Attila Umbrus Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Alflives said: He’s on his way back to TBay for Cal Foote. My new crystal ball says it’s so. …your new cryball? How many of them have you broken after they don’t work..!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, combover said: @aGENT it makes sense if it’s smith. Craig smith a 3rd and a prospect for schenn. Boston gets cap relief Solid D van gets expiring contract (possibly flip) 3rd pick A prospect then van retains salary on smith and ships him out as a very cheap depth Center for an additional prospect. I think sending Schenn and taking on a cap dump is worth more than a 3rd. Highly dependent on who the prospect is from BOS. Don't think they have many good ones in their system... What about Schenn + VAN 2023 3rd round pick for Smith + BOS 2023 1st round pick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, EastCoastNucks said: Craig Smith? another C? and 33 yr old. yeah ok jedi lol, clearly you don't have a grasp of what's going on. Boston needs to trade him so they can afford to add players. Therefore he will part of a deal to do that. Pretty complicated stuff here. Edited February 22, 2023 by Gawdzukes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BigTramFan said: I think sending Schenn and taking on a cap dump is worth more than a 3rd. Highly dependent on who the prospect is from BOS. Don't think they have many good ones in their system... What about Schenn + VAN 2023 3rd round pick for Smith + BOS 2023 1st round pick Id be good with that but I don’t think Boston would. maybe if we threw in a rathbone type prospect we might get them to go to a their very late first. Edited February 22, 2023 by combover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, BigTramFan said: I think sending Schenn and taking on a cap dump is worth more than a 3rd. Highly dependent on who the prospect is from BOS. Don't think they have many good ones in their system... What about Schenn + VAN 2023 3rd round pick for Smith + BOS 2023 1st round pick Looks like the bruins are getting gavrikov. I think that shuts the door on schenn to the bruins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, coryberg said: Looks like the bruins are getting gavrikov. I think that shuts the door on schenn to the bruins. Not really. Gavrikov is a lefty, Schenn is a righty. Schenn makes less than a mil and could easily fit under their cap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, coryberg said: Looks like the bruins are getting gavrikov. I think that shuts the door on schenn to the bruins. Yeah I would think so too. Still a chance Smith is traded to VAN in order to clear his cap for Gav to join the Bruins though. What's that worth? A late 3rd round pick? Fine by me as long as we have enough cap space to sign Livingstone at the end of the season... (And so then, as per Alf's balls...Schenn for Foote) Edited February 22, 2023 by BigTramFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Not really. Gavrikov is a lefty, Schenn is a righty. Schenn makes less than a mil and could easily fit under their cap Yeah but do they need 11 x NHL Dmen on their roster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: Not really. Gavrikov is a lefty, Schenn is a righty. Schenn makes less than a mil and could easily fit under their cap McAvoy Lindholm Carlo Forbert Gavrikov Grzelcyk Clifton (And Zboril,Reilly,Stralman) That's a lot of Dmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkSave Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 I think it will be Schenn to the Flames. Sutter wants Schenn for their push and pursuit of the SC We get their 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, BigTramFan said: Yeah I would think so too. Still a chance Smith is traded to VAN in order to clear his cap for Gav to join the Bruins though. What's that worth? A late 3rd round pick? Fine by me as long as we have enough cap space to sign Livingstone at the end of the season... (And so then, as per Alf's balls...Schenn for Foote) Would be a ELC contract so no worries about cap hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNucks Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 26 minutes ago, BigTramFan said: Good point. We should only trade for good players, or young ones with lots of potential. Not old ones like Craig Smith. He's almost done with his career. Also thinking it might be a good idea to trade away our bad players like OEL and Myers. Nucks management thinks youre being sarcastic on this.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, coryberg said: McAvoy Lindholm Carlo Forbert Gavrikov Grzelcyk Clifton (And Zboril,Reilly,Stralman) That's a lot of Dmen Schenn would be number 8 on that list. Perfect depth insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, BigTramFan said: Yeah but do they need 11 x NHL Dmen on their roster? No they need 8 and three call ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: Schenn would be number 8 on that list. Perfect depth insurance. Crappy part of that is teams only give 6th round picks for #8's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, coryberg said: Crappy part of that is teams only give 6th round picks for #8's Not when you’re going all in. He’s a number 6 in reality that could play up to your second pair. Boston doesn’t care about 2nd round picks right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Hoping we can trade Schenn and bring him back in free agency. Maybe if we do him a solid like let him pick his destination he’ll be even more inclined to come back on a multi year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastNucks Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 the thing nobody is admitting, Schenn is a top 4 on our team, he is a call up on everyone else. Schenn is worth more to Van than to anyone else 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, coryberg said: Would be a ELC contract so no worries about cap hit If we sign him this season it does matter. Let's say it's a $950k ELC with a $95k signing bonus (max) and $855k salary. Livingstone will get very little actual salary, but the $95k signing bonus is usually the sweetener for these young NCAA players. The signing bonus will be pro rata'ed over the remaining days in the season, so if say 10 days left in the 184 day season, then will be $95k x 184/10 = $1.748m cap hit just for the signing bonus. Add in his $855k salary = $2.6m cap hitting the roster in the last 10 days. Gets worse if its 5 days left in the season, etc. Don't want to use all our space up on bad contracts and miss out on Livingstone. See below... Edited February 22, 2023 by BigTramFan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Coconuts said: To Boston Schenn To Vancouver Smith Reilly 1st 2025 2nd Below how cap hits for in season 1-year ELCs are calculated. Vancouver in LTIR so their cap space can't accrue but are very much interested in Livingstone who can only sign a 1-year deal. Similar calcs to Rafferty - now 950K and 95K signing bonus and 185 day season. Teves signed the same deal but a few weeks earlier so 1.5M cap hit - but no guarantee it can be done early and often the incentive to sign is to burn the ELC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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