BureBurrito Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Kyrou for Boeser. Both bad teams, and both underperforming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 hours ago, aqua59 said: That problem has been hanging over this club for a while, I'm sure they'd be gone long ago if they could pull out of these dud contracts. I'm for giving Brock a new chance some where else. There's too many entitled babies on this team. Regardless of Saturday nights out come accompanied with the poor Brock drama the game was a dud. They barely beat Arizona. I saw little in the effort department. This is an average group at best. I saw OEL limping LTIR!! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, sxqhfeh said: Yeah they believe in them so much, they are shopping them and asking their agents to prepare for new teams. I get that Taj needs to be the mouth piece for management in order to keep his connections, but nobody is fooling anybody here. It’s obvious they see the mistakes of the latest off-season and are in damage control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just picture it. Boeser gone Horvat gone Kuzmenko gone Garland Pettersson and Miller will be our only productive forwards. Think Miller gives up on plays now? Just wait until there's literally nobody else to pick it up when he Brett Hulls his way to the bench and he's getting $8 million just because. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Blue Jay 22 said: Yeah they believe in them so much, they are shopping them and asking their agents to prepare for new teams. I get that Taj needs to be the mouth piece for management in order to keep his connections, but nobody is fooling anybody here. It’s obvious they see the mistakes of the latest off-season and are in damage control. Taj has connections...? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Just picture it. Boeser gone Horvat gone Kuzmenko gone Garland Pettersson and Miller will be our only productive forwards. Think Miller gives up on plays now? Just wait until there's literally nobody else to pick it up when he Brett Hulls his way to the bench and he's getting $8 million just because. Using Brett Hull as a verb - fantastic! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, Strawbone said: Using Brett Hull as a verb - fantastic! I don't care about how skilled the guy was, Robataille was twice the player he was. He was as motivated as Kovalev was but had 5 times the entitled attitude. Whenever I see Miller give up on a play I remember watching Hull skate away from a breakaway from the penalty box while in St Louis, because "he doesn't serve penalties" he totally gave up on a play that cost the Blues a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Quote The Vancouver Canucks disrespected Brock Boeser. Did they poison their dressing room, too? Almost scratching Boeser on Hockey Fights Cancer night hurt him and likely offended his teammates. Can the relationship be mended? By Mike McKenna Published - December 5, 2022 Do the Vancouver Canucks have any more bright ideas? There’s still plenty of time left in the 2022-23 NHL season for additional PR nightmares. But trying to healthy scratch forward Brock Boeser on Hockey Fights Cancer night might take the cake. In May of 2022, Duke Boeser, Brock’s father, passed away from cancer at the age of 61. Six months later and the Canucks decided it was time to give Boeser some tough love by sitting him out of a game – on a night that was bound to be extremely emotional for the star forward. But in a twist of events, Vancouver forward Dakota Joshua was deemed unfit to play during the afternoon. So Boeser drew back into the lineup. And fittingly, he scored the game-tying goal midway through the third period. The Canucks won in overtime courtesy of Bo Horvat’s 19th goal of the season. Head coach Bruce Boudreau said afterwards that he’d already chosen to scratch Boeser on Friday, a day in advance of the Canucks matchup Saturday against the Arizona Coyotes. Boudreau also said that he wasn’t aware that it was Hockey Fights Cancer night in Vancouver when he made the decision. I don’t have any reason to doubt Boudreau. He’s never come across as anything other than genuine. I know he likes ice cream and professional wrestling. I like ice cream and professional wrestling. I think Bruce and I would get along just dandy. But this was a bad mistake. A really, really bad mistake. Because typically when a high-profile player like Boeser gets healthy scratched, approval needs to come from management. I spoke with several current and former NHL coaches about this very topic. And all of them agreed: the decision to healthy scratch Boeser would almost certainly not have been Boudreau going it alone. Management had to be in on it. And some even believe there’s a chance management may have called for it. Given how fraught relations have been publicly between Canucks president Jim Rutherford and Boudreau, I guess this whole situation shouldn’t be surprising. Rutherford has lobbed bombs toward Boudreau through the media on several occasions this year. So how on earth could the entire Canucks front office be so tone deaf to Boeser? How could every coach and member of management whiff on this? I find it hard to believe. I’ve been a part of NHL Hockey Fights Cancer nights. Players use special warmup jerseys. They tape their sticks purple and do pictures after the game holding placards of who they’re fighting for. Coaches wear special ties and are often given lapel pins for the evening. Planning takes place in the morning. Hockey Fights Cancer night is no secret. Someone important in the Canucks organization had to be aware that it was happening. Yet somehow the memo wasn’t passed along to Boudreau. Honestly I don’t care if Boeser deserved to sit or not. Not too long ago he was riding a nine-game point streak. But a coach always has the right to not dress a player. If Boeser’s defensive play wasn’t good enough for Boudreau, I understand why the Canucks bench boss would want to send a message. But it was the wrong night. And Boeser’s situation is exactly how you blow up a locker room. Any goodwill towards the Vancouver organization from its own players just went out the window. You see, players know when things are coming. And for Boeser, who’s had cancer at the forefront of his mind now for way longer than any human should have to endure, this was about as big as it gets. Less than six months after the passing of Boeser’s father, the entire Vancouver organization was so dense that no one said ‘wait a minute’ on a night when he was bound to be the focal point. I’m sure it didn’t take long for Boeser’s teammates to realize what happened. And I can guarantee you they were angry. For their friend. And especially for his family. I bet Boudreau was quick to apologize, as he should have. But what about the rest of management? I haven’t heard or seen anything from Rutherford. Or Canucks GM Patrik Allvin. And I