 'lil for todays game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 58 minutes ago, JM_ said: It'll probably be Halak until the trade deadline decision happens, after that carrying 12 Fs to bring up Martin is more likely if Halak refuses to waive. Most teams should have a guy in their system already on much cheaper contracts that could provide them with the service that Halak is for us right now (including us), I would think you'd have to add someone now for a team just to take him, as his value and a playoff teams faith in him may have dropped too low to move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 44 minutes ago, JM_ said: don't forget tho Martin was a skilled prospect that stumbled when Colorado rushed him. He is a pretty safe bet as a reclamation project under Ian Clark, he's got the size and skill needed now for goalies. Mikey has a big heart, but he's too 'lil for todays game. Your right on mdp like I said with Martin...just a gut feeling. But he does deserve more of a chance to see what he can do. But I would still like to see us keeping our eyes open at the draft for a goalie. It's the most important position. Your screwed if you have a lousy goalie . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, erkayloomeh said: Your right on mdp like I said with Martin...just a gut feeling. But he does deserve more of a chance to see what he can do. But I would still like to see us keeping our eyes open at the draft for a goalie. It's the most important position. Your screwed if you have a lousy goalie . Don't underrate Silovs. He was supposed to start ahead of Mikey but he got Covid as well. 1. Spencer Martin 2. Silovs 3. DiPietro IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Baggins said: Is it worth bothering at this point? Halak plays every few weeks. His NMC means he stays on the active roster and needing to send either a D or forward to the minors to bring Martin up. Fine at home but could be a problem on the road. Or leave it and let Martin play a lot in Abby rather than mainly sitting on the bench watching games for the rest of the season. Martin is a UFA at the end of the season as well. Do you want to up his value and/or attract competitors to sign him? On the other hand, if the team keeps slipping into the coasting way they played in NJ it doesn't matter much who is in goal. About 5-6 minutes into the game I said to my buddy, they sure aren't playing like they did against the Rangers. I get it was a back to back, but at least start the game playing hard and applying pressure. Exactly it literally doesn't matter. No one wants Halak, he has an NMC, he's not going anywhere, and it wouldn't matter if he did. It's a ho-hum thing. Edited March 2, 2022 by Gawdzukes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 52 minutes ago, ba;;isticsports said: Most teams should have a guy in their system already on much cheaper contracts that could provide them with the service that Halak is for us right now (including us), I would think you'd have to add someone now for a team just to take him, as his value and a playoff teams faith in him may have dropped too low to move? we probably do have to add, alt this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 47 minutes ago, erkayloomeh said: Your right on mdp like I said with Martin...just a gut feeling. But he does deserve more of a chance to see what he can do. But I would still like to see us keeping our eyes open at the draft for a goalie. It's the most important position. Your screwed if you have a lousy goalie . oh for sure, I'm all for picking up a goalie in the 2nd round this year if there's a stud out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginator Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 At this point I'd take Martin. I would love to see Halak sent to the A but I think it would destroy any value he has. We need points when Demko sits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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