can’t say that I’m surprised. Because if Boudreau had gone rogue and caused this entire mess, wouldn’t it be a good excuse for Rutherford to sack him? Now the Canucks have an even bigger problem. According to Sportsnet’s Elliotte Freidman, Boeser and his agent, Ben Hankinson, have been given permission to speak directly to other NHL teams. That tells me one thing: Boeser has had enough of Vancouver. It’s time to move on. After Saturday’s circus, I’d be thinking the exact same thing. What blows me away is how quickly things devolved. Boeser signed his current three-year pact on July 1, 2022. He’s making $6.65 million each year. Yet five months after the pen hit paper, he’s ready to leave. That’s not good for the Canucks organization. Because any time there’s turmoil with a top player, there’s a ripple effect. Think pending UFA Horvat really wants to stick around through a non-rebuild rebuild? I’d be shocked. Especially after seeing what went down Saturday with Boeser. Bottom line is that Vancouver just can’t seem to get it together. And it’s not surprising given the disconnect that seems to exist. Whether on the ice or off, the bad headlines keep coming. And I don’t see an end in sight. https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/the-vancouver-canucks-disrespected-brock-boeser-did-they-poison-their-dressing-room-too/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said: This was obviously an intentional shot at the players from mgmt and placed a galvanized nail in the coffin of whatever identity this club had. Like a civil war breaking out internally. Ridiculous. House always wins though so I sure hope whatever iteration comes forth of this club, that PA/JR show a whole hell of a lot more with their next moves than what they’ve shown so far. Inept to a degree and borderline toxic. Edited December 5, 2022 by RWJC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rackdawg Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, RWJC said: This was obviously an intentional shot at the players from mgmt and placed a galvanized nail in the coffin of whatever identity this club had. Like a civil war breaking out internally. Ridiculous. House always wins though so I sure hope whatever iteration comes forth of this club, that PA/JR show a whole hell of a lot more with their next moves than what they’ve shown so far. Inept to a degree and borderline toxic. Not borderline...it's toxic!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsbutcher Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Bo, Brock, Meyers and Garland will all be gone by or at the deadline im guessing. Picks , RHD and some speed with Grit please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Canucks Curse Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, garthsbutcher said: Bo, Brock, Meyers and Garland will all be gone by or at the deadline im guessing. Picks , RHD and some speed with Grit please. I would prefer miller to go instead of Bo 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rackdawg said: Not borderline...it's toxic!!! Yes and no for me. reasons for no being because: -they have given the players ample time to prove they belong as a cohesive group -they have still spent to cap and brought in additions in some capacity that on paper looked to have strengthen and support this club (mostly on F) -without new mgmt I doubt we see Kuz sign here which could prove a very profitable 1 year investment -depends on what they get for a return and whom they decide to move once the blow up begins -they did what they said they would do; eliminate the country club atmosphere. Toxic approach? To a degree. How many times do we see a young player benched in their own hometown in their first season in NHL? Always. This club is no longer about empathy…it is now business…. to that extent, I don’t consider them toxic yet. Ruthless, definitely though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rackdawg Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, RWJC said: Yes and no for me. reasons for no being because: -they have given the players ample time to prove they belong as a cohesive group -they have still spent to cap and brought in additions in some capacity that on paper looked to have strengthen and support this club (mostly on F) -without new mgmt I doubt we see Kuz sign here which could prove a very profitable 1 year investment -depends on what they get for a return and whom they decide to move once the blow up begins -they did what they said they would do; eliminate the country club atmosphere. Toxic approach? To a degree. How many times do we see a young player benched in their own hometown in their first season in NHL? Always. This club is no longer about empathy…it is now business…. to that extent, I don’t consider them toxic yet. Ruthless, definitely though. I've run everthing threw my thick skull lol and it's toxic in my mind ...something in that dressing room stinks to high heaven..hopefully they sort it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, Rackdawg said: I've run everthing threw my thick skull lol and it's toxic in my mind ...something in that dressing room stinks to high heaven..hopefully they sort it out. The ghost of Luongo’s swamp ass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 47 minutes ago, aGENT said: Taj has connections...? ....to the internet to quote all their favorite podcast hosts on Twitter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: Sorry if the truth hurts. Letting Boeser walk for nothing was never an option. Period. Let’s not act like you haven’t been tossing insults all of yesterday. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Sitting a player at anytime should not poison the dressing room at all.Peiple thinking that should never be a part of sports as you are supposed to be professional. I have seen stuff like this in life and the weak minded are the only one affected as a pro goes about their business always trying to be better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Tyler Bertuzzi for Brock Boeser is that trade possible? And would anyone do that if bertuzzi would sign and would Detroit do it? Bert-Petey-Kuz Miller-Horvat-Mik maybe too many Lefties tho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rackdawg said: I've run everthing threw my thick skull lol and it's toxic in my mind ...something in that dressing room stinks to high heaven..hopefully they sort it out. Other thing I’d say is if the team gets riled up because of this move, and shows some passion in solidarity with their teammate, then that begs the question why aren’t they duplicating said passion on the ice and really chasing wins??? Inherently, this team is such a paradox. Only way to resolve it is to target something tangible at the center of the cluster and open it up… BB6 is the ideal candidate unfortunately 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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